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 Cobweb mold 
#322636 - 05/21/01 05:01 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello,
Does cobweb mold have a distinct smell? Or anything else that can be used to distinguish it from fluffy mycellium? I know cobweb mold is a greyish color but I can't tell if it's mold or just thin cottony mycellium, because of the casing showing through.
It's on my coir casing. But only in spots where mycellium has broken through. At first the mycellium was coming through as little thread-like rhizomorphs but now it seems to be receeding a little and looks like it is beginning to pin. Also the casing is in too much humidity, 98%, which is another reason why I'm thinking it's just fluffy mycellium. I really can't tell what color it is because it's rather whispy and the coir can be seen below it. Should I try and extract a piece and look at it on a black surface?
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 Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#322655 - 05/21/01 05:18 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Upon closer examination it appears that the fluffy stuff has many very thin threadlike strings that extend out from the casing surface. They all appear to go straight from where they are growing and not just all over the place. It definitely looks more thread-like than cobweb like. But I am still uncertain. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#322660 - 05/21/01 05:24 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Often times as the cobweb takes hold, you will notice black spores in it, but like I said that is after it's been around for awhile. I've never noticed it having a smell tho.
More often than not you should be able to tell the difference..
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
#322668 - 05/21/01 05:28 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you noticed a distinct difference in the way it grows compared to mycellium? It seems to me after looking at some pictures that a good indicator is how the mycellium grows straight rhizomorphs and the cobweb goes in every direction. But I can't be certain I have only seen a few pictures.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#322679 - 05/21/01 05:40 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you suspect it might be cobweb mold then its probably just easier to go the safe route and treat it as if it was.....it doesnt hurt the mycellium too much to treat it with h2o2....I figure better safe then sorry.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: Karen]
#322861 - 05/21/01 09:02 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I concur with Karen...cobweb isn't very hard to wipe out, and very rarely penetrates deeply.
Good Luck.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
#322945 - 05/21/01 10:40 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I looked at it again and I am pretty sure it's mycellium. The casing is also starting to pin, should I still treat with h2o2?
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#323026 - 05/22/01 01:03 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are the only one that can call that...it depends on how sure you are of it not being cobweb mold.
I just recently cased a jar that had grown a small area of green mold...I cut out a large portion of the jar and cased it by itself. The casing started pinning on one half and then practically overnight there was green mold all over the other half. As soon as the casing started pinning I figured that I had managed to cut out the green mold successfully. Guess I was wrong.
Is it pinning anywhere near the area that you think might be cobweb mold? or is completely avoiding that area? That might be a good indicator.
It's really hard to say...you just have to use your best judgement with this one. Maybe someone else with a some experience with cobweb mold can give you some more advice....I haven't had it before...the only contam I seem to get is green mold. I have read my fair share on it though.
Good luck.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#323253 - 05/22/01 11:15 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cobweb is grey. Extract a piece and lay it on a white surface. Or just compare it to some healthy mycelia.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: puscle]
#323313 - 05/22/01 12:38 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think what you describe is classic cobweb. Are there small darkish tips? Do they seem to grow straight up no more than a centimeter? Do they never seem to form rizomorphs? I could be wrong but it sounds like cobweb.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: kingkc]
#323324 - 05/22/01 12:47 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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yo im havin the same problem except mine looks like white puffballswith short threadlike strands. i cant even get mine pinning though and im affraid its all cobwebed up , but there are no other colors except white that show it beiing mycelium. i dunno what the deal is but i cold shocked and fed some light and fanned and misted and all that fun stuff and still no pins. im begginin to believe its all contamed from this white puff ball stuff.. im scared to say its actually smells a little like fruit loops, im assuming this means trouble..
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#323384 - 05/22/01 01:56 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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First time growing? Sounds to me like hyphel knots, which usually is a precursor to pinning...pluck those 'puffs' (dry and save em; they are every bit as edible) and just keep on doing what you've been doing, and I'm guessing you'll prolly be ok.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
#323431 - 05/22/01 02:50 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea I thought mine was never going to pin but it just started, right after this, what I thought was cobweb mold. I am pretty sure it's not since it really isn't spreading, and my humidity is quite high. And after a few pictures I have come to the observational conclusion that cobweb mold is a jumble of hair-like structures that go every which way and the mycellium for the most part grow fairly straight from the center. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#323439 - 05/22/01 02:56 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're absolutely right...cobweb is stringy and thin, resembling, um, cobwebs...
Mycelium has a growth pattern that reminds me of frost freezing...starts at a point and works its way outward like the waves after throwing a rock.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
#323552 - 05/22/01 04:53 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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if its not bright white then get the peroxide. better safe than sorry use in on your casing even if pinning. dont go overboard with the h2o2 either or you'll be back in 3 days complaining you now have green. (it degrades into water you see)
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: shizifty]
#323694 - 05/22/01 07:36 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good point shizifty I don't think too many people realize that.
Hydrogen Peroxide when exposed to light for long enough, or heat, or vigorously shaken will degrade into water. It is a very unstable molecule, with a very weak ionic bond, do to the extra oxygen. So if you think putting h202 in your perlite is gonna keep it fresh forever think again. It will probably turn to water after a day or so of light. But just think you get contamination resistance at first then water and extra oxygen. So it does work out pretty good, at least. 
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#323725 - 05/22/01 08:21 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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ill post u some pics in a little bit , maybe u guys can telll me what it looks like to u
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#323730 - 05/22/01 08:23 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, pics always good for learning! They say a thousand words, or more.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#323847 - 05/22/01 11:21 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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pic! does it look like cobweb or what?
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#323851 - 05/22/01 11:26 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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heres up close , what do u think???
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#323928 - 05/23/01 02:23 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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anyone??
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#324073 - 05/23/01 09:30 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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pl--well, it is hard to say from that picture. i just had a bad bought with cobweb, researched a lot, and asked a fair amount of people for help, and was able to salvage a little bit, but it wasn't easy. from the picture it looks like good mycelium growing, but if that wispy grey stuff (which is suspect) around the growing spots takes over in about 24 hours, then it is probably cobweb. if you decide that it is cobweb, i've found that the best first response is a liberal sprinkling of baking soda. you might want to dust with it anyway, just to be safe. shouldn't hurt the mycelium anyway. perhaps a very light spraying of H2O2. (be careful with the H2O2, because as stated above, it quickly becomes water, and then your casing/substrate can easily become far to moist.) then wait a day or so. the main problem i have found in dealing with it, is that often times, you can stop the growth on the surface, but after further investigation, you'll find it under the substrate or on the sides where you can't see it. but, if you are concerned, try the baking soda, and be patient. give it a few days, and repeat the dusting if you feel it is necessary. on the up side, even if it is cobweb, you might still, in the end, be able to re-case, and reap some shrooms. most of all, don't panic, and don't overdo any of the solutions. it is awfully easy to spray H2O2 all over the place, and end up with a worthless sludge. remember we are dealing with a relatively delicate little eco-system. good luck, and let us know how it goes.
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thnx all for everything, im hopin ill get somethin from this , but even if no shroomies do form, at least i learned alot and can do it all over hopefully iwth a better yield. im gonna wait till 2maorrow till i try the h2o2 just incase, but hopefully some pins will come through. thnx again
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#324316 - 05/23/01 03:25 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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If all else fails, funny thing, but this works, Put the casing out side for the night. Mothernature tends to kill cobweb mold herself rather quickly. This is if all else has failed of course.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: bluhoney]
#324808 - 05/24/01 02:12 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok that grey stuff whatever it is , i think its just shadow , is not gettin any bigger, so im assuming that its not cobweb , woopee, its still not doin much over these past 2 days and still no pins.know what i could be doing wrong, i got abou 91 humid, fanning 3 times a day and flourescent light at least 4hrs a day and a temp of 75 all to initaiate pinning and it doesnt seem like it wants to happen for me. it didnt happen for my cakes either . i think im gonna try a household bulb for light and see if there's a difference like said, what else do i got to lose ya know ? hehe will update
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
#324969 - 05/24/01 10:04 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think i migh have cobweb mold on my cakes. it took a long time for them to fully colonize when they finally did i dunked them because they were dry and now i just noticed VERY FLUFFY white stuff. On some kinda like knots. Like puff balls just on the base of the cake. This pretty much happend overnight. They smell ok so far. Should I use baking soda or peroxide?
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: beanie]
#325091 - 05/24/01 01:12 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't do anything to them..those knots are a sign of fruiting to come. Pick the 'puffs', dry and eat them.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
#325142 - 05/24/01 02:06 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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im not sure we're talkin about the same kinda puffs though, mine are like furry and shit, not like pins or anything, still pick them too??
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#325146 - 05/24/01 02:14 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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You don't really want 91% humidity for casings. If you have too much moisture you'll get contams far worse than cobweb.
From that picture, it looks like mycelia coming into the casing. Looks a little fluffier than I'm used to seeing, but cobweb doesn't really bust out of the casing like mycelia. It kinda sits on top and runs across. Once you have enough experience to know what healthy myclia look like when they colonize the casing, you'll know what cobweb is. Simply, it looks like grey or smokey colored spider webs. Mist it with H2o2 but don't overdo it. It sizzles. Again, too much wet and you'll get an unstoppable contamination.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
#325151 - 05/24/01 02:20 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah mine too. it is odd that is it just on the bottom 1/3 of the cake too.. the last part of the cake to colonize. If this makes sense but I think they were puffier earlier, I started their light cycle and gave them some air and they don't seem quite as furry- dunno but maybe I'm going crazy
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#325156 - 05/24/01 02:28 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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pl151.. No, that doesn't look like cobweb mold to me. It looks like a casing that getting up there in flushes. Pins will come from those fuzzy spots..
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: egghead]
#325186 - 05/24/01 03:07 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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sweet thats just what i need to hear cause i was really losin hope in my self hehe i dropped the humidty to 88 now so ill see how it goes, thnx you are all the best
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 Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
#8553963 - 06/23/08 11:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Greetings
looks to me like thats your good old mycellium poking through your casing layer and quite evenly too. That verm is probably fostering the mycellium to grow quickly in spots like that where there is excess moisture, anyways
but I think your ready to pin dude.
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hey mycelehfan, this thread is from 2001 lol.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: Felinor]
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