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Anonymous #1

Xanax proving to be a mixed bag.
    #13868964 - 01/28/11 11:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I was prescribed xanax a few weeks ago following several severe panic attacks and panic like symptoms which lasted for nearly a month.  If it hadn't been for meditation and psychedelic experience I would have definitely ended up in the ER on a few of the attacks.

I am glad to report that it has stopped the attacks in their tracks and I haven't had one since.  There have been a few times when I felt my brain starting to wind up and have had to take a bit extra, but all and all it's be pretty good. 

Dosage started at .25X3 and I've increased to .5X3 which seems to be holding. (past week)

Here's the bad stuff.  Almost immediately I felt "cut off"...from God from the Universe from whatever.

Next came a mild kind of apathy.  Now as the dose has increased my memory and recall is getting worse (slightly) and my energy/motivation is pretty much gone.

Creativity/insight/etc gone as well.

I've found my self becoming more irritable and flat out snappy on occasion.

In the past few days I've been getting increasingly depressed and thinking more of suicide as a rational way out of this yo yo called my life. 

So, on the one hand I can go out and do things without sweating through my clothes and feeling like I am having a heart attack...on the other when I see a sunset I feel NOTHING. 

Kind of sucks guys. :frown:

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13869068 - 01/29/11 12:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

get off the xanax and stick to meditation... what type of answer were you looking for..?

maybe look into some soothing ayurvedic herbs. i personally like bacopa, holy basil, and ashwaghanda to name just a few


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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: owls]
    #13869857 - 01/29/11 07:46 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not sure what answers I am looking for.  :shrug:

I' really just frustrated.  Even with the meditation before the xanax I had 2 weeks were I was non-functional.  Couldn't leave the house, could barely maintain period.

With it I've been able to go out and work and exercise and things.

SO I took it and was all excited at first...miracle cure...but as the weeks drag on the side effects pile up it begs the question - At what cost?

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13870662 - 01/29/11 11:43 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
I was prescribed xanax a few weeks ago following several severe panic attacks and panic like symptoms which lasted for nearly a month.  If it hadn't been for meditation and psychedelic experience I would have definitely ended up in the ER on a few of the attacks.

I am glad to report that it has stopped the attacks in their tracks and I haven't had one since.  There have been a few times when I felt my brain starting to wind up and have had to take a bit extra, but all and all it's be pretty good. 

Dosage started at .25X3 and I've increased to .5X3 which seems to be holding. (past week)

Here's the bad stuff.  Almost immediately I felt "cut off"...from God from the Universe from whatever.

Next came a mild kind of apathy.  Now as the dose has increased my memory and recall is getting worse (slightly) and my energy/motivation is pretty much gone.

Creativity/insight/etc gone as well.

I've found my self becoming more irritable and flat out snappy on occasion.

In the past few days I've been getting increasingly depressed and thinking more of suicide as a rational way out of this yo yo called my life. 

So, on the one hand I can go out and do things without sweating through my clothes and feeling like I am having a heart attack...on the other when I see a sunset I feel NOTHING. 

Kind of sucks guys. :frown:





I recently had a bad reaction to Kratom, and it sent me into constant waves of panic attacks lasting for 3 days, no sleep, and 2 ER visits. I finally got my regular doctor to refill my prescription of Avitan, and its still just been sitting in my medicine cabnet. Im fine now that my body and mind are rebalanced but for fucks sake stay away from Benzos at all cost. Save them for an emergency.


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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13871066 - 01/29/11 01:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
I'm not sure what answers I am looking for.  :shrug:

I' really just frustrated.  Even with the meditation before the xanax I had 2 weeks were I was non-functional.  Couldn't leave the house, could barely maintain period.

With it I've been able to go out and work and exercise and things.

SO I took it and was all excited at first...miracle cure...but as the weeks drag on the side effects pile up it begs the question - At what cost?




what exactly are your issues in the first place? i mean what brought on the intense anxiety/panic response?


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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13872314 - 01/29/11 05:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Edited by Anonymous (03/07/20 02:40 PM)

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #13872496 - 01/29/11 06:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ok, i was wonder where the lack of intellect was coming from :tongue:


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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: owls]
    #13872512 - 01/29/11 06:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Its been shown time and time again that benzos are a BAND AID and they are NOT suppose to be used for long term and yet doctors fucking prescribe that shit like candy. Benzos fuck with your natural GABA badly and over time they will have a rebound effect and they will leave you worse off than before you started (even on benzos)

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: owls]
    #13873153 - 01/29/11 08:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What's your excuse?

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Uzziel]
    #13889035 - 02/01/11 05:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
Its been shown time and time again that benzos are a BAND AID and they are NOT suppose to be used for long term and yet doctors fucking prescribe that shit like candy. Benzos fuck with your natural GABA badly and over time they will have a rebound effect and they will leave you worse off than before you started (even on benzos)





Bullshit. I got treated like absolute shit at a hospital twice because i came in needing benzos. The only reason my regular doctor has no problem giving them to me is because ive taken in near full prescriptions months after they are originally prescribed just to prove im not trying to abuse them.

and this is in California. :shrug:


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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Almond Flour]
    #13891115 - 02/01/11 10:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that shit is what happens when you take xanax daily.

You should have seen me after taking 6 mg of Klonopin daily for a year.

Double plus ungood.


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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Almond Flour]
    #13891198 - 02/01/11 11:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Herbal said:
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Uzziel said:
Its been shown time and time again that benzos are a BAND AID and they are NOT suppose to be used for long term and yet doctors fucking prescribe that shit like candy. Benzos fuck with your natural GABA badly and over time they will have a rebound effect and they will leave you worse off than before you started (even on benzos)





Bullshit. I got treated like absolute shit at a hospital twice because i came in needing benzos. The only reason my regular doctor has no problem giving them to me is because ive taken in near full prescriptions months after they are originally prescribed just to prove im not trying to abuse them.

and this is in California. :shrug:




You don't go to a hospital for prescription drugs dude. They will think 100% you are drug seeking if you go in asking for drugs of any sort, especially if you look like somebody who would do drugs. The only time they give drugs if THEY think it is necessary (ie: you are in visible pain)

A family doctor is the goldmine of drugs. I can get anything I want if I talk to my doctor. I've gotten benzos, opiates and amphetamines. I don't have a regular prescription either. I just tell him the truth and he helps me out. Not doing well in school? Heres some dexedrine to help you focus. Sore throat/bad cough? Guiatuss or some vicodin. Can't sleep or anxious lately? Heres some klonopins..

fucking easy dude. not all doctors are like this I know, but really, its not hard.

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Uzziel]
    #13891586 - 02/02/11 12:32 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
Its been shown time and time again that benzos are a BAND AID and they are NOT suppose to be used for long term and yet doctors fucking prescribe that shit like candy. Benzos fuck with your natural GABA badly and over time they will have a rebound effect and they will leave you worse off than before you started (even on benzos)



at least someone knows what they are talking about with these things.

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13892626 - 02/02/11 08:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The guy I went to see when this happened was this dude- http://www.drgranoff.com/

He is a panic attack "specialist" who just happens to be by my house.  He tells me he has patients who have been on stable doses of xanax for literal decades with no problems.  He says once the body levels out after a few months there is usually no need to increase the dose anymore.

He also says that withdrawal trouble is a ""myth". :strokebeard:  Only affects 2%.  :eek:  I've read a few accounts where someone quit xanax with no troubles but not many.  Although he does believe in tapering.

The theory he works under is because our brains have receptors for benzos..we must make them naturally anyway.  So, by using xanax or whatever we're just naturally supplementing what the body is already making.

Or something along those lines.

All I can tell you is that after 2 weeks I increased from .25 to .5  Now it's two weeks later and the physical symptoms are creeping their way back through even with the beta blocker.  A .5 used to last me almost 8 hours...now I get some tightening of the throat and some chest pain after 5 or so hours.  Same thing when I wake up in the morning.

I read somewhere this may mean I am going through mini-withdrawal?

Sleep is no good either.  Even though I take one right before bed I'm only asleep for maybe 3-4 hours tops and then it's toss and turn- little 15 minute naps for the next 4 hours.  Exhausting.

How would you guys recommend getting off this without relapsing into full blown panic mode?

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13893203 - 02/02/11 11:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If you honestly believe what you just wrote, holy fucking bajesus, you need to go read up on what xanax (benzos) does to your body over the long term and not what some fuckhead making $$$ off xanax tells you.

If you think you will always be able to take a low dose of xanax, you are EXTREMELY mistaken. Tolerance rapidly builds and you'll need more and more, which also means less GABA... the rebound effect will become worse and worse the more you take, do you plan on being a pill forever, and that same pill will eventually become useless

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The big problem is all because of your brain's laziness. See, your brain makes it's own natural Xanax-like substance, called GABA. GABA works by inhibiting the brain's natural tendency to speed up. It's like a brake pedal, where the accelerator is stuck in the pedal-to-the-metal mode. GABA keeps your brain from over-working. Xanax (and other sedatives, and alcohol) works by acting like GABA in the brain (sort of). If you start taking it daily, your brain starts thinking "I guess I don't need to make so much GABA because this Xanax stuff is here, so I'll only make 20% of what I usually make." It takes a week or more for your brain to stop making the GABA (which is why just a few days on Xanax won't lead to much trouble), and a week or more for it to start making it again when you stop taking the Xanax.

Here's where the trouble begins. If Xanax wears off in just a few hours, but it takes a week for your brain's natural Xanax to kick back in, what happens in the interim? Withdrawal. What does that feel like? It feels like a panic attack, but worse. High blood pressure, rapid heart beat, tremors, confusion, delirium, hallucinations, seizures. What do folks do when they feel a panic attack coming on? Take another Xanax.




You start taking this shit for long term and see what happens. You don't have to believe me, but this shit fucks you up.


PS. There is no way you are going through withdrawls at .5mg... what the hell man, suck it up and go relax, meditate, do something to get your mind off things, 1.5mg of xanax daily isn't too bad, but I suppose its been a few weeks, just taper off a bit or just stop using. You won't die, you're fine

Edited by Uzziel (02/02/11 11:24 AM)

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13897860 - 02/03/11 02:29 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous said:
He also says that withdrawal trouble is a ""myth". :strokebeard:  Only affects 2%.




Sounds like 100% bullshit, if you ask me.


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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13897962 - 02/03/11 03:33 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #13898570 - 02/03/11 09:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for all the input guys.  :thumbup:

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Re: Xanax proving to be a mixed bag. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13898597 - 02/03/11 09:30 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

GABA is HARDCORE

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