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NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus!
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Even strolling down the sidewalk you would not have seen these gems growing from a healthy, new lawn in a new neighborhood, underneath the shade of 100ft tall trees. You had to stand almost directly above them to see 'em. And more appeared as I assumed the kneeling position.

Alan, German: Please, please do not tell me these are Panaeolina foenescii. :smile:














Spore prints in progress!

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Well, since you don't want Alan or German to tell you, I will.

Those are Panaeolina foenescii.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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That one you're pointing at in pic #4.  Are those spores on the margin you think?

I'm thinking foe, but wouldn't be offended if the prints were black and I had to change my mind >:)


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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: ShockValue]
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Several of them have what appear to be black spore deposits on the cap, and that's what changed my mind from originally thinking they were foes. It is possible that this is a mixed collection.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Agreed.  Quite possible.  Print em all and eat the brown ones now, and the black ones when you're in a comfortable and safe environment :wink:


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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: ShockValue]
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I have just over 100 specimens. If they are cinctulus I think an exploration is in order, and the order's around the maximum quantity!

:thinking:  :plotting:

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Definitely foes. In cinctulus, pay plenty of attention to the gills. Cinctulus has much more clustered gills.. When you find one you will know what I mean. Also, in the field look at the gills in the sun and many of them will put off more of a smokey color than that light brown. The first field I found Cinctulus in was covered with foes. gave up hope until the next year when I started playing ball there and found about a 10x10 patch of them. After that I was finding them everywhere. Once you pick one you won't mistake them for foes again.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: Ganjabonga]
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With some time the spore print finally reveals it's color...

Jet Black on all printed caps
















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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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Spore print appears jet black, they look like cinctulus to me anyway :shrug:

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: Agent 47]
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looks black. I thought they were foes. I see a lot with gills below the cap margin.


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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
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Samples will be tested soon enough

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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I was wrong once again...

:congrats: on your find bro!

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: shroom360]
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Thanks

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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World Spirit said:
Thanks

Yeah the gills looked gray, that is a good sign. Sometimes with Pan. cinctulus the gills tend to appear gray, rather than black, even all the way up to maturity.

Nice finds.


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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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I think they are Panaeolina foenisecii  Prints look dark walnut purplish brown on my monitor.  The quickest way to be sure is to check for ornamentation on the spores.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
I think they are Panaeolina foenisecii  Prints look dark walnut purplish brown on my monitor.  The quickest way to be sure is to check for ornamentation on the spores.

They look jet black on my monitor :shrug:


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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Trust me. They are solid dark black in person. There's only one final way to know if they contain psilocybin with the lack of gear in my pad. I post the way I do for a reason.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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They are Jet Black on my screen too.

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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: Bretdaniel]
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Here are dried pics after about 24hrs and a little help with a fan and then some short-term high heat:










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Re: NW Washington 9-17-09 Possible Panaeolus cinctulus! [Re: World Spirit]
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World Spirit said:
Here are dried pics after about 24hrs and a little help with a fan and then some short-term high heat:


A blow dryer? :tongue:

Well, have some, tell us how it goes.

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