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Karma, Do you believe in it?
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I'm not sure if i do.

Recently, My LSD dealer was robbed of her rent money and a couple strips of some L and some Dmt. Robbed by a "friend" she gave a place to stay because he was out on the streets.

Now, She is probably one of the most innocent people i've ever met. She is always very nice to everyone. She's offered me a place to stay in her apartment tons of times when i had no where else to go.

I feel like i've seen people who live their lives being nice to everyone, and always caring about making everyone around them happy. But always having the worse shit happen to them.

And i feel like i've seen people who live their lives, stealing, lying, and cheating. but still living their lives with little consequences.

I think the laws of Karma are mainly just based off "cause and effect"

Like if you rob someone, And they know who you are and where you live, Something obviously is going to happen to you. Not because Karma said so.


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: Connor4050]
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I do believe in karma, and that generally the more good things you do for others the more good things others do for you...but I also believe we have to be selfish or we'll get walked all over and taken for everything we got.
Also many (but not all) people who are on the streets are on the streets because they do shady shit like that to the people who give them places to stay.

I bunked someone on a vial like 4 years ago. I tried to make it right by giving them some free L the other week. It turned out the stuff that I tried to give to him to clean out my karma was bunk in itself. Was that bunk sheet my bad karma for bunking him? IDK...its just ironic that my karma caused me to be unable to clean my karma at the particular point in time I picked to do it.

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
I do believe in karma, and that generally the more good things you do for others the more good things others do for you...but I also believe we have to be selfish or we'll get walked all over and taken for everything we got.
Also many (but not all) people who are on the streets are on the streets because they do shady shit like that to the people who give them places to stay.



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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: Connor4050]
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Karma is cause and effect.  The only thing to believe in or not is whether its effects reach beyond this life.  Otherwise, yeah that last example is quick acting karma.  You rob somebody, and then your karma works itself out by them fucking you up cause they know where you live.

Karma isn't just "do good and good things will happen." It is a little bit, but it's really a much more subtle idea.  It would be impossible to analyze somebody else's karma because you'd have to know every thought and impression in their brain plus everything that's happened to them in their past lives, if you believe that.

They way I think about karma is that the smallest decisions probably have direct effects that most people are unaware of.  Like, say you narrowly avoid dying in a car crash.  All the past events in your life lead directly to that moment and if one thing had happened differently, you may have died.  And what if you could look back on what that one thing was, and it turns out that you lived because you helped an old lady across the street or something?  That's just my highly speculative idea of karma I guess.


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: g00ru]
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i believe


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: g00ru]
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guruu said:
They way I think about karma is that the smallest decisions probably have direct effects that most people are unaware of.  Like, say you narrowly avoid dying in a car crash.  All the past events in your life lead directly to that moment and if one thing had happened differently, you may have died.  And what if you could look back on what that one thing was, and it turns out that you lived because you helped an old lady across the street or something?  That's just my highly speculative idea of karma I guess.


This too.


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: deCypher]
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why are most lsd dealers females?

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: Connor4050]
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to quote redgreenvines from a completely different thread:

redgreenvines said:
karma is the internal leveller
feelings are involved:
the feeling of pleasure is resultant of good karma
the feeling of pain is resultant of bad karma

indifference is resultant of neutral karma.



the roots of bad karma are hatred, greed and delusion
the roots of good karma are love, generosity and wisdom/clarity

suffering of pain is alleviated with good karma and intensified with bad karma. basic eastern psychology. I think it works,
but not necessarily via re-incarnation into subsequent bodies.
it is particularly effective within the life span.

it is not so much about what happens, but how what happens is translated into feelings (particularly pain or pleasure).


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: NastyDHL]
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hmmm interesting that's a different take


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: NastyDHL]
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i believe karma affects everything in life including thoughts

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: dust]
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if it does exist i'm owed a fuck load of positivity nuggets.

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: g00ru]
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i think it is fucking hilarious ironic when someone takes pleasure out of someone else's hypothetical pain when they have been wronged and they say "well that fucker will get whats coming to him. karma is a bitch"--when really they are just invoking bad karma on themselves by wanting another to suffer.

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: NastyDHL]
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NastyDHL said:
i think it is fucking hilarious ironic when someone takes pleasure out of someone else's hypothetical pain when they have been wronged and they say "well that fucker will get whats coming to him. karma is a bitch"--when really they are just invoking bad karma on themselves by wanting another to suffer.


yeah that's true, i don't hope people will suffer, it usually just happens in one way or another

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: NastyDHL]
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NastyDHL said:
to quote redgreenvines from a completely different thread:

redgreenvines said:
karma is the internal leveller
feelings are involved:
the feeling of pleasure is resultant of good karma
the feeling of pain is resultant of bad karma

indifference is resultant of neutral karma.



the roots of bad karma are hatred, greed and delusion
the roots of good karma are love, generosity and wisdom/clarity

suffering of pain is alleviated with good karma and intensified with bad karma. basic eastern psychology. I think it works,
but not necessarily via re-incarnation into subsequent bodies.
it is particularly effective within the life span.

it is not so much about what happens, but how what happens is translated into feelings (particularly pain or pleasure).




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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: NastyDHL]
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NastyDHL said:
to quote redgreenvines from a completely different thread:

redgreenvines said:
karma is the internal leveller
feelings are involved:
the feeling of pleasure is resultant of good karma
the feeling of pain is resultant of bad karma

indifference is resultant of neutral karma.



the roots of bad karma are hatred, greed and delusion
the roots of good karma are love, generosity and wisdom/clarity

suffering of pain is alleviated with good karma and intensified with bad karma. basic eastern psychology. I think it works,
but not necessarily via re-incarnation into subsequent bodies.
it is particularly effective within the life span.

it is not so much about what happens, but how what happens is translated into feelings (particularly pain or pleasure).




Interesting. Never thought about it like that.


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: Frost]
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yeah, i think most people really have no idea what karma is, they just have this superstitious belief that they choose to acknowledge only when it will benefit them in some way.

and some people do nice shit only to preach about their fear of bad karma, which is entirely backwards.

its like clockwork orange. you begin to do seemingly decent things merely to avoid punishments for doing the bad things that you probably would do if you could get away with.

i was like that for a while...living in fear like that i mean...

then i was like damn, i don't even feel any of the love from doing good things to people! how fucking whack is that?

i would hold the door open for old ladies,not because they are frail and weak and it would take more effort of theirs than mine to open it, or because they would appreciate being respected and cared for by a person whom expects nothing in return. i would do it because my momma taught me that nice boys hold the door open for women and i want to be a nice boy.

to me, its bad karma to do good things to not get punished, or to do good things for the rewards.

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: NastyDHL]
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NastyDHL said:
i would hold the door open for old ladies

to me, its bad karma to do good things to not get punished, or to do good things for the rewards.



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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: deCypher]
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Mr. Cypher said:
NastyDHL said:
i would hold the door open for old ladies

to me, its bad karma to do good things to not get punished, or to do good things for the rewards.



i don't understand...




but anyway, i guess everything is for a reward, some are just egotistical which is where the bad karma comes in to play. wanting to believe you are a nice boy.

nowadays i hold the door open for old ladies cause it makes me feel good to see em smile and feel good :awesome:

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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: Connor4050]
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When you add reincarnation into the equation, karma incurred during past lives can cause repercussions in this life.

The reason that bad things happen to good people is because of actions performed in previous incarnations.

If you fucked someone over in a previous life, eventually that energy recycles into this one so that you experience a similar level of pain that you caused.

This is just my basic understanding of it.. I do think there is truth to our ideas of karma and reincarnation, but I also suspect our beliefs about how these things really work is somewhat off.

What we call karma is probably just our limited interpretation of something infinitely more complex and beyond our comprehension.


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Re: Karma, Do you believe in it? [Re: Adamist]
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so Hitlers next 2million or so reincarnations are really gonna suck...

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