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hayguyman
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ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana?
#11257314 - 10/16/09 12:15 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I found them under some pines at a car wash yesterday. Its been rainy and its cooling down alot, like 50 F.
Here They Are
I am kind of loosing hope on identifying them as A. Muscaria v. Guessowii because they are more orange than yellow and they are not too fuzzy.
I dont feel experieced to call them v. Frostiana and throw them out. Im not sure what the toxicity of Frostianas' is.
And I may have a harvest that is mixed up Guessowii and Frostiana since some have different traits.
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schutzemdown
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
#11257333 - 10/16/09 12:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm in north Indiana and it's like mid 40's already. Never seen an amanti around here but I have only been looking for 1 1/2 yrs. And am kind of clueless to what I am doing I just look where I whink there would be mushies. I am really only looking for an amanti for novelty value.
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hayguyman
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: schutzemdown]
#11257507 - 10/16/09 01:07 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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ah man ive been looking for this whole fall, walking around the woods aimlessly lost with none of the right trees for them. I actually gave up hunting this week.
Then I pulled around a car wash when turning around and saw a whole field of them on their lawn under some pines
If your looking for them Id say look under pines, thats where they all were so far for me this week.
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HerbBaker
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
#11258701 - 10/16/09 09:29 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting, try to get better pics.
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TheShroomanizer
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: HerbBaker]
#11258753 - 10/16/09 09:40 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wana say that they are amanita muscaria var persicina, found about 100 Amanita Amerimuscaria this morning, i believe the cold weather spike caused immediate fruiting. Damn i love these things.
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hayguyman
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: TheShroomanizer]
#11260345 - 10/16/09 02:30 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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All right Il make a spore print for a repost but they'r getting kindof dry.
and I'll take more pics too. I think the pics i have are all right though. I could label them though
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Bretdaniel
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
#11260535 - 10/16/09 03:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are not Amanita Muscaria var Guessowii. This is what a guessowii base looks like notice the stacked rings too:
Edited by Bretdaniel (10/16/09 03:03 PM)
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hayguyman
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: Bretdaniel]
#11263434 - 10/17/09 12:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So these are not any type of muscaria?
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TheShroomanizer
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
#11264485 - 10/17/09 08:59 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I still think they are Amanita Muscaria Var persicina. and in that case it is a "Muscaria" just a different variance, and unfortunantly a variance i know nothing about
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Ieponumos
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
#11264719 - 10/17/09 10:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
hayguyman said: So these are not any type of muscaria?
I see concentric rings so I'll get some balls and call . amerimuscaria. Also on on the outside pic, who is the lady to the left, lol? Nah, j/k. Wait for a TI though.
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Bretdaniel
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: Ieponumos]
#11265942 - 10/17/09 02:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Where do you see the concentric rings on his? Cause I don't. His are most likely Amanita Muscaria var. persicina. If you call it Amerimuscaria then you're just calling it every muscaria in America :P.
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svarog
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
#11266176 - 10/17/09 03:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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All right Il make a spore print for a repost but they'r getting kindof dry.
Don't bother making a spore print; it will be white.
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hayguyman
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: svarog]
#11282015 - 10/20/09 02:07 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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very true. Well Ive been hunting more and found definate Var. guessowii, so I really know what they look like now.
and have definably id'ed these ones as Var. persicina with your help. Thanks so much for the ID sorry I cant rate yet, I need more postage
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Ieponumos
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: Bretdaniel]
#11301488 - 10/22/09 06:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bretdaniel said: Where do you see the concentric rings on his? Cause I don't. His are most likely Amanita Muscaria var. persicina. If you call it Amerimuscaria then you're just calling it every muscaria in America :P.
I learned to identify all Amanita muscaria found in America as A. amerimuscaria. If it's wrong, I'll work on it.
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Bretdaniel said: Those are not Amanita Muscaria var Guessowii. This is what a guessowii base looks like notice the stacked rings too:
Am I the only one who sees two rings on the stipe bulb? EDIT: DOH! That's a post from Bretdaniels ... Sorry for the mistake
Edited by Ieponumos (10/22/09 06:08 PM)
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