deCypher said:

This is slightly off-putting that I plan to start all these yogic practices after the majority of these crazy energetic changes. 

BTW what is ninyama?  Couldn't find it with Google.

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well, that would be because i made a typo.

it's niyama (per the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali)

deff said:

hmmm i think ill just chime in to say one might want to be careful about treading along the LHP or seeking power - it can be very destructive i imagine and also not fulfilling

the 'goal' is to see beyond all illusory selfhood - RHP benefits the individual consciousness by forgetting about it - it is very very important imo to make initial efforts towards selfless benevolent motivations prior to getting serious with spiritual systems - even if another path on the surface appears more appealing

but its up to the individual (but be careful)

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Quote:

There is a direct connection between trance states, the
vibrational state, and Kundalini experiences. They are all natural
preludes to an authentic spiritual experience. Those who
are prepared for the intensity of these states of consciousness
will often experience a rich spiritual connection. Those who
are uninformed about trance and vibrational states of consciousness
and inexperienced with them are often startled by
the energy of the experience; many report being frozen with
fear and prematurely ending their pending out-of-body adventure.
The key to moving beyond this fear is the accumulation
of accurate information and knowledge. Simply put: The
more prepared you are for the phenomena that occur immediately
before a spiritual experience, the greater the potential
results.

The vibrational state is generally identified with any phenomena
that occur immediately before an out-of-body experience.
These include vibrations, strange energy sensations and
surges, sounds, and paralysis. This state is commonly reported
to begin at the head, neck, and stomach areas and then spread
to envelop the entire body. The vibrations are often accompanied
by numbness, paralysis, and noises such as a buzzing, humming,
voices, or a roaring sound. The intensity and duration of
these phenomena varies tremendously. It should be noted that
the vibrational state energies are often reported during
Kundalini experiences and trance states of consciousness. In
fact, the lines between the three often blur beyond recognition.

From William Buhlman's The Secret of the Soul

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deCypher said:

deff said:

hmmm i think ill just chime in to say one might want to be careful about treading along the LHP or seeking power - it can be very destructive i imagine and also not fulfilling

the 'goal' is to see beyond all illusory selfhood - RHP benefits the individual consciousness by forgetting about it - it is very very important imo to make initial efforts towards selfless benevolent motivations prior to getting serious with spiritual systems - even if another path on the surface appears more appealing

but its up to the individual (but be careful)

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If one understands the nature of the LHP one will understand that morality does not exist.

In my humble opinion, of course... RHP does ultimately serve society but society is taking a long time to catch up with it.

(just some unnecessarily polarized comment)

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sorry, didn't mean to come across as ignorant or biased

but my understanding is that the LHP involves black magic and the accumulation of power for ones own benefit. while i don't believe in objective morality or 'sin' myself - i believe that can be quite dangerous (both in the sense that seeking power seems dangerous to the individual [as in not leading to eternal fulfillment], as well as the karmic responses (and subjective morality) against hurting/controlling others)

but i haven't really read much about magic or RHP/LHP so i may be totally off the mark here

Lion said:

I don't know enough about this stuff to know if this is relevant, but I used to attend a Vajrayana Buddhist center regularly, and I once heard someone say that normal Buddhist practice is like a steady bicycle that leads you down the path to liberation through many lifetimes -- but Vajrayana is for people who can't wait that long to liberate all sentient beings, and want to be strapped up to a high-volt charge and turned loose.  It's more intense and painful, but faster.  This is definitely a distinct model from what you're describing, but I see some parallels.

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