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ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana?
    #11257314 - 10/16/09 02:15 AM (8 years, 3 days ago)

I found them under some pines at a car wash :eek: yesterday.  Its been rainy and its cooling down alot, like 50 F.

Here They Are




I am kind of loosing hope on identifying them as A. Muscaria v. Guessowii because they are more orange than yellow and they are not too fuzzy.

I dont feel experieced to call them v. Frostiana and throw them out.
Im not sure what the toxicity of Frostianas' is. 

And I may have a harvest that is mixed up Guessowii and Frostiana since some have different traits.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
    #11257333 - 10/16/09 02:18 AM (8 years, 3 days ago)

I'm in north Indiana and it's like mid 40's already. Never seen an amanti around here but I have only been looking for 1 1/2 yrs. And am kind of clueless to what I am doing I just look where I whink there would be mushies. I am really only looking for an amanti for novelty value.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: schutzemdown]
    #11257507 - 10/16/09 03:07 AM (8 years, 3 days ago)

ah man ive been looking for this whole fall, walking around the woods aimlessly lost with none of the right trees for them.  I actually gave up hunting this week.

Then I pulled around a car wash when turning around and saw a whole field of them on their lawn under some pines :thumbup:

If your looking for them Id say look under pines, thats where they all were so far for me this week.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
    #11258701 - 10/16/09 11:29 AM (8 years, 3 days ago)

Interesting, try to get better pics.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: HerbBaker]
    #11258753 - 10/16/09 11:40 AM (8 years, 3 days ago)

I wana say that they are amanita muscaria var persicina, found about 100 Amanita Amerimuscaria this morning, i believe the cold weather spike caused immediate fruiting. Damn i love these things.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #11260345 - 10/16/09 04:30 PM (8 years, 2 days ago)

All right Il make a spore print for a repost but they'r getting kindof dry. 

and I'll take more pics too.  I think the pics i have are all right though.  I could label them though


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
    #11260535 - 10/16/09 05:02 PM (8 years, 2 days ago)

Those are not Amanita Muscaria var Guessowii. This is what a guessowii base looks like notice the stacked rings too:



Edited by Bretdaniel (10/16/09 05:03 PM)


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: Bretdaniel]
    #11263434 - 10/17/09 02:26 AM (8 years, 2 days ago)

So these are not any type of muscaria?


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
    #11264485 - 10/17/09 10:59 AM (8 years, 2 days ago)

I still think they are Amanita Muscaria Var persicina. and in that case it is a "Muscaria" just a different variance, and unfortunantly a variance i know nothing about


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
    #11264719 - 10/17/09 12:04 PM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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So these are not any type of muscaria?




I see concentric rings so I'll get some balls and call . amerimuscaria.  Also on on the outside pic, who is the lady to the left, lol? Nah, j/k. Wait for a TI though.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #11265942 - 10/17/09 04:11 PM (8 years, 1 day ago)

Where do you see the concentric rings on his? Cause I don't. His are most likely Amanita Muscaria var. persicina. If you call it Amerimuscaria then you're just calling it every muscaria in America :P.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: hayguyman]
    #11266176 - 10/17/09 05:02 PM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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All right Il make a spore print for a repost but they'r getting kindof dry.




Don't bother making a spore print; it will be white.


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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: svarog]
    #11282015 - 10/20/09 04:07 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

very true.  Well Ive been hunting more and found definate Var. guessowii, so I really know what they look like now.

and have definably id'ed these ones as Var. persicina with your help.  Thanks so much for the ID
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Re: ID my Indiana October Amanitas: Guessowii or Frostiana? [Re: Bretdaniel]
    #11301488 - 10/22/09 08:06 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Where do you see the concentric rings on his? Cause I don't. His are most likely Amanita Muscaria var. persicina. If you call it Amerimuscaria then you're just calling it every muscaria in America :P.




I learned to identify all Amanita muscaria found in America as A. amerimuscaria. If it's wrong, I'll work on it.

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Those are not Amanita Muscaria var Guessowii. This is what a guessowii base looks like notice the stacked rings too:






Am I the only one who sees two rings on the stipe bulb? EDIT: DOH! :doh: That's a post from Bretdaniels ... Sorry for the mistake


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