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If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see
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I was at this rave the other day and saw a blind man there, with his cane and glasses, just moving slowly to the music. It was really cool cause where else but a rave do you get stuff like that :P (With no one making fun of him etc, but always doing their best to aid him, like random people helping him walk through the crowd etc).

But anyways it got me thinking, if a blind man took a heavy psychedelic dose, what would he see? (Or she lol).
Would he have CEVS? If so, I wonder what they would see. Because we see scenes in our vision that have been recreated from stuff we see normally.

I wonder anyone has ever done a study on it


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Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world?


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Something abut that anaesthetic rush... :inlove:

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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Dead people


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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i bet they still get trippy colors.. ever get closed eye visuals? sometimes cooler/more profound then open-eye. im going to be blind by 40... this will be me at the RAVEs :blindfury:


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Mello Kitty]
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ellenallien said:
i bet they still get trippy colors.. ever get closed eye visuals? sometimes cooler/more profound then open-eye. im going to be blind by 40... this will be me at the RAVEs :blindfury:



Aww really?? Why!!


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Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name

Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world?


There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K
Something abut that anaesthetic rush... :inlove:

Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences
The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine
The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One

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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: box of rain]
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Blind would probably open their 3rd eye and see into Astral dimension! :stoned::eek:


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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tymoteusz3 said:
ellenallien said:
i bet they still get trippy colors.. ever get closed eye visuals? sometimes cooler/more profound then open-eye. im going to be blind by 40... this will be me at the RAVEs :blindfury:



Aww really?? Why!!



trying to find it on wiki but im not sure have to ask my mum she knows. something similar to A.M.D. Advanced Macral Degeneration...


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Effects of a Hallucinogenic Agent in Totally Blind Subjects:

http://www.lycaeum.org/research/researchpdfs/1094.pdf


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Tetriana]
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Tetriana said:
Effects of a Hallucinogenic Agent in Totally Blind Subjects:

http://www.lycaeum.org/research/researchpdfs/1094.pdf



very cool! so this is gonna be me..!?  :congrats:


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Mello Kitty]
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ellenallien said:
Advanced Macral Degeneration...



Macular Degeneration? my gdad had it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macular_degeneration


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: frith]
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frith said:
ellenallien said:
Advanced Macral Degeneration...



Macular Degeneration? my gdad had it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macular_degeneration



yea i thought. but its something similar to that becus im not 55 yet lol


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Mello Kitty]
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at the Eye-Doc they show me a really cool video that slowly gets out of focus until nothing is in focus. its supposed to show u what your blindness will be like but on a more rapid scale. kinda creepy.. but neat.. tried to find it on youtube


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Mello Kitty]
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My Gdad also has amd, don't know how I would feel about going blind, Might be peaceful. but I Would have to learn to play the piano.


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: box of rain]
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pretty much everything i do on the computer is text based already.. id just need to throw on a screen reader and id be good.

actually.. i just remembered i had a screenshot of the shoomery in a text browser.. this is about a year old.



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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: frith]
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"LSD-induced visual hallucinations can occur without a functioning retina."

Nice. Interesting.


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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what if a blindy smoked DMT

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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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tymoteusz3 said:
I was at this rave the other day and saw a blind man there, with his cane and glasses, just moving slowly to the music. It was really cool cause where else but a rave do you get stuff like that :P (With no one making fun of him etc, but always doing their best to aid him, like random people helping him walk through the crowd etc).

But anyways it got me thinking, if a blind man took a heavy psychedelic dose, what would he see? (Or she lol).
Would he have CEVS? If so, I wonder what they would see. Because we see scenes in our vision that have been recreated from stuff we see normally.

I wonder anyone has ever done a study on it



Nothing I generally see on higher doses of mushrooms has ever been experienced by me before :shrug: The parts of the brain responsible for mental imagery are different than those responsible for vision - if anything I would imagine a blind person has very good powers of mental imagery.


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: twighead]
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in the land of the blind,a one eyed man is king


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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: twighead]
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I suspect all this is related to dreams.

Take a congenitally blind person - someone blind at birth whose brain never once assimilated the concept of visual perception. At night, these people dream too, but they have strong auditory, olfactory and tactile hallucinations; visuals do not play a part.

Someone who has become blind midway through their life, whose brain (whether consciously or subconsciously) could once visually perceive do also visually dream. These non-congenital blind people do, however, note that the longer they've been blind for, the hazier the visual aspect to their dreams and the more accentuated the other senses become.

I reckon this would be the same with tripping. A completely congenitally blind person would have no visual aspect to their trip as their brain cannot comprehend the very concept of visual interpretation. One who has developed blindness at a later stage in life, however, would have a visual aspect to some degree.

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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Sheeno]
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Sheeno said:
I suspect all this is related to dreams.

Take a congenitally blind person - someone blind at birth whose brain never once assimilated the concept of visual perception. At night, these people dream too, but they have strong auditory, olfactory and tactile hallucinations; visuals do not play a part.

Someone who has become blind midway through their life, whose brain (whether consciously or subconsciously) could once visually perceive do also visually dream. These non-congenital blind people do, however, note that the longer they've been blind for, the hazier the visual aspect to their dreams and the more accentuated the other senses become.

I reckon this would be the same with tripping. A completely congenitally blind person would have no visual aspect to their trip as their brain cannot comprehend the very concept of visual interpretation. One who has developed blindness at a later stage in life, however, would have a visual aspect to some degree.



Are brains are SO cool.
So many people don't realize just how amazing we really are.


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Yes this is tymo - I just changed my name

Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to awake from that dream? How would you know the difference between that dream world and the real world?


There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K
Something abut that anaesthetic rush... :inlove:

Qualitative Research Chemical Effects and Experiences
The Wonderful World of Methoxetamine
The 3-Meo-PCP Chapters, Part One

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Re: If a blind man takes shrooms what does he see [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Would be a pretty interesting research topic. I don't think he'd see anything if he'd been blind his whole life. The visuals are more then likely just like dreams, everything in the brain unloading at once. If you'd never seen anything, there's nothing to see :shrug: I'm not a dentist though, so don't quote me on any of this.


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