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So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession?
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Bc yea i smoke these babies all the time and i guess i should prolly know what the punishment is for having them just in case some recognizes them and is a narc, or a cop.


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: whatdidusay]
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Illegal?  I could have sworn I saw them being sold at the head shop like a week or two ago.  Why/where are they illegal?


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: DirtMcgirt]
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i thought they were only illegal to sell, not possess


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: DirtMcgirt]
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lol they're still being sold in California.....

until 2010, I heard.


and the penalty? LIFE IN PRISON.


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: whatdidusay]
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Ugh...  they're not illegal.  They've been banned.  Along with the words "light" and "mild" when referring to cigarettes. 

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/06/22/obama-signstobacco-bill/

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1256&version=enr&nid=t0%3Aenr%3A335


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: kanglow]
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kanglow said:
Ugh...  they're not illegal.  They've been banned.  Along with the words "light" and "mild" when referring to cigarettes. 

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/06/22/obama-signstobacco-bill/

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1256&version=enr&nid=t0%3Aenr%3A335



so whats ban meen again? illegal to sell? but not to possess or use?


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: whatdidusay]
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it's quite simple.

"ban" is the opposite of "ran".


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: Neuron]
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Neuron said:
it's quite simple.

"ban" is the opposite of "ran".



im lost.:shrug:


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: whatdidusay]
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The ban is to prevent the tobacco companies from marketing to children.  Flavored tobacco crosses the line, according to the government.

If you, as an adult, are smoking them though, it's fine. 

Personally I think tobacco is stupid so it's fine with me xD

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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
Personally I think tobacco is stupid so it's fine with me xD


daaamn good thing you said that

i almost didn't know your opinions for a second there


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: kanglow]
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Whats the point?  Haven't we beaten the tobacco industry enough?  Can't we start banning corn syrup or bicyclists who cut in front of me when I'm going 50?


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
The ban is to prevent the tobacco companies from marketing to children.  Flavored tobacco crosses the line, according to the government.

If you, as an adult, are smoking them though, it's fine. 

Personally I think tobacco is stupid so it's fine with me xD


yea i dont smoke for the nicotine. its just a pleasurable relaxing activity for me, possibly explainign why i only smoke cloves, they smell good, they give me a nice floaty feeling, and they relax me. the same goes for dip. i do it for the head rush and the euphoric feelings and the taste and the activity.

maybe i do them both for the nicotine some here and there but not like an addiction would have you doing them.


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: DirtMcgirt]
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The bicyclist cutting in front of you has been banned.  That's illegal.

There is documentation that the tobacco companies do attempt to market to all people, including children.

Strawberry flavored cigarettes were banned, and so were bubblegum flavored cigarettes.  Do you think *those* were marketed towards adults?  Cloves just got grouped into that category when the ban was written up.  Flavored cigarettes (with the exception of menthol) have been banned.

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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
The bicyclist cutting in front of you has been banned.  That's illegal.

There is documentation that the tobacco companies do attempt to market to all people, including children.

Strawberry flavored cigarettes were banned, and so were bubblegum flavored cigarettes.  Do you think *those* were marketed towards adults?  Cloves just got grouped into that category when the ban was written up.  Flavored cigarettes (with the exception of menthol) have been banned.



What I don't understand is how these kids are getting flavored cigarettes. Most kids who have their first cigarette steal one from their parents pack and their parents surly are not buying flavored cigarettes.


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: pmb]
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Likely an 18 year old friend (or friend of a friend) who they're paying off with their allowances.  I'm damn sure smoking cigarettes will make you popular in middle school.

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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: BothHands]
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R U serious!!! I had no Idea!!!So does this mean if I take some cloves,grind em' up,twist em' up and puff em' up the clove cops will get me? Not a smoker but what the hell's going on out there man? Funny,I just had a short discussion about bodily invasion by authorities forces that tell us what we can and can't use on the anti LSD thread.

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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: captcheeze1]
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scroll up hun..

They're illegal to sell, not possess.

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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
Likely an 18 year old friend (or friend of a friend) who they're paying off with their allowances.  I'm damn sure smoking cigarettes will make you popular in middle school.


ive rarely been asked to  buy for minors. i bought once for a good friend of mine that was 16 who acted like he was 20 so since i worked with him and he was cool enough about it, not being a noob and shit and knew his stuff i was like sure watever man ill get ya something.


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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: whatdidusay]
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I used to buy cigarettes for my brother when he was 16.  He would have gotten them elsewhere if I didn't.  He could have asked me to buy two packs, and I would have, not knowing that the other pack was for his, say, 14 year old friend.  I could have bought cigarettes for a 14 year old and not known about it I guess.

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Re: So now that cloves are illegal in the usa, whats the penalty for possession? [Re: BothHands]
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i saw a cop kill a man in my town for simple possession of cloves


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