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ℚṲℰϟ✞ЇѺℵ ℛ∃Åʟḯ†У Registered: 11/23/01 Posts: 10,211 Loc: Bloomington, IN Last seen: 8 years, 2 months |
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El Collie 2002 One thing that comes out in myths is that at the bottom of the abyss comes the voice of salvation. The black moment is the moment when the real message of transformation is going to come. At the darkest moment comes the light. -- Joseph Campbell Some parts of the spiritual journey feel as if we're lost in a wasteland, not knowing where we are or where we're going, and wondering if we're just traveling in circles. For long stretches of the journey, the quest requires great self-investment for seemingly little in return. For individuals who adhere to a particular spiritual discipline, commitment wavers during these dry spells. For those in whom the Kundalini has autonomously risen, there is no alternative, no possibility of backing out. Kundalini has Her own unstoppable momentum. At times, despite the dynamism of this Force that has reshaped our destiny, we sink into doubt. What began in fear or amazement has gone through seasons of joy, hope, disillusionment, and despair. When, we ask ourselves, does the process bear significant fruit? How long must we suffer through the daily pummeling of body and psyche? As weeks turn into months and years, our faith in the benevolence and guiding presence of the Spirit is sorely tested. Radiant gifts of bliss, beauty and unmistakable blessing are overshadowed by long sieges of pain, torment and physical/emotional depletion. Even if we want to surrender to the workings of the process, often we do not know how. Charles Breaux says that after an initial six months of "incredible 'peak experience,' the dross began spewing out" into his external life. He wrote: "These last seven years have been one intense drama after another, the deepest and darkest karmic patterns within me have been relentlessly quickened by the power of Kundalini." At the end of his book Journey into Consciousness, he confesses that he continues to wonder if the necessity for letting go will ever cease. Kundalini can give us wings to transcend the pettiness of the world, then plunge us into the depths, daring us to find the treasure buried there as well. In the beginning, when the Kundalini is moving upwards, Dr. R.P. Kaushik said "it is a negative force -- it is destructive. It destroys all your attachments, all your material possessions; it is destroying everything," which can lead to "a dissatisfaction with everything you have." Kaushik notes that such feelings of frustration and desperation intensify as the energy works to clear through the six and seventh centers. "The yogis have described this movement in a beautiful language," he continues: "The serpent, when it awakens, starts devouring and eating everything that is in its way. When it has gone to the crown center, then from there it descends downwards, as a creative force -- the descending triangle or the Shakti triangle. This is the positive movement..." (from The Ultimate Transformation) Spells of depression are a common feature of the transformational journey. I am, in fact, in a funk as I write this. At times I doubt the value of writing anything for this site and question the benefits of Kundalini. From where I sit at this moment, it seems as if years of the process -- and of my life in general, for that matter -- have been little more than an endurance test. In The Stormy Search for the Self, Christina and Stanislav Grof describe it well: "Not only do those facing such an existential crisis feel isolated, but they also feel insignificant, like useless specks in a vast cosmos. The universe itself appears to be absurd and pointless, and any human activities seem trivial. Such people may see humankind as being involved in a rat-race existence that has no useful purpose. From this vantage point, they cannot see any kind of cosmic order and have no contact with a spiritual force. They may become extremely depressed, despairing, and even suicidal. Frequently, they have the insight that even suicide is no solution; it seems there is no way out of their misery." For many of us, the splendor of spiritual awakening has been comparatively short-lived while the time spent suspended in pain seems interminable. Yet this is the nature of the shamanic path. Of the countless interviews and autobiographies I've read, the two most repeated words to issue from the mouths of shamans are "spirit" and "suffering." Shamanic Dismemberment Give me everything mangled and bruised, And I will make a light of it to make you weep. And we will have rain, And begin again. -- Deena Metzger, Leavings A woman experiencing a lengthy Kundalini awakening told me of a period where she was having frequent nightmares from which she awoke screaming. All these terrible dreams had the same theme: "they" were hacking her to pieces. Eventually, these dreams began to change, and instead of being chopped up, dream figures were putting her back together in a way that made her -- like the Bionic man -- "better and stronger" than ever before. This is a shamanic dismemberment experience, a symbolic transformational drama which has been recognized in the wisdom traditions from time immemorial. In Sumerian mythology, Inanna was a sky goddess who had to pass through seven gates of the underworld, each time being stripped of deeper parts of her being until she was naked and lifeless. In the book, Shaman's Path, Rowena Pattee describes the Egyptian enactment of this drama in the myth of Osiris, the pharaoh who was slain, dismembered and supernaturally resurrected to conceive his son Horus. In the Greek mystery religions, Pattee says that "Dionysus was torn to pieces by the Titans while his heart was rescued by Athena, goddess of wisdom, suggestive of the wisdom born of the dismemberment experience." In these ancient stories, something magnificent and creatively abundant occurs after the original being is broken apart. These myths infer that all creation is the result of a single divine Self which has been sacrificially fragmented. The Inuit Indians of the Arctic celebrate Takanakapsaluk, the dismembered goddess whose severed parts form all the creatures of the sea. And in pre-Aztec religion, the earth itself was created out of the dismembered parts of the goddess Tlalteuctli. As the myth goes, ever since she was torn apart and turned into the earth, Tlalteuctli she has wept and cannot be consoled accept through the "blood" of torn open (i.e., spiritually consecrated) human hearts. "To sacrifice our hearts," says Kate Duff, "is not to give ourselves away, but to keep ourselves true, by freeing our hearts from distraction and realigning ourselves with our appointed destinies. Ironically, we often find our true selves, and engage our souls, when our hearts are broken, bleeding or sacrificed." (from The Alchemy of Illness) Those of us who are being transformed may have graphic dreams or visions of being brutally cut up or torn apart. This phase may be preceded (or accompanied) by visions or dreams of catastrophic disasters, such as earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, nuclear holocaust, etc. Our primordial fears are triggered by these scenarios. Unfortunately, some of us also have literal dismemberment experiences when the Kundalini is purifying our bodies and psyches. Our bones, joints, vertebrae, internal organs, eyes or other parts of the body may be gravely affected by the process. Serious injuries or diseases may occur which seem to be permanently destroying us. Our very survival seems to hang by a thread. Kundalini researcher Tontyn Hopman reminds us that "awakening encompasses both the state of being in harmony with the Tao and the knife-edged path with its violent purifications and sudden, catastrophic perils." The dangers of the path are not illusory, he tells us: "Everything may really be at stake... The Spirit knows no half measures or lukewarm adjustments. How else could a person be transformed except through the most intense experiences?" Anyone who has suffered a serious illness knows what a nightmare long term disability and chronic pain can be. In some cases, other personal crises such as deaths of family members or friends -- which sometimes occur in uncanny clusters around the individual with risen Kundalini -- are the hardest part of the process. Sickness, injuries, and loss of loved ones are human ordeals that eventually confront us all, no matter what our Kundalini status may be. But it does seem that the risen Kundalini increases the likelihood of crisis in our lives. The Shakti Goddess will utilize everything possible to shake us up, break us open and pare us down, casting off everything we thought we had or knew or were. Says Holger Kalweit: "Many shamans were critically ill, socially unacceptable, and psychically confused over periods of several years; during their time of suffering their body and psyche adjusted themselves to an alternate mode of perception. This continuous biopsychic process of transformation often culminates in experiences of dismemberment, which represent the zenith and turning point of inner change toward a spiritual state of being." (from Dreamtime & Inner Space) At its deepest level, the dismemberment experience dismantles our old identity. It is a powerful death and rebirth process. The experience of being stripped to bone forces us to examine the bare essence of what we are. The divestment of everything superfluous is a fierce teaching. We learn what is truly important and what is nonessential to our physical, emotional, mental and spiritual survival. Loss impresses upon us the temporal nature of life. Especially if we are ill, we are forced to let go of things precious to us. These sacrifices, says Kate Duff, may take the form of "our savings, marriage, mobility, or pride, even our own flesh and blood." Through these losses, "we are reminded that nothing lasts forever or belongs to us; everything comes from and returns to an original source." In the most intense phases of transformation, we may be so disoriented or physically ill that we need to be helped with even our most personal needs. There have been periods in my process when simply crossing a room felt like scaling Mt. Olympias. A psychic I consulted when I was having a hard time with Kundalini symptoms insisted that I "get a business card" and immediately set myself up as a healer. You've got to be kidding, I thought. In the shape I was in, I wouldn't have been able to hold a job as a paperweight. A more spiritual way of looking at the situation is expressed by the meditation teacher, Shinzen Young: "If Nature (or 'God') has given you so much pain that you cannot do anything else other than be with it, then there is a message here: you are not expected to be doing anything else! In other words, spending time -- even long periods of time -- just feeling pain is a legitimate calling in the eyes of God and Nature. Assuming that you are making at least some effort to purify and evolve consciousness by being with pain in a skillful way, you are engaged in productive and meaningful work." (from Break Through Pain) Young goes on to say that not only is this inner work valuable for us as individuals; it is also a psychic contribution to the rest of the world: "...whenever a person does something, it makes it easier for others to do that thing, even though the others may have no direct contact with or even knowledge of the original person's work... According to this theory, a person isolated and cut off from contacts, who is working to purify through pain, is in some way making it easier to all other sufferers in the world to do the same; a worthwhile and meaningful job indeed!" With this understanding, Young encourages us to "sacramentalize" our pain by regarding it "as a kind of imposed monastery or sacred ceremony." Anthropologist and mystic Felicitas D. Goodman notes that Siberian shamans regarded dismemberment as an essential phase of initiation for healers. To her surprise, Goodman discovered that this archetype seems universal. In her trance work with Westerners, those who had spontaneous dismemberment visions were invariably destined to become various kinds of healers. The world around us falling apart in times of crisis parallels the psychological fragmentation which already exists within us. "One of the major themes in the literature on the transformation of consciousness is the notion that the disjointed, separated, fragmented parts of the psyche can be and need to be synthesized into a harmonious, integrated whole," Ralph Metzner reminds us. Often it isn't until our life is in shambles that we become aware of the parts of ourselves which have become dispossessed. "In the core of our being we are singular and unified; at the surface of our interactions with the world, we are multiple and dispersed," says Metzner. "In transformation we seek to recover that original unity." (from The Unfolding Self) This is precisely the task of shaman, as Joan Halifax explains: "The shaman is a healed healer who has retrieved the broken pieces of his or her body and psyche and, through a personal rite of transformation, has integrated many planes of life experience: the body and the spirit, the ordinary and nonordinary, the individual and the community, nature and supernature, the mythic and the historical, the past, the present and the future." (from Shamanic Voices) Completing this restorative rite is serious business for the soul. Says Kalweit: "The lonely struggle with the forces of nature, during which one is at their mercy for better or worse, is a requirement of shamanic training, because only when the apprentice becomes aware of his smallness and helplessness, when he becomes modest and humble, can his spirit blend with these tremendous forces. An awareness of the interwoven mystical unity of nature is an essential experience during initiation of of the shamanic view of the world in general." "The cure for dismemberment," says Metzner, "is re-membering: remembering who we actually are." As Halifax puts it: "To bring back to an original state that which was in primordial times whole and is now broken and dismembered is not only an act of unification but also a divine remembrance of a time when a complete reality existed." The positive side of the dismemberment experience is that it eventually leads to a "resurrection" -- a higher state of spiritual development. The darkness which had seemed endless and impenetrable is at long last revealed to be simply a very hard passage -- the proverbial tunnel, at the end of which is a beautiful, welcoming light. The Long Haul All of this wisdom evaporates pretty fast when one is suffering. Yet I've noticed that my darkest periods frequently precede a breakthrough of some sort. They seem to be a means of emptying me so something new can fill my cup. A longing for death can mean that we are approaching a turning point. We have reached a place of nothingness which seems barren but is in actuality a realm of dormancy, a wintering of the soul without which there can be no spring. "Right before a change, we encounter all our obstacles to that change," counsels Caroline Casey. "This is known as a `sunset effect': as the pattern goes down, it glows most vividly." (from Making the Gods Work for You) Everything that lives follows its own internal rhythms of growth and decline. The Kundalini process also develops in cycles of expansion and contraction. The state of expansion may give us a taste of the eternal, but we're not home free. As Roberto Assagioli says: "Such an exalted state lasts for varying periods, but it is bound to cease... The inflow of light and love is rhythmical as is everything in the universe. After a while it diminishes or ceases and the flood is followed by the ebb." (from Psychosynthesis) It can help to understand that the first stage of any transformational process is chaos. Things blow up, fall apart, go berserk. In alchemy, this chaotic phase is referred to as the prima materia which forms the basis of the work which will eventually produce the "gold" -- the desired outcome (or spiritual treasure). "The prima materia is in a state of conflict all the time," astrologer Liz Greene explains, "blind, potent, undirected, but full of raw power and constantly embattled." (from Dynamics of the Unconscious) When we find ourselves in this initial phase of transformation, everything is precarious. The old anchors and safety nets no longer hold. We feel confused, miserable, hopeless. Cultures more attuned to the cycles of nature regarded adversity as a possibility for growth. The Chinese word for crisis is wei-chi, meaning a perilous opportunity. Often, the more radical the transformation, the more severe the crisis which precedes it. Shamans and spiritual teachers have long understood this principle: the greater the initiation crisis, the greater the potential for beneficial growth. As Z. Budapest puts it: "Turmoil is fertile soil necessary for the soul to find eternal wisdom, insights, and eventual peace of mind." Of course, there are no guarantees. Initiation is never totally predictable or safe. The glamorous idea that Kundalini initiation is an internal refuge of bliss is quite misleading. More often, as Alice Bailey warned, our initiations are expensive rites of passage, bringing upon us "increasing work and increasing responsibility." "Lest we have considered difficulties and darknesses for too long and become a little dismayed," advises Michal Eastcott, "let us remind our selves that the truth of this promise is always before us every night -- it is then, in the darkness, that we see the stars." (from I : The Story of the Self) In Fire in the Soul, Joan Borysenko says that "crisis resolves in one of three ways." The ordeal may end when "we slowly put ourselves back together again and life goes on in the same overtly or vaguely unsatisfactory way that it did before," or "we become so terrified, agitated or depressed that we commit suicide or stay in the desert of mental illness; or we come out transformed, emerging with a new strength, wisdom and vision." This third and most healing possibility is the great alchemical "secret." On the heels of chaos comes a developmental restructuring. This is paralleled in Nobel Prize winner Ilya Prigogine's discovery that large perturbations of energy cause living systems to fall apart, then re-coalesce in a more elegant order. "First destruction, then creation -- this is the way of the Goddess, the Shakti," says Vicki Noble. "The fire burns through the old structures, eradicating them, transmuting their energies to a higher vibrational level." (from Shakti Woman). Or, as Deepak Chopra expresses it, "...life shows itself as a miracle of renewal. All the order that dissolves into chaos comes back as another kind of order." But this new pattern is rarely apparent immediately; more often, it comes into being in fits and starts. We begin to notice something shifting in our perception and response to life. Some of these changes are dramatic and extraordinary; some are more subtle and vaguely familiar, as though lost or atrophied parts of ourselves are reemerging. Sometimes our initiation is one of joyful expansion, heralded by a sense of soul-elating freedom. Feelings are intense and we are hyper-energized, immersed in sublime experiences and soul-nurishing realizations. Although we may be soaring out of control, we have no doubt that we're in flight. There is a breathtaking sense of being swept into the numinous, carried aloft by fantastic forces. In the expansion stage, particularly in an intense Kundalini awakening, the manifestations are so powerful that we are ripped away from our ordinary concerns. In the contraction stage, we may feel more grounded, but so also may our usual fears and troubles come flooding back, often amplified because we may be in a worse predicament than before the process began. It may seem like we've made no progress at all. We may feel ourselves physically or mentally deteriorating in a terrifying way, and fear that we've fallen from grace as well. Whether it comes on like a sudden crash or takes hold more gradually, contraction has an anticlimactic tone. Things seem to fall into a state of decline. If the expansion state seemed fraught with significance, the contraction phase may be characterized by oppressive meaninglessness. We may still feel the spiritual process at work within us, but now the dazzling perks are gone. No more epiphanies, no more beautiful visitations, no amazing signs of divine intervention. Depression deepens into despair as we watch the magic of our recent transcendent experiences slipping into a self-doubting fog. Like a little child checking the mirror every day to see if he has grown, we keep taking inventory of our condition, searching for any positive changes. The whole thing may seem like some kind of cosmic joke on us. We may begin to seriously question if we are truly in a transformational process at all. Are we hopeless cases, beyond redemption? Has something gone sour with the process itself? The expansion stages are generally shorter than the contracted states which may seem to drag on forever. But this is also the natural rhythm. As the contraction stage continues to pull us lower and lower, we can easily feel as if we are "losing it." Our past conditioning and the opinions of those around us may work very much against us in this phase. Such painful experiences are roundly condemned, as Marc Ian Barasch observes, "in a culture that celebrates surfaces, speed, and success... We try at all costs to resist our descent, because we believe that once we hit bottom, there will be no return." (from The Healing Path) But if we allow ourselves to be drawn into this dark chasm, at the very nadir of futility and anguish, the process shifts once more. After wrestling through a personal health ordeal that included two bouts with cancer, Paul Pearsall concluded: "Having gone through my own best and worst times, I am convinced that there is an order in our living, and like the matter and antimatter or the quantum world, for every magic moment of insight and celebration, there are 'antimoments' of pain and fear." (from Making Miracles) "The law of chaotic order" says Pearsall, "suggests that chaos -- the actual process of disorder -- is healthy in and of itself. The universe is not a beautiful balance; it is a chaotic miracle." With this in mind, he remarks that "We can live our life in dread of future problems, or we can accept the fact that we could not exist if we were not, like all of the cosmos, in the process of constant change and remember that the definition of the word dread is not only "fear and apprehension" but also "deep awe and reverence." External crises and their emotional counterparts often serve to release us from everything which prevents us from living authentically. Remember Pavlov and the dogs he trained to salivate at the sound of a bell? When his laboratory was destroyed in a flood, none of the surviving dogs retained their conditioning! "When our souls are on fire," says Joan Borysenko, "old beliefs and opinions can be consumed, bringing us closer to our essential nature and to the heart of healing." At last, new ways of thinking, perceiving, relating, responding and being take shape from our very core. As Elizabeth Kubler-Ross puts it, we emerge "polished" from the "tumbler" of our ordeals. And as long as we are incarnate on this planet, we will continue this process of spiritual refinement. At intervals, the entire cycle begins again, dissolving and re-crystallizing, waxing and waning. We are being inwardly tempered. It can help to remember this when we find ourselves in the more difficult parts of the process. It's all necessary, it's all purposeful. Transformation isn't an easy, lightning flash switch. That's why awakening is called a journey -- it takes time to reach the destination. There will be many challenging times ahead of us. Our souls and our faith will be tested. The resultant suffering is part of the universal curriculum. "Adversity marks the history of all the saints and world-servers, and the story of Job is proverbial, wrote Michal Eastcott. "Yet still, when we come under the shadow of these periods, we are apt to forget they are part of the communion of saints, and are a necessary time of preparation and building of fortitude..." "The active germination of a growth process often takes place at the low, seemingly negative, phases of a psychological cycle," says psychologist Ira Progoff. "Thus, at the very time when the most constructive developments are taking place within a person, his outer appearance may be depressed, confused, and even disturbed." Our understanding of this process can help us better cope with our experiences. "The birth and characteristics of the new self are determined in large part by the stories we tell ourselves about why the time of darkness has come," says Joan Borysenko. "If we have a strong belief that our suffering is in the service of growth, dark night experiences can lead us to depths of psychological and spiritual healing and revelation that we literally could not have dreamed of and that are difficult to describe in words without sounding trite." The Buddhists have long understood the art of embracing the vicissitudes of life as just part of the ongoing parade. Says Tarthang Tulka: "Learning to 'flow' with our experience gives us true stability and freedom. When we discover change as the real nature of existence, our old conception of the world seems dwarfed and limited. Our world comes alive; we are whole again. A new reality emerges from the old, like a phoenix out of fire." (from Openness Mind) Rachel Naomi Remen comments upon the paradoxical truth that "The less we are attached to life, the more alive we can become." In letting go of what we thought we couldn't live without, we become more deeply able to participate in life. This is not to say that we will all live happily ever after. "Waking up entails remembering your whole self in the midst of trance states and problems and making sense out of them," Arnold Mindell reminds us. "It does not mean being without problems." In his book Imagick, Ted Andrews correlates the Kundalini process with what he calls the "13th Path" of the Qabalistic tradition. In the Tarot, he relates it to the archetype of the High Priestess. "It is a bittersweet path," he warns, and one that presents us with "a tremendous test of faith." On this path (which is also called "Gateway to Knowledge"), after being divested of all nonessentials and overcoming our karmic obstacles, we are able to discover our deepest truths. "This is the path of the final dark night of the soul journey," says Andrews. "It is here that we have the opportunity to awaken our strongest intuition and ... to impregnate ourselves with the light and love of the divine!" ***
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"I like happiness as much as the next guy, but it's not happiness that sends one in search of truth. It's rabid, feverish, clawing madness to stop being a lie, regardless of price, come heaven or hell. This isn't about higher consciousness or self-discovery or heaven on earth. This is about blood-caked swords and Buddha's rotting head and self-immolation, and anyone who says otherwise is selling something they don't have."
Spiritual Enlightenment: The Damnedest Thing, Page: 26 "Wait a minute. Hold everything. How many of you think that? How many of you equate enlightenment with bliss or ecstasy or rapture or whatever? Hands up." Several of them raise their hands. Mary, who was asking about Zen, doesn't raise her hand. A couple of others who I know are already beyond the First Step don't raise their hands either, but nearly a dozen do. I'm not surprised by this but I wish to use it as a springboard into a larger and more interesting topic. I stand up and begin pacing back and forth across the fire from them. I give it a minute, let a little suspense build, and then let it out. "Fuck bliss." Several jaws drop. "Bliss is nothing. It's not relevant. It's a pretty piece of candy that has lured you away from the real work of waking up. Get it out of your heads. I can't emphasize this enough. This is right at the very heart of the web of misconception that diverts countless millions of seekers away from their own awakening. This is exactly the kind of narcotic you have to break free of. "Now, pay attention. The way to get something out of your head isn't to hear some spiritual teacher say it's bullshit. It's for you to drag it out and really shine a light on it for yourself. This bliss nonsense is a perfect example. Do you really think that enlightenment is going to be like a permanently extended sexual orgasm?" Muffled titters and chuckles. "Think about it. Think for yourself. That's the Golden Rule in this game: Think for yourself." I pause to let that thought find a home. "Enlightenment is not a peak experience. It is not a neverending cosmic orgasm. It is not an altered state of consciousness. It's not a happily-ever-after fairy tale. It's just waking up - as simple and as difficult as that. We've all been sold on the idea of an everlasting spiritual high that we can never know except in flashes and glimpses of which the mind cannot even retain a memory. That's the opiate and the masses are sucking it up. Permanent bliss is just heaven repackaged for a slightly hipper crowd. "The larger issue here is how such a bizarre belief found it's way into your heads in the first place. That should be a pretty scary thought. If that foolish notion was so firmly rooted in your thinking, what else is in there? If you're thoughts and beliefs aren't your own, then who are you? You must re-examine your assumptions, and believe me, only a small fraction of them are visible. Unchallenged acceptance can define you and alter the course of your life. For instance, maybe the whole reason you're on a spiritual quest in the first place is because of the unchallenged belief that this path ends in a permanent state of super-dooper happiness. Maybe you don't really want to go where this really leads. Maybe you're just in it for the fairy tale. I would guess that that is true of over ninety-nine percent of all spiritual seekers." I look around and see everyone staring at me wide-eyed. Is my zipper open? "Think for yourself. That's the real golden rule. Think for yourself. Make it your mantra. Tattoo it on the inside of your eyelids." Spiritual Enlightenment - The Damnedest Thing ![]()
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ℚṲℰϟ✞ЇѺℵ ℛ∃Åʟḯ†У Registered: 11/23/01 Posts: 10,211 Loc: Bloomington, IN Last seen: 8 years, 2 months |
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(Yeah I have an addiction to blissful experiences...
)That guy's pretty funny. Edited by Adamist (11/26/09 10:49 PM)
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Registered: 07/11/99 Posts: 8,396 |
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Better than an addiction to crack.
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What good is knowledge if it doesn't bring bliss?
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Stranger Registered: 12/16/08 Posts: 223 Last seen: 12 years, 8 months |
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Quote: Eventually the bliss is overwhelming and becomes a burden on daily functioning. -------------------- “The person lives most beautifully who does not reflect upon existence” - Friedrich Nietzsche "Change my mind so much I can't even trust it. My mind changes me so much I can't even trust myself."
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no it doesn't!Im all for not chasing bliss, but happiness is not a burden in the slightest If anything its the lack of burdens True knowledge does bring bliss, who truly knowing thier eternal Self, would not be happy? It is happiness itself
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Strangest Registered: 06/13/09 Posts: 424 Last seen: 8 years, 9 months |
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Thanks for posting this. I recently went through what I suppose was a Kundalini awakening - as I felt like I was trippin' for about a month solid. Every turn was filled with new insight and awesome synchronicity... sustained bliss on a level I've never experienced before...
Then my whole world fell apart... haha! Lost my job, family/friends thought I went "over the rainbow", and I spiraled downward into winter's cold darkness. I can relate with a lot of the OP, so it's good to know this little depression I've been experiencing is all a part of the process. I've gone through "ups and downs" before, but I seriously thought I had finally "made it" for about a month. When I "lost it", I was worried if I'd ever find that bliss again. I've definitely been contemplating death a lot recently, not because I would actually kill myself, but because I feel like the OP described - just completely lost/baffled with my experience and what I'm supposed to be doing here. Good to see there may be a light at the end of the tunnel. Can't wait for springtime again
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Audiomancer Registered: 07/27/06 Posts: 453 Last seen: 12 years, 3 months |
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Quote: I hear that. 8)
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ℚṲℰϟ✞ЇѺℵ ℛ∃Åʟḯ†У Registered: 11/23/01 Posts: 10,211 Loc: Bloomington, IN Last seen: 8 years, 2 months |
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Fuck it, I'm going to bump this 6 month old thread because I just re-read the entire thing and feel deeply inspired by it.
I've gone through a complete spontaneous Kundalini awakening when I was younger, and I've been dealing with it ever since. It is a part of me, and every time I trip, it tends to show itself again, if only in a partial form. I know that I am here to learn to integrate this chaotic, potent energy of the Universe into my being. All of my life I've felt these impulses, and every day I feel pulled to a different part of the spectrum. I'm convinced that virtually everyone diagnosed with "bi-polar disorder" is having fluctuating Kundalini energy disrupting their internal balance. I feel like I'm being taken to the heights of heaven and the depths of hell for a reason, a purpose... I'm being tempered for what's coming.
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Peace Registered: 03/01/09 Posts: 2,897 Last seen: 9 years, 9 months |
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That was awesome. Thank you for pulling that up from the records.
Good timing -------------------- ![]() If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.
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Registered: 07/06/09 Posts: 495 Last seen: 10 years, 4 months |
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Quote: Another bump for this old thread- sorry if that's not kosher. Playapez, how you doing this spring??
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𓂀⟁𓅢𓍝𓅃𓊰𓉡 𓁼𓆗⨻ Registered: 09/16/08 Posts: 11,953 |
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Thanks for bumping this, it is greatly appreciated and especially well written and cited.
My initial dismemberment experience was the most terrifying thing in my life. I went to sleep and felt like I woke up. I was strapped down on a bloody wooden table with all sorts of ghoulies and monsters around me. The head guy comes over (looks like what I would call satan) with a huge butcher knife. He grabs my balls and tells me that I won't be needing these and slices them off. It felt all to vivid and real, and I woke up with my heart pounding out of my chest. I was in job corps at the time and had a room with like 3 other guys, all of them were asleep and it was dark. I open my eyes and hear a sound like Chii, chii. chii, chii. And look too see what it is, and it is the PS2 door opening and closing by itself. I know what you mean Adamist, sometimes it feels like a lot of work. beckoning the fire to calm does little good and must dealt with, regardless of the moment that it occurs. I don't regret anything now, I have done enough of that to last a lifetime. It does feel more free, although not completely free by any means. Then again, it is more freedom than I have ever known. There becomes a sense of responsibility, for me, that is beyond any personal whims or desires. The awakening is but the beginning. Thank you for writing that, and I do find it inspiring. (gods and godesses aside) Regardless of the stage one is working with, I think wisdom can be found in those words that you presented. I especially liked this excerpt " Young goes on to say that not only is this inner work valuable for us as individuals; it is also a psychic contribution to the rest of the world: "...whenever a person does something, it makes it easier for others to do that thing, even though the others may have no direct contact with or even knowledge of the original person's work... According to this theory, a person isolated and cut off from contacts, who is working to purify through pain, is in some way making it easier to all other sufferers in the world to do the same; a worthwhile and meaningful job indeed!" This is a glimmer of light enshrouded in a darkness. Looking back, it was and is all worth it. I still find myself resisting what I know needs to be done at times, even though it will be inevitably done. Helpless freedom, hehe.
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𓂀⟁𓅢𓍝𓅃𓊰𓉡 𓁼𓆗⨻ Registered: 09/16/08 Posts: 11,953 |
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The only thing I don't really like is the idea of initiate. This seems to imply that there is an initiator, which I personally haven't found to be true. As well as calling this idea the path of a shaman, which sort of implies a specific kind of person, when it is really anyone and everyone, I think. I don't have time to go find exactly which paragraph I'm referring too, because I'm delaying the inevitable again as it is, and want to do this homework. Just an after thought I had before I was going to close the browser.
Peace!
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Stranger Registered: 04/23/11 Posts: 1 Last seen: 12 years, 20 days |
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Went through a K awakening that has been 24/7 since 2006. Its had several levels to it. I see a lot of people getting stuck in the initial stages. Its work, but a kind of work that is not mental or intellectual. Its feeling work. You have to feel into it. And as for the bliss, the ONLY thing that makes all of this darkn night of the soul stuff worth it is the promise of the bliss. But here is the thing; the bliss is not something outside of us. Its US. But we have to remove the dross. Its all the stuff covering you. Karma. Attachment. The bliss is a decision to surrender. When you do, you fall into the soul space.
The "rare" heart opening can happen often. I have had enough where I have observed carefully as they happened and what I observed was each time something inside of me decided to let go. It was like you lived your life with your hand curled into a fist. Feels perfectly natural, except it isn't! In fact, its alien, ut only in this messed up world do we think of it as normal, so anyone with an open hand is like some weird creature because its so rare! But no, its a DECISION that you make and its deep inside of you, so deep that its hard to even know its there. But it is. And its a beautiful part of you. Its hard to wrap your head around it because your head has nothing to do with it! TIme to shift this paradigm. YOU are the bliss. If you are able to tap into yourself without the bullshit positions that you wrap yourself in daily, that we wrap ourselves in daily, you might just transform your field of awareness....which is not just body and mind but heart and energy and higher consciousness. YOU are the bliss. But its your work to get through it. Kundalini will rev up so much freakin bliss....and then that is when the adrenals kick in, the fear hormone. Then the dark night comes. And if you can go through those dark nights and learn to surrender....you begin to slowly get this monster under control. But the thing here is not to give up prematurely. We have ten thousand years of this bullshit paternalistic path that has been about bloodshed and tears. So its "work." Go beyond the initial bliss and dark night...because the physiology of this is such that it has to stir things up in you. Has to. Lifetimes of crap gets stirred up. And how we let go of these ties to our junk is through grace. Its not a thinking thing AT ALL. You can think about it, but the doing often comes in moments of terrible states of desperation. But if you stick with it, its as hard as you make it on yourself. Ultimately this is leanring how to get out of your head, where you get lost, and into feeling. Feeling has the ability to contemplate the larger infinite and FEEL the bliss that is your soul. Forget the artificial means. You open the kundalini through the root. Opening elsewhere is a kind of cheat and bypasses the work you have to do to refine. Compassion and love is important in all of this. Breathe breathe of fire, do ecstatic dance to shake off the lower energy beings that attach to your lower level vibrations and help keep you enmeshed there, and then imagine the energy rising upwards and trust..... It will get better. Surrender. Inside is the perfect being, but you have to get through the junk of a thousand years to find it.
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Strangest Registered: 06/13/09 Posts: 424 Last seen: 8 years, 9 months |
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kundal - welcome to the site, I'm so glad you signed up to share that with us! I really enjoyed reading it, it's always comforting to hear from someone that's experienced such things and have words of encouragement to bring back from it.
Quote: I'm doing great, thanks for asking ![]() I've come out of my winter depression. I'm still kind of stagnant with my spiritual growth and personal growth in general, but I'm much more content. I may be too complacent, in fact, but at least I accept where/who I am rather than beat myself up about it. I still look back and wonder how I could lose my mind for such a long period only to find it again.
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no it doesn't!

If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.

