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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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Sounds great. So far I've been successful with putting jars in 70-75 degree climates to incubate. Then once I see mycelium I put them in 80 degree temps (high humidity) and they colonize faster. However I wouldn't go over 80 degrees, since it won't help much. Plus you'll want to have some colonization before you do so, otherwise the increased temps can also increase the risk of foreign contams. Good luck and KEEP READING! Search the forum for all of your questions before u make a new post. I'd also recommend you start participating in the grow log section. :smile:

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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So it has been 21 days from inoculation, they are still not 100% most are just around 50% a couple around 75-80%. One jar just started showing about 4 days ago, and one not at all. Seems like it is taking a long time.
I have not moved them and temps have been the same around 78-82f.
most are starting to pull away from the jar walls where the mycelium is heaviest.
Is there something I am doing wrong?
Here is a pic from tonight.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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Bump

So is something wrong that I am doing?
Why are some so spread out in in starting?
Is pulling away from the jar walls normal if not 100% covered?

Since some are late to start should I break up the dunk and roll as they become ready?

Edited by Mr Fantasy (10/23/09 08:00 AM)

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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Mr Fantasy said:
I am trying to do BRF cakes with Cubensis EQ.

I went to over 20 stores in the past two days and no one has 1/2 pint wide mouth, so I just got the reg 1/2 pint jars. Top still seems wider that the bottom but taller and skinnier, would these be OK?

Anyway, I think I may have screwed up already and I was so clean about everything. I made the mix, loaded 10 jars, wiped down inside edge, micropore tape over the holes. loaded them in the steamer pot and started boiling 10min. Thats when I remembered i forgot to cover each jar with foil.

I stopped it down, opened the steamer pot and tape looked fine and still dry and sticking to holes. I put the foil over them all, but I am worried about that, It did look like there was slight moisture in the jar. would that just be from the water I put in the verm flower mix?

Should I start over?



In that case I would probably start over, but if its not a bad case of moisture you should be fine because the jars still need to be sterilized. Oh yea and I also used the reg. mouth 1/2 Pint canning jars. They work just fine, the case needs a little tapping to get out, you should be good with those. Good Luck Later :leaving:


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: kubenzi]
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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: kubenzi]
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They look good, nice and white. Yeah it looks like you are gonna birth some earlier than others. You can wait for all of them but you'd likely be getting pinning invitro on some of the faster jars.

I guess you don't really have the starting over after pc'ing question anymore, but really I don't think I would ever dump out jars and start over until I was sure they were screwed. In the future, if you have reason to believe some jars may be stuffed you could just make more jars as back up. My first jars were incredibly wet, I think I must have mixed wrong but they came out ok in the end. So, they can withstand a couple of mistakes... better to give them the benefit of a doubt:)

I couldn't find wide mouths for my first grow either and it was a bitch. I used the ones you have and I ended up cutting the jars apart with a glass cutter. I'd really let them colonize so tightly that they would not come out without major damage, but I didn't want to take a chance on birthing them too early. Tricky business. My jars never colonise all at the same time, but it doesn't hurt anything... just makes it a little harder to remember which cake is on what flush later on. I thought about putting little labels on toothpicks and sticking them in the cakes to keep up. I think I will do that on my next grow.


After that fiasco of demolishing the jars I used the later colonising ones for bulk because I didn't want to have to destroy all the jars. That worked out ok until I had to leave town for an emergency and came home to trich. :::cry::: But that's a whole 'nother story, grrr.

I keep reading about speedy colonization times but for me it's almost always at least 28 days. Maybe they run with the moon:) That might be that my spore prints were two years old.
Also it's not uncommon for me to see no growth at all after ten days, when this first happened I thought all the jars had failed, but since they weren't contamed I just set them aside and ignored them for another ten days, and then they started taking off.

I had the same experience with Ace, it just seems the wide mouths are harder to find. I ended up having to order them online after going all over town:/
From what I have read the rust on your jar lids won't hurt, but it's annoying...I don't trust it, haha.
Good luck!

Oh, and the pulling away is normal too.

Edited by VictoriaPandora (10/23/09 10:12 AM)

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: VictoriaPandora]
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Thanks for the answering VictoriaPandora. I feel a little better now.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: VictoriaPandora]
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VictoriaPandora said:
Also it's not uncommon for me to see no growth at all after ten days, when this first happened I thought all the jars had failed, but since they weren't contamed I just set them aside and ignored them for another ten days, and then they started taking off.




Thanks man, you just fixed my paranoia about spending $150 on all the supplies for PF-Tek and seeing nothing after 8 days. I got so board I decided to try using rye seed a few days ago. Made up 5 rye jars and I am waiting on them now too lol. I was starting to think that the syringes I got were bunk but a little bird told me that I shouldn't have any problems in a store run by who it is run by. 8 days on my first 6 pf-tek jars and 6 days on my second pf-tek jars and 2 days on my 5 rye seed jars. Hopefully I will see something in the next few days... I would be happy seeing anything grow hopefully I see mycelium tho.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Drevrens]
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HELP!
I have pinning on jars that are not 100% what should I do?



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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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cut off uncolonized part and fruit. it is usually caused by a contam so do it soon.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: feelfunny]
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should I still dunk and roll them or just go straight in the fruiting chamber?

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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dunk and roll or just put some verm on top


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: feelfunny]
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well, I put the three that were pinning in the fruiting chamber.
As you can see on the left cake, the one with the big pins bruised a bit getting it out of the jar.
I hope some make it.
I think it was the type of jars I used that made them take too long to colonize 100%, everyday they were getting more and more, but today I noticed the pins.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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Do you see the way the jars turned darker at the bottom? Bacteria!!!!

yuk!

I had a set of jars that did that once. I took them out and washed them under water. I used a little water pressure and all the bacteria parts washed off. Then I dunked and rolled half and grew some in a casing.
Worked perfectly fine.

Good luck.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Kidwonder]
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I think the darker at the bottom in my pic is from it being wetter, I had just did a light dunk and roll before that picture. The mycelium was a little looser in that area and absorbed more. it is the same color over all now.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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just an update on those jars so far, the bigger mushroom on the far left is the one that I bruised getting out of the jar, I am glade it survived.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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How often are you fanning ??


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Shea25]
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Um, fanning?  I think I missed that part
I was just doing the PF-TEK with the shotgun terrarium.
and watching the vids at lets grow mushrooms.

What should I do??? I have a fan.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
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Yea your mushrooms look like there lacking FAE (Fresh Air Exchange) thats why I asked.

Heres what you want to do. Mist the cakes 3-4 times a day and then fan right afterwards, just use the lid of the fruiting chamber to fan it out. Fan 5-6 times a day.

Over time the FC will need to replenish the O2. It builds up Co2 which is not good for forming fruit bodies.


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How to Sterilize a Syringe
Quick and Easy Pasteurization
Quick and Easy LC
Pan Cyans without a PC
4 Easy step rye

AMU Q&A link

Edited by Shea25 (10/31/09 10:29 PM)

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Shea25]
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cool, I have been misting 3-4 times a day.
so I just want to move the air around a bit?
Is that why the are so round?

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