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InvisibleSwami
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Messages from "The Other"
    #1426497 - 04/03/03 04:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Terence McKenna called the seemingly separate voice that one may hears significant dosages of psilocybin, "The Other" or the logos.

I only experienced it once and it was EXTREMELY powerful. The message was about gratitude and humility. I will tell the story another time.

My question for today, fellow shroomerites, is have any of you had a message from The Other that was specific and verifiable and that you apparently had NO other way of knowing? In other words, what might convince those of you who have experienced this, that this communication came from outside of you and not just a relatively unexplored part of your psyche?


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1426540 - 04/03/03 04:41 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, when participating in a peyote ceremony with my medicine man I went home and heard him speak to me via telepathy and continue teaching me. The next time I saw him I questioned him to make sure that it was real by verifying a few things he told me in the vision or whatever it was.

This is not the same as "The Other" but it was something I verified for myself that was outside the normal empirical paradigm.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1426597 - 04/03/03 05:06 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

>message was about gratitude and humility

Gratitude and humility. I want to know more. Gratitude for what? Humility to whom?


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1426619 - 04/03/03 05:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yes,an there is know way of knowing..does it matter?
I think anyone who believes anything should consider that exact possibility about there beliefs. For me I have came to the conclusion that what was said indeed does not matter the source for I will not listen to the message for some future promise or some past fear, but for the love that is eternal.

I may go into more detail when I have time, good topic.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1426651 - 04/03/03 05:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I've communicated with "The Other" on numerous occasions.

The last time we spoke, I realized "the Other" is just my subconscious... we still talk now and then (I don't trip much anymore).


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1426728 - 04/03/03 06:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I've felt 'the other' I guess. Not neccessarily as words, but more as an experience or a feeling that was very strong. How do I get it to communicate verbally?


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1426930 - 04/03/03 08:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

A few years ago when the powerball came to Colorado, they had an all time record jackpot.  It was going to be the largest single lottery winning in US history and people were buying tickets like crazy.  The night before the next drawing I was 'in an altered state' and was 'told' what the winning numbers would be.  At the same time, I somehow knew that if I told anybody what the numbers would be, or bought a ticket, that the numbers would change... :smile:  I wrote the numbers down and sealed them in an envelope and gave them to a friend to keep without telling him what he had.  That night, a bunch of people ended up with the winning numbers.  They next day I called my friend and asked him to open the envelope and compare what I had written to the lottery draw.  The numbers I had written down were the winning combination as well.

I have always had a sceptical mind, and I realize that I could have just been very lucky... simple statistics.  I also remember how absolutely positive I was that the numbers I had written down were the ones that would be picked.  Coincendence or spiritual moment, I don't know... however, I am pretty sure that "" has a wry sense of humor.

Edit: I forgot to include how this relates to 'the other'.  A few months earlier, I had experienced... something... perhaps oneness.  I was still trying to figure out what had happened... if there really was a "" or if I was just in the grip of the drug... while meditating on a very low dose of MDMA the above story took place.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1426936 - 04/03/03 08:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The message was about gratitude and humility.

Man, I think these are two of the most important, powerful, profound emotions we can experience. I don't think I have experienced "the other" you are talking about yet, but I don't doubt the message you experienced was of deep significance.


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Re: Messages from [Re: buttonion]
    #1427115 - 04/03/03 09:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Divine significance?


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: buttonion]
    #1427129 - 04/03/03 09:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

McKenna claims its very easy to talk with the" other", just take 5 dried grams and then literally speak to it. You can start off by saying "hello? Are you there?" and see what happens.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: chodamunky]
    #1427222 - 04/03/03 10:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You can start off by saying "hello? Are you there?"

True, but make sure you dial 1 + the area code first...


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1427287 - 04/03/03 11:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lol, it does NOT accept collect calls either


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: ]
    #1427390 - 04/04/03 12:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Mr Mushrooms: Yes, when participating in a peyote ceremony with my medicine man I went home and heard him speak to me via telepathy and continue teaching me. The next time I saw him I questioned him to make sure that it was real by verifying a few things he told me in the vision or whatever it was.







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Suess: A few years ago when the powerball came to Colorado, they had an all time record jackpot. It was going to be the largest single lottery winning in US history and people were buying tickets like crazy. The night before the next drawing I was 'in an altered state' and was 'told' what the winning numbers would be. At the same time, I somehow knew that if I told anybody what the numbers would be, or bought a ticket, that the numbers would change... I wrote the numbers down and sealed them in an envelope and gave them to a friend to keep without telling him what he had. That night, a bunch of people ended up with the winning numbers. They next day I called my friend and asked him to open the envelope and compare what I had written to the lottery draw. The numbers I had written down were the winning combination as well.









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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1427400 - 04/04/03 01:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

My question for today, fellow shroomerites, is have any of you had a message from The Other that was specific and verifiable and that you apparently had NO other way of knowing?

Verifiable telepathic experiences and information with other people and beings outside of myself which I had no other way of knowing? Too many to mention.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1427478 - 04/04/03 01:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

See the post I made here for one experience I had with the Other.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Adamist]
    #1428772 - 04/04/03 02:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If you're interested in the link between tripping and serpents, you might want to get hold of a copy of Jeremy Narby's The Cosmic Serpent. I've written about it in a few posts if I remember well, just do a search on Narby.


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Re: Messages from [Re: Aldous]
    #1428851 - 04/04/03 03:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The Other...........some would have it that it is our subconscious mind being heard through inhibition of ego. Some such as McKenna believe it's the " Logos". Some still, think it God.My experience with the "Other" leads ME to believe that it is an outside inteligence of some sort arising from the implicit reality exploring explicit reality through the chemical/spiritual interface of psilocybin and other substances in us during our experiences.As a strictly subjective experience it can only be an opinion but it seems to fit with the scenarioof my experience quite well . WR


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1433394 - 04/06/03 02:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

don't spoil the paradox, dude, just let the fire purify, if anything of the experience lives on.......


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Aldous]
    #1434940 - 04/07/03 01:31 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the recommendation.


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Re: Messages from "The Other" [Re: Swami]
    #1443604 - 04/09/03 05:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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