|
 Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
 Zildjian
human
Registered: 09/11/02
Posts: 208
Loc: new zealand
|
 cloning..... over and over and over again 
#1031411 - 11/07/02 04:07 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
OK, if i clone the biggest mushroom from a flush, then grow it up and clone the biggest shroom from that flush and keep doing this for years, would I eventually end up with a seriously massive shroom? kind of like that mendel guy with the peas.
|
 mlv
Stranger
Registered: 07/06/02
Posts: 114
Last seen: 16 years, 10 months
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Zildjian]
#1031423 - 11/07/02 04:19 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
|
zeta
Stranger
Registered: 05/24/02
Posts: 3,972
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: mlv]
#1031430 - 11/07/02 04:25 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
so what's better?
grow, print, grow, print, grow, print, grow print...
or grow, clone, grow, clone, grow, clone, grow, clone...
|
Cow Shit Collector
Patty Poacher
Registered: 02/14/01
Posts: 1,959
Loc: Random Field
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: zeta]
#1031448 - 11/07/02 04:36 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
In reply to:
The reports you hear of continued cloning resulting in mutation are reports from commercial growers. The range of mutation and strain degradation is around 1000 generations before you start seeing it. Think about how long a home cultivator would take to run out 1000 generations. You are not likely to have a problem with strain degradation in your lifetime
to better isolate and 'evolve' or select a strain you would grow, print, clone, grow, print, clone, each time selecting better fruiters and colonizers ect
--------------------
_______________________________________
CSC
Life's a garden, Dig it!
~Joe Dirt
Off Topic Website
|
zeta
Stranger
Registered: 05/24/02
Posts: 3,972
|
|
you can't clone a print!
|
Zildjian
human
Registered: 09/11/02
Posts: 208
Loc: new zealand
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: zeta]
#1031457 - 11/07/02 04:43 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
mlv, thanks for the link.
|
Anno
Experimenter
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,166
Loc: my room
Last seen: 5 days, 2 hours
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Zildjian]
#1031472 - 11/07/02 04:59 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
> kind of like that mendel guy with the peas.
Mendel did selection after sexual propagation.
If you clone it all the time, you don?t have any recombination of genes by sexual means.
|
george castanza
Lord Of The Idiots!
Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 8,759
|
 Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: mlv]
#1031480 - 11/07/02 05:05 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
that link rocks.thax 
--------------------
KRAMER CAKES
  
 
|
Zildjian
human
Registered: 09/11/02
Posts: 208
Loc: new zealand
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Anno]
#1031499 - 11/07/02 05:27 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Anno, I apologise for my lack of knowledge about the asexual? reproduction of fungi, but i was wondering. . .
If i took clones of the biggest shrooms from two seperate prints and put them togeather on a agar plate, would any sort of genetic 'mixing' occur where their mycelia met?
Sorry for asking stupid questions, but my small brain has difficulty comprehending complex theories such as sexual reproduction, more so now since i intially started this post as I electricuited myself with 240V about 10 minutes ago.
|
george castanza
Lord Of The Idiots!
Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 8,759
|
 Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Zildjian]
#1031506 - 11/07/02 05:33 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
you shocked yourself....electricuition is death from electical shock
just being a smartass 
--------------------
KRAMER CAKES
|
Cow Shit Collector
Patty Poacher
Registered: 02/14/01
Posts: 1,959
Loc: Random Field
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Zildjian]
#1031509 - 11/07/02 05:35 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
you could clone the best strain unless you felt you wanted to refine again in which case you'd go back to the print board (pun)
--------------------
_______________________________________
CSC
Life's a garden, Dig it!
~Joe Dirt
Off Topic Website
|
Zildjian
human
Registered: 09/11/02
Posts: 208
Loc: new zealand
|
|
ok, i think i'll do the clone grow print grow clone grow thing, fucking hell that shock was scarey. I think i'm going to be scared of electricity for a while.
|
zeta
Stranger
Registered: 05/24/02
Posts: 3,972
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: george castanza]
#1031528 - 11/07/02 05:49 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
In reply to:
electricuition is death from electical shock
Wow.. I never knew that.
Electrocute = electro + execute
|
zeta
Stranger
Registered: 05/24/02
Posts: 3,972
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Zildjian]
#1031534 - 11/07/02 05:52 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
In reply to:
If i took clones of the biggest shrooms from two seperate prints and put them togeather on a agar plate, would any sort of genetic 'mixing' occur
Spores germinate into monokaryons.. monokaryons mate to form dikaryons.
Mushroom tissue is already composed of dikaryons so no, you couldn't mate two clones.
The only way to mate is if you bring together individual monokaryons. This is pretty hard.. usually achieved by diluting spore solution many times and germinating on agar.
|
Loop_Theorist
addict
Registered: 04/22/02
Posts: 604
Last seen: 17 years, 6 months
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Zildjian]
#1031747 - 11/07/02 08:00 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
240v? you're lucky to be walking around my friend.
-Loop
--------------------
Pack-tight, midnight, ship it to tha coast.
Some take tha plane, you, you on tha boat,
right beside tha money which right beside tha coke
Passin by tha coastgaurd, right under their nose.
To the US-HEY where anyone can getny, MIA all the way to New Your city, you a twenty now....
|
I_Fart_Blue
Stranger
Registered: 06/25/02
Posts: 3,495
Loc: SItting on the Group W Be...
Last seen: 20 years, 3 months
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: Loop_Theorist]
#1032198 - 11/07/02 11:16 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Volts have nothing to do with the matter. I've been shocked by 10000 volts. I was more supprised than anything. It's the amps which will kill you.
--------------------
"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes
|
george castanza
Lord Of The Idiots!
Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 8,759
|
Re: cloning..... over and over and over again [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
#1032531 - 11/07/02 01:05 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
it's the amperage that kills you volts x amps =watts
--------------------
KRAMER CAKES
|
|
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Edit 
Reply 
Fraggin
San
1 2 3 4 all )
FGL
Zedsdeadbaby
eatyualive