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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: thelaughingman]
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I sometimes use the mjshroomer technique....

1. Lay your fresh collection on either newspaper or typing paper or hell - wax paper
2. Place an electric fan fairly close to them and let them dry for 24 hrs
3. Turn on oven and preheat to about 275 degrees give or take. Once it reaches around this temp go ahead and turn the oven OFF. Place the mushrooms on tin foil then place them in the oven BUT leave the oven door 1/4 open. Let 'em dry off in there for about 10 minutes and grab 'em. They should now be "cracker dry" as the old pros say/write.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Ahh i see. Thats how my father dryed potleafs:tongue:

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: thelaughingman]
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haha^^^^^^^^^^


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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: rexwayne]
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Returned to location and found 3 specimens








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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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sure looks like Panaeolina to me.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: cyanophilus]
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You guys are killin' me ----  Give me til the end of this week and then I'll tell you after I ingest my little lab rat. Actually, he's pretty big.
:popcorn:

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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*inject

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Hey! Pepto Bismol!

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: Hellbacon]
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Maybe. We'll see. Muahahaha

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Well, I honestly hope they're not foes. but they sure do look like it.

I hope everything goes good, you brave brave soul, you.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: Hellbacon]
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I love it.

I just took a long series of looks at 500x in a microscope at one of the spore prints (actually I scraped off spores onto a glass slide). I'm still learning terminology but oddly enough here's what I've found:
Spores vary in color and in more way than one
  A.  Approx 4/5 spores are BASICALLY black
  B.  Approx 1/5 spores are BASICALLY brown
Of the 4/5 that are BASICALLY black, there is a variation in color from the outer edge to the center. Typically, the edge is solid black and get slightly lighter moving toward the center ranging from black then very, very dark brown in the center. Some are completely black however.
Of the 1/5 that are BASICALLY brown, there is a variation in color from the outer edge to the center. There is a fair amount of variation in subtle nuances. In general, the 1/5 basically brown spores appear as follows: Most of them have a solid, definite black edging and then have a very thin dark brown edging after that then they are just brown to medium brown. There are a handful of spores that have a light brown center. This is the exception to the rule however.

Shape varies slightly among them. Some are shapes somewhat like artist's tears. Many of them are shaped like marijuana seeds. If only I had a spore shape diagram to choose from.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Additional notes as this is seeming way too important to me.... :grin:  In my microscope I can clearly see smooth edging.

Workman pointed me to looking again for smooth edges on each spore which would be another indicator of cinctulus. Panaeolina foenesecii have jagged edges on the spores. Compare the outer edge of these two images:

Panaeolus cinctulus ( panaeolus subbalteatus )
http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Genus-Panaeolus-senso-stricto/Panaeolus_subbalteatus_MD19
Smooth edging

Panaeolina foenesecii
http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Subgenus-Panaeolina/Panaeolina_foenisecii_Oregon
Hard to see it but definitely noticeable jagged edging

Hmmmmm

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