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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: deCypher]
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Yet you still won't buy me a new camera  :emocry:


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Kickle]
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I know, right?!


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Kickle] * 1
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Kickle said:
Yet you still won't buy me a new camera  :emocry:


:suicide:

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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Kickle]
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Ah, well the point I'm trying to make is, one shouldn't cease having attachments with the goal of avoiding suffering.

If your goal is to avoid suffering, then that would be attachment to the concept that suffering is something entirely negative and needs to be steered away from.

If you just accept the suffering for what it is....then you can be attached to whatever you want, because you are fully aware of the fact that you might suffer as a result and are ready for it.

But maybe it is our definition of "attachment" that is varying here....


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: skatealex2]
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:dead:


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
But non-attachment is pretty simple.Statements like that are pure bs for most if not all humans who have a long history of culture training.


Your right, from the perspective of mind trying to be unattached, its completely impossible, all mind does is attach, thats what it does.
Its like asking fire to be wet.

From the perspective of awareness, there is no such thing as attachment.
Its an idea & nothing more, so from the perspective of awareness, its not even 'easy', its beyond easy

I sincerely apologize if this frustrates anyones mind, as it should
I can't feel guilty about it, as i know you are awareness not the mind


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Chronic7]
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Like I said.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Icelander]
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Chronic, I am completely and utterly frustrated by your posts.  :mad2:


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Kickle]
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Ah, well the point I'm trying to make is, one shouldn't cease having attachments with the goal of avoiding suffering.

Word. It's attachment to non-attachment for the purpose of avoiding suffering. Kinda what me and Chronic talked about earlier. Attaching to non-attachment =/= non-attachment.

And Ice, I say it's simple because the concept really is simple.
Putting it into practice can be very difficult.
But once you're there, it couldn't be easier.


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: deCypher]
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Mr. Cypher said:
Chronic, I am completely and utterly frustrated by your posts.  :mad2:


Your mind may be, but your awareness is fully intact
You are aware of frustration, no?


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Chronic7]
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Nah, I'm completely possessed by this animalistic emotion of rage and frustration, welling up deep inside...


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: deCypher]
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:lol:
Well it must be a fact that you are aware of frustration, or you could not even say 'i am frustrated'
You couldn't even say 'I'm' without first being aware
I don't believe you, youtube this frustration or it never happened!


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Chronic7]
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:mad2:


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: deCypher]
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Ok, if your seriously frustrated, it is a good thing, really
I wouldnt even be drawn to speak to you for the last few days if this wasn't the case...
Whatever happens on the surface, this meeting can not be inauspicious


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Chronic7]
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there are no coincidences :uhoh:


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Kickle]
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But once you're there, it couldn't be easier.

That's true of any kind of mastery. Look at concert pianists.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Icelander]
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I like the analogy :thumbup:

Id say this inquiry/contemplation i talk about is like that, you keep practicing bringing the attention back to focus on 'I'
Its starts with effort, but thins out into effortlessness
The more 'I' dissolves the more effortless existence is


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Chronic7]
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Very few have what it takes to become master pianists or master anything.

It's not easy even if you are in good emotional space. But there is natural talent or proclivity, and some get a big boost from that.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: Icelander]
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I am a jack of all trades and master of none.


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Re: Becoming unimportant. [Re: deCypher]
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I doubt you are even a jack of all trades.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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