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OfflineSuperSpun
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    #1502863 - 04/29/03 01:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Me and my friend are going to amsterdam soon and I was wondering if anyone in here has ever been there. If so, what would be some good sights to see? And what is the average price for mushrooms? And does anyone know the average price for peyote? I know the peyote is very expensive, but I am ready to pay alot.


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: SuperSpun]
    #1503398 - 04/29/03 05:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Been there 4 times now Just got back on friday, lovely and warm when I was there, great. A tip for ya Dont get any joints out of the "Gift Shops" go to a place called the bulldog, look out for it. Oh and enjoy yaself :smile:


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: davejester]
    #1503417 - 04/29/03 06:12 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Peyote is a big rip off inAmsterdam at $15.00 a dried gram and 7 grams is the dose meaning you pay almost over $100.00 for a dose.

There are four hits in a fdried opunce. (Clinical dosages that is.

San Pedro is cheaper and you can legally buy it here in America. Most places which do have cactus for sale charge about 25 to 30 dollars a cactus which is enoght for a ceremonial dosage equal to four to six large fresh buttons of peyote or a quarter dried opunce of buttons.

Amsterdam is chap on the shrooms, !2-15 us dollars a dose, but the peyote is a European rip-off moeny wise.

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Re: Amsterdam [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1503421 - 04/29/03 06:15 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If you are persistent than look for Mila at the Herbal Gardens in Amsterdam

Here is her name and address.he usually has some available.

Tell her Mushroom John Sent you to see her.

Luckilly I traded my shroom books for a dose so it cost me virtually nothing.

Mila
The Botanic Herbalist
Cornelis Troostraat 37
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1503630 - 04/29/03 09:50 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

may 4th = "dodenherdenking" (memorial day for WW2 victims)
may 5th = "bevrijdingsdag" (liberation day), free music festival in the centre of Amsterdam........

shrooms(2,5-3g) = $10-$15

enjoy your trip!


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Annom]
    #1503777 - 04/29/03 11:09 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Shrooms are sold in fresh packages of 30 grams, not 2, 5-3 g as you suggested. HEre is a package of said shrooms. They are not allow to sell dried shrooms any more.

I do know that the head shops, mostly owned by Algerians and other middle eastern peoples such as arabs, hindis and pakastanis might sell some dried shrooms under the counter but the Smart shops all only sell fresh mushrooms. That is the law and many will not break it for fear of losing the whole right in the country to sell the fresh mushrooms.



mj. the tray was 25 guilders ($12.50 U.s.

Now they are !5 Euro Dollars. They contain thirty (30) fresh grams or approx. one ounce fresh.

They also have Copelandia tropicalis (or C. cyanescens) 7 to 10 fresh mushrooms and !5 gram trays of fresh Sclerotia or Philosophers Stones of P. tampanensis.

Alkl the same price. This particular one came from the Kokpeli Smart Shop owned by Veronique and is part of hans van den Hruk's Conscious Dreams Collective which has seven shops in Amsterdam and a few elsewhere in Holland.

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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Annom]
    #1503793 - 04/29/03 11:15 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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may 5th = "bevrijdingsdag" (liberation day), free music festival in the centre of Amsterdam........




also in wageningen! tons of fun :laugh:

MJ I guess you ment 15 in stead of !5 :grin:


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1503805 - 04/29/03 11:23 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

mjshroomer,

Those look yummy.

I996 i remember being in a store in amsterdam that was selling 5 dried grams of cubensis for 25Guilders. And that place was called the mushroom hut or something.

Keep shroomin,
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1503836 - 04/29/03 11:38 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i was in amsterdam last summer and most of the smart shops sold dried shrooms.  i wish i could remember some of the names of the best smart shops - there was one in particular that sold dozens of species and strains ranging from azures to pans to mexicans to ecuadors, all dried, and had shrooms growing right there in the store.  walking away from centraal station, after crossing the last tracks but before you reach the damrak you turn right and go a couple blocks its in that area.  what mj said about the peyote is really true, they sold really young cacti for about 25 euros that you would have to eat four of to feel anything. 

as far as coffeehouses you definately need to get to the dampkring.  buy the smoker's guide to amsterdam in one of the smart shops you'll be glad you did, it shows you where everything is. there's also a coffeehouse right off the damrak, if you're facing away from centraal you go down a street on your right, turning off damrak maybe a hundred or so feet before you would reach the hotel manofa.  there are a bunch of confectionaries on the street , and the coffeehouse is on the left.  they have a volcano vaporizer in there and a really nice microscope that you can look at your bud under.  i'm trying to remember what that place is called - i think it might have been the 420 bar. 

anyway you're going to have a great time, there's so much to do all day and all night (although there aren't any 24 hour convenience stores so if you get really hungry at 5am you may be out of luck).  make sure to ride the trollies all around the city, and visit the different parks.  and of course you'll visit the red light district, it's insane!  go catch a show at Theatre Casa Rosio :smile:

have fun! 


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: the spiral]
    #1503848 - 04/29/03 11:42 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

is there like an intoxication law there? like you can't be trippin or something in public? cos it seems like you couldn't really have a hundred people runnin around the streets trippin


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1503852 - 04/29/03 11:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

is there like an intoxication law there? like you can't be trippin or something in public? cos it seems like you couldn't really have a hundred people runnin around the streets trippin 




no as long as you aren't freaking out and bothering people nobody is going to give you a hard time for tripping.  eat shrooms on a nice day and ride the trains all around the city and explore you'll have a blast :smile: 

oh i forgot to mention - Amsterdam is an insane, bustling city.  If you're spending a reasonable amount of time there you should make sure you take a train to one of the more relaxed towns like Haarlem.  It's only a 25 minute train and it gives you a better idea of what the rest of holland is like :smile:  The people in Haarlem were awesome!


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1503873 - 04/29/03 11:53 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You can also witness the junkies using their heroin and coke in public :smile:
What I mean to say is, you won't go to jail for using small amounts of harddrugs, but you shouldn't.


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1503894 - 04/29/03 12:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ah yes, as you walk the streets dozens of people passing you throughout the day will say the words "Ecstacy, Cocaine" into your ear. Everybody and his brother is pushing ecstacy and coke on the streets, but i'd very much suggest you to avoid these people. just keep walking, dont look at them dont talk to them.


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: the spiral]
    #1503939 - 04/29/03 12:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

so how the hell do you get around and get things in stores and hotels and what not, don't thhey like not speak english there?


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1504280 - 04/29/03 02:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

actually almost everyone speaks english. but if you want to get any respect say hi and thanks and that stuff in dutch http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Dutch.html


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1504311 - 04/29/03 02:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

AS I said above it is now illegal to sell any dried mushrooms in Amsterdam. Doing so can jeopardizze the whole legality of the scene.

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COURT SAYS MAGIC MUSHROOMS MUST BE SOLD FRESH

Friday October 8 7:05 AM ET

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - The Netherlands' liberal drug policy suffered a
minor knock on Thursday when a regional court ruled that drying hallucinoge-
nic magic mushrooms was illegal.

But in the first case to target magic mushrooms, judges did not challenge the
sale or cultivation of fresh mushrooms by more than 200 so-called "smart shops"
across the country.

The court in the southern Dutch city of Den Bosch sentenced four men and one
woman to community service for processing and trading dried magic mushrooms --
less than the one-and-a-half to three-year sentences the prosecutor had sought.

In handing out the lenient sentences, the court cited expert research that showed
the mushrooms posed no significant threat to public health. It also said magic
mushrooms were not addictive and cause only mild hallucinogenic effects.

Under Dutch law, processing native plants into drugs is illegal, but selling or
possessing the plant is not.

Three men were found guilty of producing and trading dried mushrooms, while
another man and his daughter were convicted of growing the mushrooms with
intent to process.

The four men must each perform 240 hours of community service, and the woman
120 hours.

The smart shop in Den Bosch which sold the dried mushrooms must pay a fine of
10,000 guilders, the court ruled.

At least one of the defendants, Hans van den Hurk, owner of the smart shop chain
Conscious Dreams, said he planned to appeal the verdict.

Smart shops sell an assortment of vitamin or herbal products, from energy drinks
such as Red Bull and aphrodisiacs to herbal "ecstasy," a legal substitute designed
to mimic the banned drug MDMA.

The Netherlands has long drawn criticism from other nations for its lenient drug
policy, which tolerates the sale of cannabis in hundreds of coffee shops.
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This is from October 0f 2002. And since then Hans lost his appeal to sell dried shrooms.


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1504330 - 04/29/03 02:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ah, thanks for the good info mj. the last time i was there was last summer, it appears things have changed since then.


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: the spiral]
    #1504401 - 04/29/03 02:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

anyone have any good Ideas for where to stay? myself & a friend are intending to go in july, the flights are dirt cheap but we've drawn a bit of a blank on accomodation at the moment,
not necessarily pauper lodgings but reasonable.


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: metalchimp]
    #1504466 - 04/29/03 02:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i've been in Amsterdam 2 times (1st last summer and the 2nd 3 months ago) and i wanna go again soon!
-Chills & Thrills is a great smartshop 5 minutes from the central stacion and it has offers like you buy 4 doses shrooms and you take 1 extra free. Go check it!
-A GREAT place to stay is the city hostel Vondelpark. It's next to the most beautiful park i have ever seen (the vondelpark) and it's cheap and very clean and friendly! Very good people in there!
-Don't leave from there if you haven't tried copelandia mushrooms!!!!
-If you want dried stuff to bring back to your country,don't worry, dried=illegal but still evey smartshop sells dried!
-Visit the red lights district at night!(there you will find the sex museum and the herb museum)
-Trip with copelandia mushrooms in the vondelpark(the park not the hotel:-p)!!! Believe it will be a trip that you will never forget!

Have fun and if you find there my brain please bring it back for me!!!


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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1504757 - 04/29/03 04:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The average cheap hotle in the red light district are $39.00 a night and up andusually on the top floors, a good 6 to 7 floors off the ground in a thin long winding spial staircase.

The youth hostels are about $200.00 a night for bunk in dorm like rooms. Theire are a lot of rtip-offs at the youth hostel which caters to a lot of european thives.

Avoid doing drug deals on the street. Many algerians and Surinamese like to rip off white tourists from America and elsewhere. Smoke your pot in the coffee houses. buy your pot there.

ASvoid people who asked yo to step over tothe corner to look at what they say they have.

Two friends of mine got ripped off again last year. One two years before by going tolook at some hash near a canal. Four guys out of nowhere pulled a knuife on him took passport and all.

I myself was badly robbed in 1998 in a restaurant for my backpack. Two middle eastern types walked by my table in a restaurant and grabbed my back pack and were out the door and lost int he crowd.

So be careful.

And be careful with people you meet and get high with. Keep[ you bags on you or close all of the time and do not let sitting and wander away asking someone to keep their eyes on your bag.

Things disappear really easy in Amsterdam.

Remember that when you leave the Train depot in Amsterdam, several individuals will approach you about a place to stay. They will walk you to the various hotels nearby and they get a kickback from tyhe hotel operators for bringing people to their establishments.

The rooms are like little closets with a small sink and you share a hallway bathroom.

Enjoy your stay and give us all a report when you return.

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