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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: IcelandShaman]
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I always carry a Swedish Firesteel for backup/emergency fire.
Ones I have are good for up to 12,000 strikes. One strike produces a small shower of 3,000℃ sparks.
Works when wet too. Indispensable for when the lighter or match fails, or as a complete replacement.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Shroomism]
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wow,

so um basically for starters listen to everything that shroomism has to say.


second, I know some amazing hikes but you probably aren't from California so I can;t really help you.

If you are low on cash and don't want to buy a whole set-up right away, REI rent's some amazing backpacks and sleeping bags, just find a buddy with a backpacking stove or buy your own and you're set.


I buy freezedried food, but if you are a badass like shroomism you will mix your own healthy, filling food and dehydrate it yourself. I have not gotten to that stage yet


but holy shit, in my eye's nothing beats backpacking.

BRING SO MUCH WEED


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: realfuzzhead]
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glad you guys saw this thread, seeing some of you two's posts inspired me to go.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Legend]
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i need to go get a lot of supplies, but money is an issue. Recommendations?


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Legend]
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thrift stores/salvation army. mainly for clothes and who knows what else you might find.
wool/synthetic materials are best. Don't wear cotton.

couple things you don't want to skimp on:

good footwear. good backpack (that fits and carries weight well). good shelter/tent.
Also check our this thread - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9664724


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Shroomism]
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Bring a gallon of water, bug spray and some :jackdaniels:


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Legend]
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legit27 said:
i need to go get a lot of supplies, but money is an issue. Recommendations?


Army Surplus stores, thrift stores, and craigslist.  Also, much of this stuff you will acquire incrementally.  Friends are usually willing to let you borrow much of this stuff as you are acquiring it.  I go to university and am able to rent most of my gear through their outdoor program.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Legend]
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Didn't read all the replies.

All you really need to backpack in favorable weather is the stuff you'd need for hiking (i.e. the ten essentials).

EDIT: Just layer up and use your emergency shelter to sleep.
A sleeping bag (and real tent) will obviously keep you warmer. And depending on the weather (e.g. snow, rain, wind)... they could be necessary. (Always prepare for the worst.)

The first time I backpacked, I used rope to tie all of my stuff (e.g. tent, sleeping bag, bear can) onto a school backpack.
A backpacker's backpack just distributes the weight better for longer / more strenuous hikes.

My point is: If you want to backpack, just get out there, and do it.
Don't let a lack of gear hold you back.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: fbi365]
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This is off topic but I fucking want one of these. http://hennessyhammock.com/  They look cool, but it the only disadvantage is that you cant stand in them like you can a tent to get changed or whatever.  Also, you cant store your gear in them like you can a tent. 

What do you think shroomism?


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: fbi365]
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I like to wear lightweight layers outdoors that overlap if possible. Pretty much all my clothes are from thrift stores except socks and underwear. Silk dress shirts make pretty good windbreakers and weigh very little, often they're 3 or 4 bucks at the thrift stores here. I also like polar fleece vests, good for keeping core body heat but you can unzip it when it gets too hot. Wool is great too but I hate when it shrinks from a laundry accident.

I find one of the biggest causes of fatigue for me is overheating, so it's always nice to be able to regulate within a wide range without taking anything off or putting anything on. Zip off shorts are good for that if it's warmer. If bugs are a big concern I recommend 30% DEET cream over spray, stays on longer and you don't inhale it. Nasty stuff anyway though. Also, if you're going anywhere wet it's always good to have a solid strategy for keeping your feet dry, trench foot is no joke.

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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: psi]
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Buy a water filter, this is a must. I don't think you can rent one. Buy a 40$ backpacking stove that folds up into a container smaller than your fist. Buy a few, good clothes. You dont want to have to be bring a bunch of cheap cloth, rather get a great jacket, a nice longsleeve, nice pants, good socks, great shoes etc.

Man I could probably dig through my mind and pick out all the little things for hours that would of helped if they had been told to me before I went backpacking, but it's part of the learning process. Just make a list, check it 3 times. Eat good food and always bring an extra day's worth of food, and make sure you bring enough!! You will get fucking hungry out there and it is a helpless feeling when you are hungry and out in the sticks, tired as fuck from walking up a mountain with that heavy ass backpack on.

make you you have a water filter

I'm a coffee person, so me and my best backpacking friend always bring 24-25 things of instant coffee. I basically just smoke weed and drink coffee all day when we have arrived to our destination and set up camp.

Make sure you rent a good sleeping bag, getting cold at night while you have nothing else to try and layer with and knowing it's only going to get colder is a VERY shitty feeling..


and man just bring small comforts from home, my favorites are cards, sour path, coffee, blunts, penut butter crackers, and sometimes my small backpackers hookah


have fun man. I live for backpacking


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: fbi365]
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Yeah those hammock tents are fun and all but hell on your back. Just one night and you'll want to sleep on the ground the next.

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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: IcelandShaman]
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What? I don't think you know what you are talking about. Just because that statement is SO FAR from my reality.
I love my fucking hennessy hammock. Best sleep I ever get. I wake up feeling refreshed every time.
I literally sleep better in my hammock then my $1000 bed at home. That is no fucking joke.
I'm the opposite. I sleep in my hammock and then I never want to sleep on the ground again.

Hell on your back???? You must be sleeping in it upside down or some shit.
As for a hennessy hammock, they are designed with a catenary cut and you are supposed to sleep on the diagonal for optimum weight distribution.

I have met hikers who can't sleep on the ground because of fucked up back problems and wake up in terrible excruciating pain.
They sleep in a hammock with no problem whatsoever, and THEY wake up feeling refreshed too with no back pains.
If you sleep in it properly, it relieves all your pressure points and does not put any strain on any particular one area, thus it's GOOD for your back and especially good for people with lower back problems.
I met one guy on the trail like this, who was a diehard backpacker but could no longer sleep in a tent. A hammock was the ONLY way he could get a good nights sleep on the trail.
Hell... this same guy told me the hammock sleeping was so good.. he replaced his bed at home and installed a permanent hennessy and sleeps in one every single night, it's the only way he can sleep good without back pain.

Hammock Sleeping = 10x more comfortable than sleeping on the ground.
Native south americans know this for fact, where sleeping on the ground will usually get you covered in fire ants or deadly spiders or whateverthefuck.
The only "con" is that you have free air moving under you. Thus you need some insulation under you or its probably gonna be colder.

Yeah you can't store your gear in them (who cares, it just goes right under you) and you can't really get changed in them, (well you definitely can but it's annoying).

But as far as comfort? Like sleeping in a goddamn motherfucking cocoon. For sleep in the wilderness... It doesn't get any better as far as I am concerned.
You can take your 20lbs of air mattress and tent. I'll sleep better in my 2lb hammock. 

Also.
- Never have to worry about waking up on cold wet ground. Never sleep on sticks/rocks etc.
- Never wake up in a pool of water because you camped in the wrong spot.
- Never worry about camping on level ground
- Never really worry about creepy crawlies climbing into bed with you

The one and only CON in my mind, is that it generally sleeps colder than a tent, since you have air moving all around you. Which is relatively easily solved. Depending how much you want to spend, you can go the cheap route with some closed cell foam pads, or blow a hundred or two on a fancy "underquilt" (basically a down sleeping bag that attaches to the underside of the hammock) that custom fits your hammock. With something like that you can sleep in a hammock in freezing temps no problem.


Does that answer your questions fbi? Check some of my posts in the Great Outdoors forums..
I've been plugging hennessy hammocks for years. They are the best (IMO), you can't go wrong.
I have an Ultralight Backpacker A-Sym with an extended Silnylon Rainfly. Used to have an Explorer Ultralight but sold it.

The only major consideration for the hammock is the sleeping cold thing. This only applies if temps are dropping below ~40-50F, or there is lots of wind, then you need some kind of insulation IN ADDITION TO your sleeping bag.
In warm weather, this is not even an issue.

Also down sleeping bags are a nono for hammocks since the side your weight is on has no insulation. Learned this the hard way (As is how I learn most things..)


So in conclusion. Hammocks are fucking amazing.
You have to do a little bit more prep / skill to set them up properly (they can be pitched in nine hundred different ways)
You have to think a little bit more about insulation. Can't just plop in it with a sleeping bag like you can with a tent, if it's really cold.
But the payoffs are 10x the quality of sleep then what I get in a tent.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
But as far as comfort? Like sleeping in a goddamn motherfucking cocoon.


Does that answer your questions fbi?


lol :rofl: They look pretty awesome.

Yeah, it definitely does.  Thanks.  I have already saved up $160 for my hammock.  I am looking at the Explorer Ultralight over the Hyperlight just because of my weight.  I weigh about 194 Lbs.  So with me and some of my shit in there it would be close to the weight limit for the Hyperlight which is 200 Lbs. 

Any suggestions between the zipper or the velcro?


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: fbi365] * 1
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ps so stoked about my hammock! only now my girlfriend wants me to go to seattle with her which will set me back some bones. 

Check out where i am going!!!

















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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: fbi365]
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That is gorgeous! Have a great time!


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: bryguy27007]
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I have one of those hammocks too. Best $ ive ever spent..

Also, I have the zipper. I love it. More cocoon like. My friend had the velcro and it weirds me out.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: astrolope]
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shroomism is correct AFAIK, sleeping on the ground on a mat fucking KILLS my back, and every time I go backpacking I end up wishing I brought a hammock.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: fbi365]
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Bring someone with you that knows what's up. But seriously it depends on the situation. Day hike? Weekend? Week or more?
Think water, food, shelter.  Water, have some but have ways of getting it too. Considering water weighs roughly 8 lbs per gallon, water purifiers can really cut weight.
Food: dehydrators and vacuum sealers come in really handy and again, cut weight. Also a way to cook yer food (boil water) is a plus.
Shelter: depending on location and time of year are obvious factors. I have recently switched from tents to hammocks, this is a matter of personal preference.  Remember though a tents components can be split up and divided between you and your friends to better distribute weight.
Comfy shoes/sandals (sand les don't require changes of socks)
Then there's your basic first aid kit, fire starting kit, rescue whistle, knife.
If you're going with friends get together and check out each others gear. No need to bring doubles of some things (two hatchets, frying pans etc.)
I mentioned cutting/watching weight. As you'll find out, there's just some shit you don't need to bring. It's all a matter of how comfortable you wish to be. I'm no minimalist by any means and have no problem carrying a 50 lb pack for 6-8 hours. But that's me. Everyone has their own personal limits. Even if I'm just going for a day hike I bring my full pack just to stay in shape.
It's a good idea to do a trial run with your full pack to see where you stand. If you start getting tired after only 3 hours hiking with your full pack you might wanna rethink things. Better to have this happen on a trial run than out on the trail.
I know I've left some things out, but that's where experience comes in.
Hope this helps.
Happy trails.


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Re: backpacking. tips? [Re: Organism] * 1
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I consider a water purifier a must for even an overnight trip. Dragging out all the water you'll want to drink? Water purifiers are amazing....

Wake up in the morning and fill a cup of freshly filtered ice cold stream water..

so good.



and coffee.


Bring fucking too much coffee.


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