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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14531968 -

Good, keep having fun.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Icelander]
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Haven't you heard poids band doing a cover of break on through on his journal? It's really good.


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Grapefruit]
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nope


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I had six hits of sugar cube slipped into a coke and given to me by a "friend".  I didn't trip for two years after that but consider it one of my best trips in retrospect. I was very high.


WOW.... Sounds like a cool think to happen, you ditch the freind in the end?


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Grapefruit]
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Yes I did ditch him. He was a psychopath imo and his dad was Chief of Police where I grew up.  His mom committed suicide in the garage. He was a very good musician and could get good drugs and if we were with him we couldn't get busted.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Icelander]
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Can't imagine tripping with a psychopath, I've met a few I suspected and they seemed completely souless. What was that like in term of the vibes from him, if you remember?


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Grapefruit]
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He could act like a great guy if he wanted to fool you. I didn't know about psychopaths then.  I've hung out with and tripped with several in my youth due to the area I grew up in.  They were all dangerous. I got in trouble a couple of times and it could have turned out bad but by luck I was ok.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
He could act like a great guy if he wanted to fool you.

I know someone who's exactly like this..he'll act like your best friend if you have something that he wants, and is a complete asshole to people he can't use..he is sickeningly manipulative, and is really good at it. I always feel bad for the people who cross his path. :frown:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Poid]
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Depending on your own social standing you could call his bluff, apparently what they fear most is getting called out. But he might kill you so really depends on the social situation and how much you care about the people he manipulates.


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Grapefruit]
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Grapefruit said:
Depending on your own social standing you could call his bluff, apparently what they fear most is getting called out.

He's really good at it, though, and I don't think he gives a shit about being called out, he would just deny it. He has a really loud voice and often speaks over people (like Bill O'Reilly), so there's no way to tell him anything that he doesn't wanna hear.

What do you mean by social standing?


Grapefruit said:
But he might kill you so really depends on the social situation and how much you care about the people he manipulates.

Well he is a veteran, he was a Gunnery Sergeant in the Marine Corps. Really, though, I don't think he would kill anyone because he values his freedom..the risk of going to prison is not worth killing anyone for him.

I care about the people he manipulates, and have even called him out on what he's doing a few times, but he just gets loud and angry. He doesn't physically hurt people, so I don't usually intervene when he's manipulating them..I think it's good to let people figure things out for themselves sometimes.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Edited by Poid (05/29/11 08:46 PM)

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Poid]
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I've read psychopaths do well in wars and are often decorated heros.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Icelander]
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That's interesting..makes total sense. :strokebeard:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Poid]
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By social standing I just meant that if everyone who's freinds with both you and him prefers him or he's good enough at manipulating to turn them against you, them you might lose freinds with some. Probably you're not in that situation though otherwise they wouldn't really be freinds. Still sounds like it's best not to do anything and they will all figure it out eventually.


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Grapefruit]
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Grapefruit said:
Still sounds like it's best not to do anything and they will all figure it out eventually.

Yeah, a lot of people who have been screwed by him are wise to his act, and talk about him behind is back..I figure, eventually, more and more people will notice his ways.

It kinda sucks because, besides his dickishness, he is a really cool dude..I had to tell him to fuck off, though, because he was yelling at me like 3 inches from my face at the top of his lungs when we were getting drunk one time. That was the last straw for me, now I'm glad that I never have to say "Hi!" to him again whenever I see him cruising downtown. :smile:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Cups]
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Cups said:
deranger said:
3.8g TA extract was a good starting dose for me, not enough to break though.  It wasn't strong like a mushroom or aya trip, but more on the subtle side.  It was still very powerful though.  At times I imagined it fixing parts of my mind because of how the presence of the drug felt.

It may look expensive but once you've experienced the benefits of it money won't matter.


Well can't argue with that, but since I'm not informed on dosage levels I want to make sure I'm reading that right.

3.8G = $266

That right?  Everything else we play with is mg/mcg so just checking.


What the hell?

The other site has much MUCH lower prices: http://www.maya-ethnobotanicals.com/product_browse.phtml/catid/subid/herbid_024


This seems odd, or am I missing something here?


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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Simms]
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^^Actually that site is only selling HCL ibogaine and it's more expensive than the stuff deranger used.

Anyway I've been looking into this and it seems many people who've done both prefer the whole alkaloid spectrum trip over the extract.  Yields are pretty good using powdered root bark. (not whole root) 

It seems 25 grams is the going dose (extracted out of course so as not to puke all damn night).

Downside to using the full spectrum is it can last for 2 days on a full dose vs a shorter trip.  That's a looooong time to be tripping. :eek:

So anyway, if you're willing to do some work you can drop that price roughly in half or so.


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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Cups]
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Ok so that site is selling 25 grams of finely powdered root for 22.75.

Would that be enough to extract out an effective dose?

If so it is far more affordable.

Also, the same site is selling 100mg of extract for 37.50. Now, there are 1000 milligrams in a gram. The original poster said he took 3.5 grams of extract and did not have a full break through experience.

So... 37.50 x 10 = the price of one gram = $375 x 3.5 (number of grams OP used) = $1312 for a threshold trip?!

I find this very confusing.

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Solomon Ash]
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That's 22.75 for whole root not root bark.

Cheapest root bark they have is 92 bucks for 25 grams.

The other stuff you are talking is pure ibogaine hcl..not extract.

No offense, but if math isn't your strong suit ibogaine may not be for you.  It can kill you dude.


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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Cups]
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was there an error in my math?

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Re: Ibogaine is downright amazing [Re: Cups]
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A reply I got in another forum about the TA extract and why it would be good to consider the HCl or a known potent bark:

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one thing comes to mind, you say you didnt have full visions. This makes me think that TA ( was it form IW) actually has low Ibogaine/Ibogaline count. It seems that the only way to know what you are doing is to do Ibogaine HCl, so you get the full flood experience.  One provider told me that TA you never know how strong it is... as well as root bark, if you do extractions you never know how much is in it, one provider got 1kg of bark and didnt get much out of it...


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