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The Law of Attraction is a metaphysical New Thought belief that "like attracts like”, that positive and negative thinking bring about positive and negative physical results, respectively.

According to the Law of Attraction, the phrase "I need more money" allows the subject to continue to "need more money". If the subject wants to change this they would focus their thoughts on the goal (having more money) rather than the problem (needing more money). This might take the form of phrases such as "I will make more money" or "I will find a job that pays very well".

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c0sm0nautt said:

I would worry less about thoughts/feelings than I would about intent.

You can still be feeling angry and cynical, having negative thoughts, while at the same time having the intent to get out of the slump. Thoughts and feelings are erratic for most people - intent comes from somewhere deep. I believe it holds much more power as far as the LOA goes.

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I agree with you, regarding intent.

However, I think that emotions play a factor, and have a power of their own.I think that if emotions are too strong, they may do some work against intent--whether by "their own power" or that of influence.



@circastes  You're right, I should probably study Tao again.

circastes said:

Judging other human beings is a sign of attachment.

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circastes said:

Nothing serious should manifest unless you really want it to.

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CidneyIndole said:

My purpose here is not to discuss whether LOA is valid. If you would like to discuss this instead, I respectfully ask that you start a new thread for this topic.


I'm sure many of you are familiar with concepts like Law of Attraction, and the whole "New Thought" philosophy and practice.

For those of you who aren't familiar:

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The Law of Attraction is a metaphysical New Thought belief that "like attracts like”, that positive and negative thinking bring about positive and negative physical results, respectively.

According to the Law of Attraction, the phrase "I need more money" allows the subject to continue to "need more money". If the subject wants to change this they would focus their thoughts on the goal (having more money) rather than the problem (needing more money). This might take the form of phrases such as "I will make more money" or "I will find a job that pays very well".

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While I think this is a serious oversimplification (as would most who study LOA) I think everyone gets the general idea.


For those of you who are serious about LOA, what do you do when you find yourself in a negative mood or loop or cycle that you have a hard time breaking out of?

How do you handle it when you become cynical about people?  When you know the appropriate response is to send out love and forgiveness, but you feel anger, and envy, and hate in your heart?

Further, what if you were REALLY good at manifesting?

I fear that in such a situation it might be hard to break free of the negativity. Not everyone else out there is practicing LOA... not everyone out there is even really "friendly."  How do you integrate that part of your life into your spiritual practice?

How do you deal with negative people you can't avoid, and still wish them well, when they enrage you?


Needs help.

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Spent months binging on a stimulant drug that can cause psychosis and hallucinations. I believe that despite this drug being kind of dark and dangerous in character, it can cause a certain "magic" in the brain, and for some ODD reason, I have always thought of iboga when trying to characterize this magic. I need to state I've not yet experienced iboga.

After months of binge and some return from "psychosis" I was feeling very much like a different person. At some point during this recovery I took a dose of DMT, irresponsibly, that was a HUGE dose. I don't remember most of the experience.

But ever since, I feel like I am on a psychotherapy rollercoaster. Every once in a while something from my childhood will pop up-=shit I haven't thought of in years. It has allowed for a lot of reflection, and in some cases progress... I'm not sure if my experience was quite as healing as yours. haha  Healing in ways, damaging in others.

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Enpo said:

It's all about intent.

I find ritualistic ceremonies and filling your life with symbolism helps also

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CidneyIndole said:

Deranger... wow. 

First, It's almost like you know me, having posted that first quote... I could have expressed very similar sentiments about how psychedelics have affected me.

Second, I assume that's your report?

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The process described after the experience (and especially like the bit you quoted here, and the other similar paragraph about needing to duck into an alley) remind me of recent experience. I'll try to tie it in and show relevance. Disinterested parties skip the next bit.

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Spent months binging on a stimulant drug that can cause psychosis and hallucinations. I believe that despite this drug being kind of dark and dangerous in character, it can cause a certain "magic" in the brain, and for some ODD reason, I have always thought of iboga when trying to characterize this magic. I need to state I've not yet experienced iboga.

After months of binge and some return from "psychosis" I was feeling very much like a different person. At some point during this recovery I took a dose of DMT, irresponsibly, that was a HUGE dose. I don't remember most of the experience.

But ever since, I feel like I am on a psychotherapy rollercoaster. Every once in a while something from my childhood will pop up-=shit I haven't thought of in years. It has allowed for a lot of reflection, and in some cases progress... I'm not sure if my experience was quite as healing as yours. haha  Healing in ways, damaging in others.

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I am interested in iboga, but that is probably one of the few things I can't easily get my hands on.

Regardless, I think I have a lot more reading to do before I go there, assuming I ever feel ready and willing.

Part of me still wants to take ayahuasca... feels I may benefit... but I've been reluctant about my instability lately, and just got on meds that make MAOI a bitch.

Thank you for the post... a lot to think about...

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I've taken large doses of ayahuasca and it has helped to ground me somewhat, but working with this teacher I think might take years, given the depth of the psychosis I experienced in the past.  I've heard Iboga is much more effective taken at flood level doses (breakthrough)..

I used to think it was too hardcore a drug for me, but after doing research on microdosing, it can be a gentle experience.  Some describe it as more gentle than ayahuasca.

Shame you can't get your hands on it.. I'm assuming because its legality?

Check your mail

CidneyIndole said:

Enpo said:

It's all about intent.

I find ritualistic ceremonies and filling your life with symbolism helps also

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But how do you use intent-- when you want to be positive, but so much about the world almost seems to force or encourage negativity?

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Enpo said:

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The fastest way to do this is if you have no  background, no culture, no belief in resources, or resourcefulness, is violence. If I put a gun to your head in the hood, instantly I'm significant. 0-10, how high? 10. How certain am I you're gonna respond to me? 10.

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