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Species that will fruit off of grains?
    #1513523 - 05/01/03 11:30 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

What are some species that will fruit directly off of grains, and grow similarly to cubensis?

I believe Pl. djamor will. That stuff will fruit off of anything. Are other Oyster strains like that?

What about:

Stropharia ruguso-annulata
Coprinus comatus
Agaricus species

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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Taz_Khmer]
    #1513690 - 05/02/03 12:22 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Those will all fruit on grains?

What is the difference between "Casing optional" and "Casing not required"?


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    #1513743 - 05/02/03 12:54 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

species for wich a casing layer is not required will not realy benifit from one, species for wich a casing layer is optional can be fruited without, but would show better results with one.

i verry much doubt that all of those wil fruit from grain, that is merely a figure from TMC showing casing rewquirements for the species covered in the book. it bears no relevance to your question.


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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1514541 - 05/02/03 10:37 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

All the oysters will fruit off grains.

Agaricus bisporus will fruit off grain if cased with an unsterilized casing, but it is tricky.

I fruited shiitake off of a grain based mycobag, so thats another possibility.

Basically, anything that will pin on agar will fruit off of straight grains.


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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Workman]
    #1514884 - 05/02/03 01:04 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the info workman.


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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Workman]
    #1515319 - 05/02/03 03:22 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Workman. Long time, no see !

What about SRA? I'm particularly interested in that species. How does it perform on grain?


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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1515521 - 05/02/03 04:56 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I have been unable to get primordia formation on agar, with my isolates. 2 from spores, and 1 from clone.


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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Raadt]
    #1515594 - 05/02/03 05:37 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

It seems that Oyster species are the closest to cubensis as far as growth parameters. At least on grains and straw. Not sure about poo/compost.


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Re: Species that will fruit off of grains? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1516208 - 05/02/03 10:32 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

SRA should work on grains but it also requires an unsterile casing. It won't be easy and I have never heard of anyone doing it.

I am looking at Agrocybe aegerita as a cubensis substitute. It fruits on malt agar, is tolerant of high CO2 levels, fruits at room temperature and kinda looks like a cube. I am working with a donated culture so I hope it was labeled correctly.


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