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OfflineBurninJ
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no dikaryon in clone = no friuts?
    #1539750 - 05/11/03 09:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Hey shroomers, this is my first post here!
one quick question/problem:
in order to continue a cake that fruited well for future generations I used some mycelium from the centre of the cake to clone it to a culutre jar that i then used to inocculate several other cakes. But now when I tried to fruit these cakes they refuse to or produce deformed fruits! :frown:
Is it because i happened to use monokaryotic mycelium in the cloning, instead of dikayotic? Should i  have used a fruiting body for cloning instead?
Any ideas, what did i do wrong? Thanks in advance to anyone who replies!     


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Re: no dikaryon in clone = no friuts? [Re: BurninJ]
    #1539759 - 05/11/03 09:34 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Big words.. Bahumbug.. I dont think u can clone from mycelium.. I think its more like picking out teh strongest most agresive mycelium..But im no expert.


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Re: no dikaryon in clone = no friuts? *DELETED* [Re: Legoulash]
    #1539792 - 05/11/03 10:01 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: no dikaryon in clone = no friuts? [Re: poke smot!]
    #1539934 - 05/11/03 11:05 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks magic and poke.
Poke smot, I've figured that much out, what i'm asking is it possible that i used mycelium that was monokaryotic despite using mycelium from a fruiting cake?
Should u always use a fruit to clone?


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Re: no dikaryon in clone = no friuts? [Re: BurninJ]
    #1540425 - 05/12/03 01:33 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I believe that you did a transfer, not a clone.


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Re: no dikaryon in clone = no friuts? [Re: FunkyBudah]
    #1540890 - 05/12/03 04:56 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

It is possible to transfer from mycelium but if the mycelium smaple was too small (like less than a quarter inch chunk) it could have been monokaryotic. If the growth from the mycelium was rhizomorphic or sectored (it should look like the edge of a feather) then the sample was probably not monokaryotic and you have other problems. Monokaryotic growth is tometose (looks like cotton) and does not produce fruits.


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Re: no dikaryon in clone = no friuts? [Re: BurninJ]
    #1541533 - 05/12/03 01:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

if you had a cake of good mycelium, then you automaticly had dikaritotic cells and they never go back to monokarions.

your problem is a manifestation of senesence or contamination. this question belongs in the advanced forum. good question


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