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Re: cobweb mold
    #14531 - 04/27/00 11:14 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

well there could be a couple things going on..

That sour smell is bad. Usually such happens to my friend when he has cut a cake for casing but then the mycellium doesn't recover at the cut points. There is never any visible mold, but it smells so sweet/fruity he's sure that something is rotting.

You visible growth may be mycellium, but then some areas may be in the situation where the mycellium isn't recovering. In this case the mycellium is fucked and recasing won't help.

Dump (not scrap) off the casing surface,. Look across the top of your mycellium. If there are areas where cut/crumbled regions are exposed and have not regrown over with mycellium, I think you have the same thing my friend gets.

If so, dump the casing and next time grow cakes or case in individual dixie cups. The cups will keep you from having to dump all your casing when this happens.

This seems to happen when he cases stalled jars, after first cutting away the uncolonized region. Perhaps whatever smelly/invisible rot the stopped the casing from recovering also stopped the colonization.



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Re: cobweb mold
    #14533 - 04/27/00 03:16 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

well, if it looks like cotton candy it is almost surely cobweb mold. also cobweb spreads way way faster than mycellium. it can cover a casing in 24 hours easily.

The first thing i would try is misting the shit out of the casing with a 3% peroxide solution (straight out of the bottle). mist it until the casing is somewhat wet but defintely not muddy, you want to leave the casing porous and open.

If the cobweb recovers, scrap the casing layer and take a look at your substrate. if it looks healthy and covered in mycellium, mist it with a peroxide solution and reapply a sterilized casing.

If the casing looks unhealthy, or you see contamination, its probably time to scrap it entirely.

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Re: cobweb mold
    #14534 - 04/27/00 08:32 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Originally posted by djcarcass:
well there could be a couple things going on..

That sour smell is bad. Usually such happens to my friend when he has cut a cake for casing but then the mycellium doesn't recover at the cut points. There is never any visible mold, but it smells so sweet/fruity he's sure that something is rotting.

You visible growth may be mycellium, but then some areas may be in the situation where the mycellium isn't recovering. In this case the mycellium is fucked and recasing won't help.

Dump (not scrap) off the casing surface,. Look across the top of your mycellium. If there are areas where cut/crumbled regions are exposed and have not regrown over with mycellium, I think you have the same thing my friend gets.

If so, dump the casing and next time grow cakes or case in individual dixie cups. The cups will keep you from having to dump all your casing when this happens.

This seems to happen when he cases stalled jars, after first cutting away the uncolonized region. Perhaps whatever smelly/invisible rot the stopped the casing from recovering also stopped the colonization.



i did not use pf tek. i simply spread brownrice mix innoculated then spread casing. but the scenerio is the same. im not sure if any myc ever grew to begin with it may have always been cob mold. thanks


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Re: cobweb mold
    #14535 - 04/27/00 10:19 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Did you even sterlilize??!?!!? Also, the casing layer is suppost to be non-nutrative..meaning NO brown rice flour. If you didnt sterilize at all then it would probly be 100 to 1 chance that you get even 1 fruit. Im sort of a newbie but i dont think there is a tek anywhere that innnoculates a casing directly with spores in un-sterile conditions. You should do some reading..actually a LOT of reading and try again. Dont throw away your casing...if its contaminated then its already too late so go for it and see waht you can make happen. Some contaminated casings can still fruit..though it is rare.


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Re: cobweb mold
    #14536 - 04/28/00 08:44 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

dude,
if it's your 1st time, quit trying to invent shortcuts and do the pf tek.
it works pretty much fool-proof.

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