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ShroomRunner
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Amsterdam weed seemed so weak......
#5748033 - 06/14/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm just wondering if anyone can help me explain what happened, or if there is any alternative explanation to the "amsterdam weed is weak" explanation as the way it seems to me.
I'm from Vancouver, and usually smoke 5-10 times per week. I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so (which seems very, very littel compared to what most of the people on this baord smoke.
When I take my 2 or 3 tokes, the effect comes on after about 2 minutes, and everything is more intense, more meaningful, and I am full of drive and desire. Music becomes 100x better and songs I never cared for become amazing enough that might listen to them 10 times ina row. I get crazy munchies and eat ridiculous 2000 calorie meals, although usually this comes after 2 hours at the gym, a long run, or some intense tennis, as I use marijuana in comjunction with sports and sprt training mainly. Again that is very atypical.
I travelled in Europe this summer, and made 3 stops in amsterdam during the month of may, the longest stretch being 12 days at the start of the trip.
The first place we went into I asked the guy for some strong stuff, and he sold me Silver Haze. I neveer really noticed any effect from the stuff, except that I seemed to feel tired from it. And in trying to get high from it, I'd smoke 3 or 4 times as much as usual, and in doing so, would feel unhealthy.
After a while I went to a place and just asked the guy for his strongest stuff. He sold us "diesel haze," and while it seemed to have a bit more effect, it was only marginally better. We also bought Nepalese Hash, Ice Hash, and Blueberry Weed (apparently the winner of the 1999 cannabis cup). We also met some guys and smoked white widow mixed with tobacco with them. We were ever in search of a high as good as what we are accustomed to getting in Vancouver.
We never got such a high. Although we did do 7 mushroom trips while over there (columbian, thai, amazonian, hawaiian, and philosophers stones) and all the trips were great. Sometimes we rode bikes around the city all night, one time we walked all night, other times we spent hours in the pool/sauna facilities at our hotel, and on the philosophers stones I went for a 3 hours walk in the Dutch countryside, and then when it got cold I ran for 3 hours, just having the most clear thoughts of my life.
Anyways during that run I realized how annoyed I was with the amsterdam weed and how it just wasn't worth bothering with anymore. I told my friend what I thought of the weed and he was feeling pretty much the same way. So we tossed our pipe, liters and weed/hash in the garbage. That was May 11, and I didn't smoke any weed until June 8th, when I got back to Vancouver.
And back here in Vancouver, it's as good as it was before I left. I had a fantastic holiday, did everything I wanted to do, but I am just flabbergasted by my (and my friend's) response to the weed. It just doesn't make sense. I had not heard such a response from other friends who've been there, and if thats what the weed does (just makes you feel tired) then I wouldn't even bother smoking it if I lived there.
It all seems very bixarre to me. Any possible explanations?
Edited by ShroomRunner (06/14/06 01:24 AM)
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5748194 - 06/14/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The only explanation is that you smoked some weak herb. It's possible the strains weren't as good as reported, or they were just grown and harvested/cured improperly or poorly (or even that they didn't sell the good stuff to you). Holland produces some incredible strains though; I don't think your experiences quite reflect weed in Amersterdam as a whole (weed sold in shops, on the other hand..).
Your super low tolerance sounds awesome. It's interesting that you couldn't get a good high there.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ultramarv]
#5748211 - 06/14/06 01:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It just seems hard to explain it that way since we smoked 6 different types of weed, bought from at least 5 different places. The british guys we smoked the white widow and the blueberry with seemed to think it was good.
The guy said diesel haze was his best so we got that.
A guy in a different place said his nepalese hash was the best so we got that.
And the place that had the ice hash charged like 4 times as much for it as any other stuff they had, and it was no better.
Is it possible that the weed in Vancouver is just very different in some unique way?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5748232 - 06/14/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doubtful; THC is THC. It does seem strange that smoking hash wouldn't mess you up when you're used to low doses of weed. Maybe your setting and expections in Vancouver potentiate the effects?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5748270 - 06/14/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I ran into something very similar recently when a buddy went on cruise as a judge for weed...he said "it really wasn't that good, the stuff we brought was better" and I said "I think we've just gotten used to the best"
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5748272 - 06/14/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomRunner said: I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so
you are so, so lucky.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5748290 - 06/14/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm a light weight as well...I can get stoned from a hit if its good and my tolerance is down
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5748304 - 06/14/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Indica vs. Sativa???
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5748316 - 06/14/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its common knowledge nowadays that 95% of bud sold in Amsterdam is tumbled before it reaches the consumer, that way profits are increased dramatically.
Cant explain the hash though, that is strange because when I went it was great, however the bud was average IMHO
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: shroomanic]
#5748319 - 06/14/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heh, I guess it could be a very small chance that all you ever smoke is Sativa (judging by the high you described) and all you had in Amsterdam was Indica. Still, THC is THC; I think the subjective differences between the two types is more due to the ratios of the other cannabinoids. Probably not even worth dwelling on at this point. Just enjoy your Vancouver herb and your amazingly low tolerance (wish I had it).
Edit: Post above brings up a good point; didn't consider that the bud is likely kiefed. Still, the hash thing is weird.
Edited by ultramarv (06/14/06 01:57 AM)
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ultramarv]
#5748793 - 06/14/06 06:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you're lucky... i've heared GREAT things about vancuver weed (many times it's been reported as better then amsterdam and probably best in the world!) amsterdam has gotten too comercial to bother getting GREAT results they have their name already so they don't bother!
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ultramarv]
#5748800 - 06/14/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have only tried two different types from Amsterdam, and it's always been very good. I usually smoke Mother's Finest from the Umma Gumma coffeeshop, I can't remember what the other type was because my bro bought it and I only tried it twice.
I also have the same extremely low tolerance. I can barely take more than two bong hits. 5 grams lasted me almost a year.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: trippin_balls]
#5748806 - 06/14/06 07:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomRunner said: I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so
So you say you smoke around 0,047g of weed in your joint/pipe? Thats 47mg and i can´t really imagine that this gets you any high. Even salvia isn´t that strong. Sorry but i don´t think that its really weed that you´re smoking.
From my experiences the stuff in amsterdam ist amazing strong. I went there a few times and was always impressed about the quality. We already have very good stuff here in germany (at least where i live) and 0,5g split between 3-4 persons gets us always plastered all over the place. Over there we could reduce that to the half or even a third. And we didn´t smoke the best stuff usually. With thats its even less.
Somehow i can´t really believe your story. From my four trips experience to Amsterdam i can say that they have the very best stuff there.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5748852 - 06/14/06 07:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Pithlit]
#5748874 - 06/14/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pithlit said:
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ShroomRunner said: I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so
So you say you smoke around 0,047g of weed in your joint/pipe? Thats 47mg and i can´t really imagine that this gets you any high. Even salvia isn´t that strong. Sorry but i don´t think that its really weed that you´re smoking.
From my experiences the stuff in amsterdam ist amazing strong. I went there a few times and was always impressed about the quality. We already have very good stuff here in germany (at least where i live) and 0,5g split between 3-4 persons gets us always plastered all over the place. Over there we could reduce that to the half or even a third. And we didn´t smoke the best stuff usually. With thats its even less.
Somehow i can´t really believe your story. From my four trips experience to Amsterdam i can say that they have the very best stuff there.
So your saying that 0.5g split 4 ways (125mg) gets you plastered all over the place (or in amsterdam you said you could reduce that by a half, so only 63mg) but you don't believe that this guy can't get high off 47mg. I have a very low tolerance as well so i don't find this hard to believe.
Edited by MindFood (06/14/06 08:02 AM)
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: MindFood]
#5748965 - 06/14/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's 0.047mg, not 47mg.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: avapxia]
#5748979 - 06/14/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: pac_man]
#5748989 - 06/14/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh.
What are we even talking about?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5749000 - 06/14/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You do know Amsterdam is one of the places with the greatest rip-offs in the world. How many coffeeshops did you go to and which ones? It seems like you just asked for "their best stuff." I don't know if I would trust the people who sell it to you.
Did you get your ice hash at Dampkring? If so, how are you complaining about that?
Also, set and setting. While away, you may be unable to enjoy cannabis in the same way that you do back at home. Stoned trips are always different from that same old buzz you get back at home, perhaps you were only looking for the weed you smoked back a home, so that colored how you smoked the weed in Amsterdam. I think this is a mind and setting issue.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: avapxia]
#5749001 - 06/14/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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silver haze, deisal haze. those sound like sativa strains to me.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: avapxia]
#5749005 - 06/14/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: pac_man]
#5749040 - 06/14/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's definitely a problem of mindset and approach. You were in Amsterdam! You can't just smoke a few large bowls here and there. If I were to go to Amsterdam (or rather, when I do), I'd first buy 1g each of 5 kinds of weed and 3 kinds of hash, grind it all together and roll it into a fat fat blunt, then wait until i'd smoked that baby down to figure out what to do next.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Entropymancer]
#5749123 - 06/14/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Entropymancer said: It's definitely a problem of mindset and approach. You were in Amsterdam! You can't just smoke a few large bowls here and there. If I were to go to Amsterdam (or rather, when I do), I'd first buy 1g each of 5 kinds of weed and 3 kinds of hash, grind it all together and roll it into a fat fat blunt, then wait until i'd smoked that baby down to figure out what to do next.
That's what I did.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5749393 - 06/14/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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RAH RAH RAH
"BC-BUD" RAH RAH "AMSTERDAM" RAH RAH.
...Time... for scientific interjection.
Vancouver and Holland (Amsterdam) are both at a higher latitude than Northern California.
Climatically, Northern California is more ideal than both Holland and British Columbia, for marijuana cultivation.
Both indica and sativa (especially) will grow 'easier' here.
When will Northern California get its recognition? I honestly believe Northern California is one of the best locations to grow hybrid strains.
Northern California is pretty much the same concept as British Columbia, except for it is warmer (desirable) and 'lighter,' (more sunlight) for longer periods of time. ON average I'd say it is probably less humid as well. I think the mediterrenean climate with a dash of pacific northwest influence creates an ideal location for marijuana (except for equatorial long-season subtropical sativas.)
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Herbus]
#5749410 - 06/14/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Northern Calif=Freakin' Great Bud!!
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Herbus]
#5749451 - 06/14/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Herbus said: RAH RAH RAH
"BC-BUD" RAH RAH "AMSTERDAM" RAH RAH.
...Time... for scientific interjection.
Vancouver and Holland (Amsterdam) are both at a higher latitude than Northern California.
Climatically, Northern California is more ideal than both Holland and British Columbia, for marijuana cultivation.
Both indica and sativa (especially) will grow 'easier' here.
When will Northern California get its recognition? I honestly believe Northern California is one of the best locations to grow hybrid strains.
Northern California is pretty much the same concept as British Columbia, except for it is warmer (desirable) and 'lighter,' (more sunlight) for longer periods of time. ON average I'd say it is probably less humid as well. I think the mediterrenean climate with a dash of pacific northwest influence creates an ideal location for marijuana (except for equatorial long-season subtropical sativas.)
Northern California and Oregon are probably about the best ganja-growing climates, but British Columbia (and Washington) are close. Holland is probably a little bit too cool to be all that great, but I think top-quality stuff can be turned out nearly anywhere.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
#5749452 - 06/14/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter where it's from. Sure, certain places are more likely to have better bud ( less risk more growers) but I've had BC bud, and I've had better grown here in Ontario... Best bud I've ever had was grown somewhere around Columbia
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: StickyWater]
#5749481 - 06/14/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I bet it has something to do you with you tripping possibley. After tripping shrooms me and my friends find that we just don't get that high for the next 2-4 days after a trip. Before the trip we get ripped off our asses, but after the trip, we smoke the same bud and don't feel a thing besides a little head buzz.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: StickyWater]
#5749515 - 06/14/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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To reply to many of you and give more details.
I was under the impression that maybe at home all I smoke was indica and over there it was mostly sativa? Since I was read that sativa was more mellow.
As I said, when I get stoned, it's usually an energizing, hyper effect. I throw on my headphones and go for a 2 hour run or play tennis (if you're a really good player, playing stoned makes the rally and spin patterns so much more fun).
For me, 2 or 3 small tokes double inhaled (or whatever the term is) and held in for 5-10 seconds gives this effect.
If I'm going to a movie in the cinema, and want to just be slammed in the back of the seat with my eyes wide open in awe then 4-6 hits will do that nicely. After the movie I will be hopping around full of energy.
It's always been very different for me that the typical "stoned" effect that is stereotypical of pot smokers.
In Amsterdam, smoking the regular amounts never amounted to anything really, so eventually it got to the point where we would smoke 2 or 3 small bowls, then smoke a full pure joint and drink a space shake at a coffeeshop, then head out of the door and never seem to feel any effect, except that I'd feel tired and want to take a nap and not really feel like doing anything.
The 7 mushroom trips were spread out more. We tripped in escalating doses our first 3 days there (3,4,5) then tripped a bit later (12) and (14), then again on the 20th and again on the 26th. And every trip was amazing.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5749645 - 06/14/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: pac_man]
#5749696 - 06/14/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sativa would be the one getting you all energized.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: mecreateme]
#5750183 - 06/14/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mecreateme said: You do know Amsterdam is one of the places with the greatest rip-offs in the world.
He speaks the truth. I lived in Holland for a year and visited Amsterdam many times.
The only true exception in my experience is the smart shops. I've always found that the assistants in smart shops are brutally honest with me, even if it means that I will spend less or even not buy something that I would otherwise.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: TurricaN]
#5750199 - 06/14/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#5752984 - 06/15/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Weed in tourist Amsterdam(yes, there is more Amsterdam than the place where you can't speak dutch in coffeeshops) is expensive, but the weed is good and even if you got some low-potent weed it should still get you stoned if you take twice the amount you would normally smoke.
Vancouver weed could be more potent, but not that much more potent. The 7 mushroom trips could have something to do with it, but I really don't know.
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Vancouver and Holland (Amsterdam) are both at a higher latitude than Northern California.
Climatically, Northern California is more ideal than both Holland and British Columbia, for marijuana cultivation.
Both indica and sativa (especially) will grow 'easier' here.
Almost all dutch (commercial)weed is grown indoors so the climate is no problem.
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I was under the impression that maybe at home all I smoke was indica and over there it was mostly sativa?
White widow is indica dominant, I think you said you smoked some white widow. Maybe you smoke pure sativas at home, you won't easily find a pure sativa in Amsterdam.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Annom]
#5753012 - 06/15/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I thought white widow was 60/40 sativa/indica?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Annom]
#5753392 - 06/15/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Annom said: The 7 mushroom trips could have something to do with it, but I really don't know.
Well one or two days after I take shrooms the weed has almost no effect on me.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5753602 - 06/15/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have you ever tripped in Vancouver and then tried to smoke weed a day or two afterwards? Did you have the same not high effects?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Fruitboot]
#5753765 - 06/15/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nah, I always get the good effect from the weed, although I usually prefer not to smoke during a trip or comedown. Although every once in a while a good sized bowl during the comedown can put me in some crazy world of synesthesia and mangled creative thoughts.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
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I know that when Im on vacation I can smoke far more weed. I feel somewhat desensitized by the new surroundings if anything. Then again even if I was smoking "mids"(purple weed in mexico or something) I still get quite high after a few bowls or a few fat tokes for that matter.
I get high off of indicas and sativas in a very similare way. When it comes to weed grown in northern cali(medical mj grown by the pros. legally) I prefer indicas. They do claim to have just about the best buds in the world, and thats not counting the fact that some of these growers seek out the microclimates that are so prevalent in Northern Cali.
Amsterdam has good weed, and great weed.
I dont see the point to this thread besides to complain about good weed. On average, amsterdam's weed might not be as good as the outdoor weed in cali or in some parts of the pacific northwest, but you would have to be an idiot to be disappointed about that fact when in Amsterdam. If you are that disappointed about the buds to the point where it actually surprized/bothers you(disappointed about good hardy buds(while shrooming)) then just buy some hash. If you dont like their good hash, then you can just point your finger up your ass.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: stemmer]
#5754049 - 06/15/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You sound like my kind of stoner. I sit on a quarter for months at a time and it does me just fine. And I like to get up and do stuff-- very creative, energetic etc.
The unhealthy feeling, if you're used to smoking sativas (which it sounds like you are, also by consensus), could be coming from some of the indicas you ran across, combined with the effect of having smoked a lot more than you're used to. I don't know how long you've been smoking, if you've always done it the way you described, but to have a lot of indica (or even sativa for that matter) when you're not familiar with it will make it seem foreign. Maybe to the point where the unfamiliar effects distract you from the rest of the experience. Too bad its so hard to do over again!
Maybe get yourself some material different from what you usually have, and smoke an equivalent amount and compare the effects. Run a test! Duplicate results! Science!
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Fruitboot]
#5754245 - 06/15/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fruitboot said: Have you ever tripped in Vancouver and then tried to smoke weed a day or two afterwards? Did you have the same not high effects?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: MushroomTrip]
#5754279 - 06/15/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I used to smoke pot every day for about 7 years. I never once didnt get high.
I guess it just depends on our perception of what being high really means. It would seem that for alot of people it means fucked up and stumbling on your feet and with words. I guess thats how some people roll....
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: ShroomRunner]
#6807583 - 04/19/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Next time you go try there brownies, put me in a trip-like state.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Ransford]
#6807627 - 04/19/07 07:13 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been to Amsterdam several times, and I've noticed that the quality and the coffeshop are related. If you go around town and get a common type, like White Widow, for example. Almost every place has it, but not two places sell the same stuff. They look and taste drastically different. The best trick for good pot in Amsterdam is to check out their entire selection that they stash behind the counter, and then chose by how they look and smell. The name of the weed doesn't mean much in Amsterdam, but it doesn't mean a damn thing in America. Around here, it's NEVER "Silver Pearl" or Captain's Dingleberries" or what ever the dealers try to sell it as. I don't care much for names, as much as I care about quality. Just use the name to remember which bag is which, as far as Amsterdam weed goes. Maybe it's just from being here in the states so long, but I've smoked the best pot in my life in Europe, and I'm sure all of it came from Amsterdam. There was this one kind called "Misty" which lookied like a neon nugget rolled in sugar until the green wasn't visible. Seriously, this shit left crystals in the corner of the baggie. It got me stoned as hell but not as "high" as some other types did. You know how they rate it by the "stoned" and the "high"? This shit felt like a 9/7, out of all the pot I've tried. What you should take advantage of in Amsterdam isn't the pot....it's the hash. Where else can you get hash with the consistancy of silly putty and the smell of Christmas?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Hippie Chemist]
#6807650 - 04/19/07 07:23 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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The DEA released a statement to the effect that weed from British Columbia is "the crack cocaine of marijuana". The stuff you get at home might genuinely be stronger. I'm surprised about Nepalese hash not getting you high, though. All the weed I've ever smoked from Amsterdam blew my mind out. There's definitely a lot of variety between the different coffee shops, though. You might have just been unlucky with the places you chose to go.
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There was this one kind called "Misty" which lookied like a neon nugget rolled in sugar until the green wasn't visible. Seriously, this shit left crystals in the corner of the baggie
I don't mean to spurt diarrhoea on your parade, but the crystals were possibly fiber glass. Dutch gangs have been putting all manner of shit in weed, and that weed is finding its way all over Europe. A lot of the stuff in England now has either fiber glass or sand in it.
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Where else can you get hash with the consistancy of silly putty and the smell of Christmas?
Very true. Hash you can just roll a stick of and put in a joint, and that will then melt across your buds/tobacco is wonderful.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: EllisDSox]
#6807675 - 04/19/07 07:30 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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That would be fucked up....I believe I bought that particular baggie at either the Bulldog or Rokerej, or who ever you spell it. I avoided the no-name coffeeshops...
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Hippie Chemist]
#6808311 - 04/19/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive had weed that left crystals in the bag many times before the glass stuff. Some coffeeshops rip you off, giving you weak weed for a high price. Making easy money off tourists.
But in general I find the weed here in Amsterdam so strong that I wouldnt mind if it would be a bit weaker even..
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Floop]
#6811880 - 04/20/07 06:56 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you are on a schedule of getting high at certain times and in certain places your body will react diffrently when put into a novel setting. It's possible that bieng so hyped to be in the dam' produced some excess adreniline that changed the chemistry in your body and hence the experience. That said, I have travelled the world and smoked weed in just about every place that I have been. Nothing I mean Nothing compares to the stuff that's grown right here in the good old USA!!! ya'll just have to find the right grower. The shit they sell to the public is not thier best stuff. If you ever meet a experienced grower ask him for a taste of his special reserve. They normally keep the best shit for themselves. At this point it's like talking about the differences between a Ferrari and a Porsche. They are both great, one's a little nicer, at twice the price lmao!
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: floppypeter]
#6868405 - 05/03/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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my friends an average smoker, used to smoking 30's (1/8th oz) american. When he went to Amsterdam and smoked a gram of some good stuff he was so baked he continually kept pushing pull doors and pulling push doors,luahging non stop, he asked a teacher of a (k-9) meaning kindergarten through 9th grade school "where the dogs were at? continually thinking it was a school for k9 dogs, Then perceded to think everyone was in some sort of conspiracy. Honestly I can't think of an explanation for you not getting stoned other than you didn't recognize it as well because you were on vacation, your expectations were possibly way to high. Maybe it's karma paying you back for having such a low tolerance. I can imagine a 1/4 oz lasting about 10 to 15 times total for one person. 150 is an insane amount.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: justin340]
#6868989 - 05/03/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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dude, this thread is really bumming me out.
now im having second thoughts about my trip to amsterdam this winter, which ive been planning for the last 6+ years.
should i just plan on going to vancouver / oregon instead?
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Pithlit]
#12422228 - 04/19/10 06:26 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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ShroomRunner said: I'm a super lightweight stoner, in terms of the fact that I usually only take 2 or 3 tokes from a pipe, and 1/4 ounce of weed is enough to get me high about 150 times or so
So you say you smoke around 0,047g of weed in your joint/pipe? Thats 47mg and i can´t really imagine that this gets you any high. Even salvia isn´t that strong. Sorry but i don´t think that its really weed that you´re smoking.
I'll vouch for him. I've been smoking for about 2 years, and I tend to get well-known Sativa strains. I can make a gram last about 7 sessions, or .142 grams for each good high. If I have a tolerance that is this low, it is not unrealistic for a person with a high metabolism due to working out constantly to have a much lower tolerance.
Just wondering, OP: Did you do nearly as much physical activity when you were in Amsterdam? I really do think it could be all about your diet/work-out regime. Take some Vitamin B12 next time you're there.
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: Fry]
#12422431 - 04/19/10 06:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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ive heard that coffee shops usually sell weak weed to rip off tourists and keep the best stuff for the locales so id try going around and asking people that actually live there where they get their shit and whats the best
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: 34120060]
#12422467 - 04/19/10 07:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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norcal weed >>>>>> any weed in the world
any true statement
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: morrowasted]
#12422516 - 04/19/10 07:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah seriously Amsterdam weed isnt all that. I'm not saying it isn't good, you can find beautiful stuff, but if you smoke dank in Vancouver you smoke dank everywhere. You're not gonna go to Amsterdam, smoke some dank then suddenly keel over. Probably. Cakes on the other hand...
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Re: Amsterdam weed seemed so weak...... [Re: morrowasted]
#12422545 - 04/19/10 07:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: norcal weed >>>>>> any weed in the world
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