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Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID
    #11204140 - 10/08/09 12:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thats how all the crims get their guns


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11204184 - 10/08/09 12:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You mean you don't have to get it registered or anything? :cool:


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: justinsanity]
    #11204197 - 10/08/09 12:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

People love guns. I prefer my knife.


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: justinsanity]
    #11204201 - 10/08/09 12:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You mean you don't have to get it registered or anything? :cool:



ya i dont thnk so they jus look at ID and u get an assault rifle  :guns:


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11204217 - 10/08/09 12:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Thats how all the crims get their guns





they dont allow private sellers at gun shows, that's illegal, check the ATF website


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11204230 - 10/08/09 12:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Guns FTW


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: InSane804]
    #11204246 - 10/08/09 12:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Chek it outtttttttt


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11204261 - 10/08/09 12:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lets be real even if they did do background checks criminals such as myself would just break into someone elses house and steal theres while at work... so you choose good sir


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: InSane804]
    #11204285 - 10/08/09 12:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ya well if sum1 breaks into a non felon hopefully theyll shoot em with their nonloophole bought gun  :laser:


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11204333 - 10/08/09 12:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Do you honestly think that there are ANY laws that
will keep a criminal from getting a gun :imslow:


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: niteowl]
    #11204343 - 10/08/09 12:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i think there are loopholes that make it hella ez lol :braindamage:


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11204348 - 10/08/09 12:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Do those plastic guns that guy had get through airport security?


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: niteowl]
    #11204350 - 10/08/09 12:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You'd figure the NRA would be all over that loophole. Oh well,
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Do you honestly think that there are ANY laws that
will keep a criminal from getting a gun :imslow:




Very true, if there is a demand there is a supplier. Simple as that.


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11204714 - 10/08/09 01:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

"Thats how crimes get there guns"......Dude lay off of the drugs for awhile cuz this sentence you wrote to support your thought about gun shows has no weight. Besides most states have no gun transfer laws any way so you should be happy they ask for ID.
It would not be a gun show if people could not buy and sell there guns. Criminals the word I think you ment to use can get guns other ways like steeling them which 95% are. What smart criminal would go in and buy a gun to use in a crime after they gave ID. Besides Private sellers ask for the same requirement as public sellers do. you can go into any gun store and buy a gun and all they will ask you is for ID. Now if public gun sellers can just ask for ID, why cant private sellers? The answer to you question is...Because thats how its done. What do I got to give some DNA? I would rather go into a gun store and use my ID. SO the question is why do gun shows let ANYONE sell there guns seeing an ID? But what else can you show? Want a finger print some DNA? That wont stop criminals from buying guns. Dont blame guns, private sellers or gun shows for peoples actions. If there were no gun shows or private sellers just seeing ID, we would have no gun crimes? Dude wake up and exorcize your brain a little, cuz your reasoning has fallacies.


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: CapHat]
    #11204724 - 10/08/09 01:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Criminals the word I think you ment to use can get guns other ways like steeling them which 95% are.



actually its less than 70%


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11204760 - 10/08/09 01:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Talking about federal schools........dont blame the schools or teachers blame your selfs.
Your the one who doesnt want to take responsibility and rase or teach your kids. You would rather let someone else watch and teach your kids then do it. They have private schools out there. If you cant afford to have kids and need the system to raise and teach them, well hello its your fault. Take responsibility and sit down with them every day and teach them. How often do you sit down with your kids and teach them? By now do your kids even listen to you? Why should they , you have let others do your duties.


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: CapHat]
    #11204767 - 10/08/09 01:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Talking about federal schools........dont blame the schools or teachers blame your selfs.
Your the one who doesnt want to take responsibility and rase or teach your kids. You would rather let someone else watch and teach your kids then do it. They have private schools out there. If you cant afford to have kids and need the system to raise and teach them, well hello its your fault. Take responsibility and sit down with them every day and teach them. How often do you sit down with your kids and teach them? By now do your kids even listen to you? Why should they , you have let others do your duties.



ya its bad parenting
a lot of times the parents are working too much so they cant parent


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11205152 - 10/08/09 03:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Thats how all the crims get their guns





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A Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) report on “Firearms Use by Offenders” found that 0.8% of prison inmates reported acquiring firearms used in their crimes "At a gun show," with repeat offenders less likely than first-time offenders to report acquiring firearms from a retail source, gun show or flea market. This 2001 study examined data from a 1997 Department of Justice survey of more than 18,000 federal and state prison inmates in 1,409 State prisons and 127 Federal prisons. The remaining 99.2% of inmates reported obtaining firearms from other sources, including "From a friend/family member" (36.8%), "Off the street/from a drug dealer" (20.9%), "From a fence/black market source" (9.6%), "From a pawnshop," "From a flea market," "From the victim," or "In a burglary." 9% of inmates replied "Don't Know/Other" to the question of where they acquired a firearm and 4.4% refused to answer. The Department of Justice did not attempt to verify the firearms reported in the survey or trace them to determine their chain of possession from original retail sale to the time they were transferred to the inmates surveyed (in cases where inmates were not the original retail purchaser).




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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11205160 - 10/08/09 03:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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"From a friend/family member" (36.8%), "Off the street/from a drug dealer" (20.9%), "From a fence/black market source" (9.6%), "From a pawnshop,"



and were did those ppl buy their guns
a gun show :cool:


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Re: Why do they allow private sellers at gun shows to sell guns just with seeing ID [Re: Coaster]
    #11205225 - 10/08/09 03:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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"From a friend/family member" (36.8%), "Off the street/from a drug dealer" (20.9%), "From a fence/black market source" (9.6%), "From a pawnshop,"



and were did those ppl buy their guns
a gun show :cool:





straw purchases went through the back ground check, consider there's more than 5000 gun shows every year in the US, the ATF cites gunshows as being the second largest source for guns being diverted for criminal activity, the first largest, corrupt FFL dealers, the phrase 'at a gunshow' also includes the parking lot sales, I'm yet to see a dealer of firearms other than relics and curios in a gunshow that dont have an FFL, maybe it's just my state though, maybe your state likes arming criminals and permits the shit to go on. the private sales here are from FFL dealers and the feds demand that they not run the 'personal collection' sales through the system.

Remember Bill Clinton and his Brady Bill that was designed to get guns out of the hands of criminals... well, that bill revoked the Federal Firearms Licenses from thousands of these smaller dealers, preventing them from running the background checks...


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