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Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure
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(CNN) -- The Stockholm Criminal Court on Thursday issued an international arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on probable cause, saying he is suspected of rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force.

The court also ordered Assange arrested in his absence, which requires Swedish authorities anywhere in the world to detain Assange if they come across him. Sweden's director of prosecutions, Marianne Ny, had requested the arrest in absence.

"The background is that he has to be heard in this investigation and we haven't been able to get a hold of him to question him," Ny said earlier Thursday.

Assange faces five counts that appear related to two incidents, according to the request Ny filed with the court.

He faces one count of rape and one count of sexual molestation related to an instance around August 17 in Enkoping, just outside Stockholm. He then faces two counts of sexual molestation between August 13 and 18 in Stockholm, and one count of illegal use of force between August 13 and 14, also in the capital.

Assange could be sentenced to at least two years in prison if convicted, according to the document.
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It is the first time authorities have mentioned probable cause. The molestation charge, previously mentioned in the case, has also been upgraded to sexual molestation.

In a news release issued after the court's decision, Assange's British lawyer said the charges stem from consensual sexual relationships his client had with two women.

"Only after the women became aware of each other's relationships with Mr. Assange did they make their allegations against him," lawyer Mark Stephens said in the statement.

Stephens also said neither he nor Assange "have ever received a single written word, at any time, in any form, from Swedish authorities on the Swedish investigation against our client."

The media has been the only way they've learned substantial information about the investigation, Stephens said. He called it "a clear contravention to Article 6 of the European Convention, which states that every accused must be informed promptly, in a language which he understands and in detail, of the nature and cause of the accusation against him."

It was unclear where Assange was Thursday. Stephens told CNN he could not reveal his client's location.

Swedish prosecutors announced over the summer they were investigating Assange in two separate cases of rape and molestation. Ny said then there was reason to believe a crime had been committed, but that more investigation was necessary before she could make a final decision.

Assange has maintained he is innocent, telling the Arabic-language television network Al-Jazeera the accusations were a "smear campaign."

Assange repeatedly declined to answer questions about the rape and molestation investigation and what the allegations may mean to his organization when he spoke to CNN's Atika Shubert in October.

"This interview is about something else. I will have to walk if you are ... if you are going to contaminate this extremely serious interview with questions about my personal life," he said. Moments later, he walked off the set.






Go figure; he always looked like a creep.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Nexius]
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Damn, that sucks for wikileaks.


Either way: a) you should know by now you need to start discussions when copy pasting crap here., b) this is interesting.  Does anyone know how decentralized the administration of wikileaks is?  My understanding was that it was relatively immune to technical failures such as hosts dropping them and so forth, and I've heard it claimed that their network of volunteers provides some redundancy in the actual administration, but I'm not sure.



Also, I'd be cautious about presuming so much just from the arrest warrant itself.  From what I read previously, these charges were considered and declined previously- though I believe there's two incidents.


If this is the same thing that was raised earlier, does anyone know what the new evidence is and why they decided to charge him now?

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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Nexius]
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I don't know the new evidence

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(CNN) -- The Stockholm Criminal Court on Thursday issued an international arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on probable cause, saying he is suspected of rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force.





However; It could be some who's just butthurt and wants his money... He is a rich bastard...


Anywho there is two incidents.  I do know that.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Nexius]
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His organization is crumbling and he is barely rational any more. 

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/wikileaks-revolt/

I don't know how wealthy he is but he is running out of places to go.  Sweden denied him residency a month ago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11570283


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: zappaisgod]
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This has been known for a whilleeee

move this to conspiracy and speculate on wikileaks being run by the CIA???

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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure *DELETED* [Re: wellage] * 1
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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Lakefingers]
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This strikes me as revenge for the leaked war documents.

Is there anything other than hearsay?

The Feds would LOVE to put this guy away, they're probably itching for any possible excuse to arrest him.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Shins]
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Not to say the allegations are false, but this seems incredibly convenient.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: WScott]
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It's sweden... not the usa


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Shins]
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> This strikes me as revenge for the leaked war documents.
> Not to say the allegations are false, but this seems incredibly convenient.

At the same time, knowing that people would think the government(s) are gunning for him, Assange could have taken advantage of the situation to play out his darker desires.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> This strikes me as revenge for the leaked war documents.
> Not to say the allegations are false, but this seems incredibly convenient.

At the same time, knowing that people would think the government(s) are gunning for him, Assange could have taken advantage of the situation to play out his darker desires.



It's a possibility that it don't rule out, though weighing the circumstances i find it to be unlikely.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Shins] * 1
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> though weighing the circumstances i find it to be unlikely.

I care more about evidence than circumstances.  As no evidence has been released to the public, I try to hold back judgment.  However, I do find it concerning that the claims against Assange were made by two different people.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Seuss]
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I see it being perfectly plausible that they just want his money.

He does look like a creep though


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Nexius]
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Btw Seuss, I really really like your sig


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
His organization is crumbling and he is barely rational any more. 

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/wikileaks-revolt/

I don't know how wealthy he is but he is running out of places to go.  Sweden denied him residency a month ago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11570283




Could you explain mor specifically why you say he's barely rational?

Anyways, he's alleged the talked-of 'exodus' of wikileaks volunteers is a farce constructed our of sour grapes by one ex-volunteer who actually did quit.  I don't know either way, just throwing that out there.

Either way, hopefully some more decentralized examples of these types of sites will be set up.  Despite the whining of the luney tunes crowd, the US actually has really good protection for this type of stuff- the problem would be finding hosts et cet (unless they can nail the site on a conspiracy or inducement-type charge).

Personally I was taken aback seeing the hyped video of the shootings of the reporters (I'm presuming this is accurate).  I was shocked how cavelier the soldiers were and how inpercise they were with their language in reporting AK-47 rifles were equipped by the targets when there was clearly no way in hell they could have determined that.  Seems a good public service to me.  I do wish they'd be more responsible in their disclosures though, if some of the allegations are true.

In my view, they should have given the US government a chance to point out particularly sensitive informaiton for consideration of removal.  My understanding is that this really wasn't done, despite some claims to the contrary.

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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: johnm214]
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> Could you explain more specifically why you say he's barely rational?

There are several online chat logs with him posted on the net.  They are easy to find with google.  I have to agree with Zappa... if the chat logs are accurate, then he is losing it.  I'm not an expert, but to me it sounds like he has delusions of grandeur coupled with an unhealthy dose of paranoia.

> Anyways, he's alleged the talked-of 'exodus' of wikileaks volunteers is a farce constructed our of sour grapes by one ex-volunteer who actually did quit.

Again, if the chat logs with him are accurate, this is obviously not the case.

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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Seuss]
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The Stockholm Criminal Court on Thursday issued an international arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on probable cause, saying he is suspected of rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force.

He deserves that. It could not be better if he is sentenced to death


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: killersneakers]
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> He deserves that. It could not be better if he is sentenced to death

He deserves due process and an appropriate punishment if he is found to be guilty by a jury of peers.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> He deserves that. It could not be better if he is sentenced to death

He deserves due process and an appropriate punishment if he is found to be guilty by a jury of peers.





Oh but they will be paid off, of course.


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Re: Julian Assange, rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Go figure [Re: Nexius]
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He is bringing unspeakable pressures upon himself by doing what he is doing. It is important not to give the 'raw data' that is being revealed by WikiLeaks the face of Julian Assange; they are different things.

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He and WikiLeaks both have been attacked in the media by Leon Panetta, Director of the CIA, Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and highest ranking officer in the US and Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates not to mention the well recognized media personalities such as Marc A. Thiessen, a former bush administration chief speech writer and currently a Washington Post columnist who wrote "Assange is a non-U.S. citizen operating outside the territory of the United States. This means the government has a wide range of options for dealing with him." Christian Whiton, a Fox News contributor, said "WikiLeaks should be declared 'enemy combatants'," indicating they should be dealt with outside the law and Jonah Goldberg, a conservative syndicated columnist asked "why wasn't Julian Assange garroted in his hotel room years ago?"



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In October 2010 Julian Assange won the Sam Adams Award for Integrity. He has also been awarded the 2009 Amnesty International Media Award and the Economist Index on Censorship Award in 2008. It is important to remember that accolades such as these do not come without tremendous hard work.



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