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OfflineShroomRunner
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Amsterdam weed seemed so weak......
    #5748033 - 06/14/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm just wondering if anyone can help me explain what happened, or if there is any alternative explanation to the "amsterdam weed is weak" explanation as the way it seems to me.

I'm from Vancouver, and usually smoke 5-10 times per week. I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so (which seems very, very littel compared to what most of the people on this baord smoke.

When I take my 2 or 3 tokes, the effect comes on after about 2 minutes, and everything is more intense, more meaningful, and I am full of drive and desire. Music becomes 100x better and songs I never cared for become amazing enough that might listen to them 10 times ina row. I get crazy munchies and eat ridiculous 2000 calorie meals, although usually this comes after 2 hours at the gym, a long run, or some intense tennis, as I use marijuana in comjunction with sports and sprt training mainly. Again that is very atypical.

I travelled in Europe this summer, and made 3 stops in amsterdam during the month of may, the longest stretch being 12 days at the start of the trip.

The first place we went into I asked the guy for some strong stuff, and he sold me Silver Haze. I neveer really noticed any effect from the stuff, except that I seemed to feel tired from it. And in trying to get high from it, I'd smoke 3 or 4 times as much as usual, and in doing so, would feel unhealthy.

After a while I went to a place and just asked the guy for his strongest stuff. He sold us "diesel haze," and while it seemed to have a bit more effect, it was only marginally better. We also bought Nepalese Hash, Ice Hash, and Blueberry Weed (apparently the winner of the 1999 cannabis cup). We also met some guys and smoked white widow mixed with tobacco with them. We were ever in search of a high as good as what we are accustomed to getting in Vancouver.

We never got such a high. Although we did do 7 mushroom trips while over there (columbian, thai, amazonian, hawaiian, and philosophers stones) and all the trips were great. Sometimes we rode bikes around the city all night, one time we walked all night, other times we spent hours in the pool/sauna facilities at our hotel, and on the philosophers stones I went for a 3 hours walk in the Dutch countryside, and then when it got cold I ran for 3 hours, just having the most clear thoughts of my life.

Anyways during that run I realized how annoyed I was with the amsterdam weed and how it just wasn't worth bothering with anymore. I told my friend what I thought of the weed and he was feeling pretty much the same way. So we tossed our pipe, liters and weed/hash in the garbage. That was May 11, and I didn't smoke any weed until June 8th, when I got back to Vancouver.

And back here in Vancouver, it's as good as it was before I left. I had a fantastic holiday, did everything I wanted to do, but I am just flabbergasted by my (and my friend's) response to the weed. It just doesn't make sense. I had not heard such a response from other friends who've been there, and if thats what the weed does (just makes you feel tired) then I wouldn't even bother smoking it if I lived there.

It all seems very bixarre to me. Any possible explanations?


Edited by ShroomRunner (06/14/06 01:24 AM)


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Offlineultramarv
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
    #5748194 - 06/14/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The only explanation is that you smoked some weak herb. It's possible the strains weren't as good as reported, or they were just grown and harvested/cured improperly or poorly (or even that they didn't sell the good stuff to you). Holland produces some incredible strains though; I don't think your experiences quite reflect weed in Amersterdam as a whole (weed sold in shops, on the other hand..).

Your super low tolerance sounds awesome. It's interesting that you couldn't get a good high there.


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ultramarv]
    #5748211 - 06/14/06 01:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It just seems hard to explain it that way since we smoked 6 different types of weed, bought from at least 5 different places. The british guys we smoked the white widow and the blueberry with seemed to think it was good.

The guy said diesel haze was his best so we got that.

A guy in a different place said his nepalese hash was the best so we got that.

And the place that had the ice hash charged like 4 times as much for it as any other stuff they had, and it was no better.

Is it possible that the weed in Vancouver is just very different in some unique way?


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
    #5748232 - 06/14/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Doubtful; THC is THC. It does seem strange that smoking hash wouldn't mess you up when you're used to low doses of weed. Maybe your setting and expections in Vancouver potentiate the effects?


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
    #5748270 - 06/14/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I ran into something very similar recently when a buddy went on cruise as a judge for weed...he said "it really wasn't that good, the stuff we brought was better" and I said "I think we've just gotten used to the best"


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
    #5748272 - 06/14/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomRunner said:
I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so



you are so, so lucky.


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5748290 - 06/14/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm a light weight as well...I can get stoned from a hit if its good and my tolerance is down


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5748304 - 06/14/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Indica vs. Sativa???


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
    #5748316 - 06/14/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Its common knowledge nowadays that 95% of bud sold in Amsterdam is tumbled before it reaches the consumer, that way profits are increased dramatically.

Cant explain the hash though, that is strange because when I went it was great, however the bud was average IMHO


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: shroomanic]
    #5748319 - 06/14/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Heh, I guess it could be a very small chance that all you ever smoke is Sativa (judging by the high you described) and all you had in Amsterdam was Indica. Still, THC is THC; I think the subjective differences between the two types is more due to the ratios of the other cannabinoids. Probably not even worth dwelling on at this point. Just enjoy your Vancouver herb and your amazingly low tolerance (wish I had it).

Edit: Post above brings up a good point; didn't consider that the bud is likely kiefed. Still, the hash thing is weird.


Edited by ultramarv (06/14/06 01:57 AM)


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ultramarv]
    #5748793 - 06/14/06 06:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you're lucky... i've heared GREAT things about vancuver weed (many times it's been reported as better then amsterdam and probably best in the world!) amsterdam has gotten too comercial to bother getting GREAT results they have their name already so they don't bother!


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ultramarv]
    #5748800 - 06/14/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have only tried two different types from Amsterdam, and it's always been very good.  I usually smoke Mother's Finest from the Umma Gumma coffeeshop, I can't remember what the other type was because my bro bought it and I only tried it twice.

I also have the same extremely low tolerance.  I can barely take more than two bong hits.  5 grams lasted me almost a year. :smile:


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: trippin_balls]
    #5748806 - 06/14/06 07:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomRunner said:
I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so




So you say you smoke around 0,047g of weed in your joint/pipe?
Thats 47mg and i can´t really imagine that this gets you any high.
Even salvia isn´t that strong.
Sorry but i don´t think that its really weed that you´re smoking.


From my experiences the stuff in amsterdam ist amazing strong.
I went there a few times and was always impressed about the quality.
We already have very good stuff here in germany (at least where i live) and 0,5g split between 3-4 persons gets us always plastered all over the place.
Over there we could reduce that to the half or even a third.
And we didn´t smoke the best stuff usually.
With thats its even less.

Somehow i can´t really believe your story.
From my four trips experience to Amsterdam i can say that they have the very best stuff there.


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
    #5748852 - 06/14/06 07:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Edited by pac_man (06/17/06 09:45 AM)


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Pithlit]
    #5748874 - 06/14/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Pithlit said:
Quote:

ShroomRunner said:
I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so




So you say you smoke around 0,047g of weed in your joint/pipe?
Thats 47mg and i can´t really imagine that this gets you any high.
Even salvia isn´t that strong.
Sorry but i don´t think that its really weed that you´re smoking.


From my experiences the stuff in amsterdam ist amazing strong.
I went there a few times and was always impressed about the quality.
We already have very good stuff here in germany (at least where i live) and 0,5g split between 3-4 persons gets us always plastered all over the place.
Over there we could reduce that to the half or even a third.
And we didn´t smoke the best stuff usually.
With thats its even less.

Somehow i can´t really believe your story.
From my four trips experience to Amsterdam i can say that they have the very best stuff there.




So your saying that 0.5g split 4 ways (125mg) gets you plastered all over the place (or in amsterdam you said you could reduce that by a half, so only 63mg) but you don't believe that this guy can't get high off 47mg. I have a very low tolerance as well so i don't find this hard to believe.


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: MindFood]
    #5748965 - 06/14/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

That's 0.047mg, not 47mg.


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: avapxia]
    #5748979 - 06/14/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: pac_man]
    #5748989 - 06/14/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:smile: Oh.

What are we even talking about?


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
    #5749000 - 06/14/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You do know Amsterdam is one of the places with the greatest rip-offs in the world. How many coffeeshops did you go to and which ones? It seems like you just asked for "their best stuff." I don't know if I would trust the people who sell it to you.

Did you get your ice hash at Dampkring? If so, how are you complaining about that?

Also, set and setting. While away, you may be unable to enjoy cannabis in the same way that you do back at home. Stoned trips are always different from that same old buzz you get back at home, perhaps you were only looking for the weed you smoked back a home, so that colored how you smoked the weed in Amsterdam. I think this is a mind and setting issue.


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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: avapxia]
    #5749001 - 06/14/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

silver haze, deisal haze. those sound like sativa strains to me.


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