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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
ok is a chemist who enjoys heroin with his mdma going to go to a club rolling, and risk shooting up right there on the spot? fuck no
they're gonna make it as concealable as popping a pill and combine the two into one little pill. then distribute so anyone else who enjoys that combo can do so discretely as well.


Great scenario.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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i'd say the opiate buzz is subtle but i've only had codiene (:P)
and amps... overpower E but is still subtle enough to not disrupt the mdma buzz if there is one at all with said pill. and meth you'd know about from lots of signs. one being the numbness and tightness of your skin and muscle and then another is the fact that your face is making retarded exaggerations of what it's trying to do and you think you can talk to someone straight but you act the fool and you stay up for the night and still don't wanna eat the next day, your tripping out over trees following your and people shifting through the trees because of being wired all night and day with this flight and fight response...


methbombs were funny, but wow... fucked.

oh yeah llololol, no man... molly... wouldn't give a shitty comedown unless you took like 300 400 mgs.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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believe what you want. i really don't give a fuck.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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in all honestly, all i care about is why someone would waste good heroin on this idea. i mean, yes safty... but mdma and heroin? WHY?!

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
in all honestly, all i care about is why someone would waste good heroin on this idea. i mean, yes safty... but mdma and heroin? WHY?!


Just registered basically with a hundred posts, and has more common sense then most of the members in here.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
the bizzle said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
Out of 1668 Ecstasy samples tested by EcstasyData:

1 contained Heroin
3 contained Fentanyl

So you can be pretty sure that none of the pills you'll ever take in your life will actually contain such things.

Anyone who claims (and are 100% positive) to have Heroin or other opiates in their Ecstasy just loses more credibility.


I'm sorry, but this statement was retarded.

out of 1668 samples tested, I'm presuming which were sent in from various locations, 1 was heroin.

1 was heroin, and therefore, you can be sure that none of the pills you've ever taken had heroin in them.



It's called probability... and your analogy doesn't work in this situation.


Yes it does. you are just making more and more of an ass of yourself.

there is a similar probability to winning the lottery. Are you going to tell somebody who won the lottery that based on probability, even though you admit that there is such a thing as the lottery, that no they didn't?

damn, dude... I can respect and believe that the probability is extremely unlikely, and that I probably will never again encounter an opiated pill, but unless you can come up with a REALLY good candidate for what else could have possibly been in that one pill to feel so distinctly opiated, then you are just being a stubborn jerk.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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<<<< points to avatar

my face with the world

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
Ok  :rolleyes: I know what pure MDMA feels like dude, ive eaten enough shard.  I also know what opiates feel like.  Dont act like Im stupid and cant tell the difference.  That IS NOT what MDMA feels like.  MDMA is a VERY distinct high.  You can believe what you want, but they are out there.  Ive personally had them.


There's no Heroin in your pills. It's not orally active for the most part - the enzymes in your stomach will destroy the majority of it. Not to mention, the amount of Heroin needed to get high orally, wouldn't be enough to fit in a pill press...

Heroin in your MDxx is a myth:

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=116


/end thread

you are probably both right... one got an h-bomb more then once(extremely rare unless you're in a shitty and i mean shittay city) and one is right about posting statistically (some people get stats more then others) that is almost impossible that ONE will get and h-bomb unless extremely unlucky/lucky.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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^Yeah, facts don't work with these people apparently - I'm the ignorant one though...

the bizzle said:
but unless you can come up with a REALLY good candidate for what else could have possibly been in that one pill to feel so distinctly opiated


Set & Setting.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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^ fair and plausible

like i've had mdma make me feel so on top of things i could "feel" like... "FEEEL" like i could run up and down the street (not really lol) but getting up to go do that would probably result in me tripping on my own two feet down the stairs and wanting to laugh off my exuberance. and then i've had more normal trips where the logical approch was "i'm feeling great lets no move and spoil the moment unless it's importent. lets not speak unless needed... lets not trow on entertainment unless needed.

sounds remotely like an opiate exprience I had once...

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:23 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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post denied. insufficient funds


(again, I am still not claiming this ONE pill I ONCE had was heroin, but it was definitely something that wasnt mdma, mda, or speed, and definitely extremely opiate-like, if it wasn't an opiate...set and setting were not the factor)


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
post denied. insufficient funds


(again, I am still not claiming this ONE pill I ONCE had was heroin, but it was definitely something that wasnt mdma, mda, or speed, and definitely extremely opiate-like, if it wasn't an opiate...set and setting were not the factor)

possible dxm? ketamine?
lol dxm would be stupid, but it's possible without much of a dose at all to have small experience and othrwise probably harmful effects of taking it with mdma.

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:25 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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mmmmmmm...not DXM...I wouldn't know if it was K though, although it was significantly less "trippy" or whatever than typical X, which further points to an opiate. My idea is not carved in stone, but it definitely felt distinctly opiate. I am open to other possibilities, but I definitely know a few of the things it wasn't.



(I also know that 99% does not equal 100%, just random fyi)


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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well, k has an opiate like effect and oral k wouldn't do much to you in that dosage level except maybe opiate you. (i believe that ketamine does do something to opiate receptors on the body right?)

actually it's probably not K, although another possiblity.

but my last standing on this issues is get pure "shard" in capsules or otherwise. pressed in not the way especially if there is retards putting heroin in them making useless for anyone looking for upliftment.

yeah, i think i made that word up.

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:35 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
well, k has an opiate like effect and oral k wouldn't do much to you in that dosage level except maybe opiate you. (i believe that ketamine does do something to opiate receptors on the body right?)


would it last a long time and have an absolutely dreadful comedown that not even a substantial amount of benzos could help? (I've never done K)


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
akira_akuma said:
well, k has an opiate like effect and oral k wouldn't do much to you in that dosage level except maybe opiate you. (i believe that ketamine does do something to opiate receptors on the body right?)


would it last a long time and have an absolutely dreadful comedown that not even a substantial amount of benzos could help? (I've never done K)


nope
not at all

read above post again... but seriously... sounds like DXM to me dude. maybe fentynal if it was an opiate. nothign else sounds right to me.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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well I'm glad we could at least try to narrow this down like adults instead of flaming each other
:thumbup:


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle do you remember what your pupils looked like?

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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one can't judge the others experience but based on his or her own. it's completely meritted that everyone got their opinion here. flaming isn't whats wrong, it's the lower then par attempt at fashioning a conclusive stance on the authority on said subject.

fentanyl is something i'd hate to get laced in my anything... e, heroin anything, so if that was it i'm sorry and i hope it never happens again... not knockin opiates but that shit is way too hardcore. i doubt you got it though, man... it's really impossible to say... i can only say that if it wasn't just mdma it wasn't far off from being mdma because with pure molly... you don't always know what you are gonna get because you are assuring yourself (weather you know it then or not) that you are going to be aging on a trip. like mushrooms... the mdma trip can result in different subjective effects. ever seen someone get irritable on a 150 mg dose? i have and it can happen... it's just a paranoid mind trip that can get laid on you and you can completely be without fear of reproach yet still can help but talk shit, start shit, wander around in daze distracting yourself with "feeling good about listen to music" when your really just havign a shitty trip in your OWN SUJECTIVE EXPERIENCE.

sorry i rambled

BiG_StroOnZ said:
the bizzle do you remember what your pupils looked like?


importent question... morphine would dilute your pupils

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:52 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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no, I don't remember, but probably didn't even check that time.

about pupils...or the look of the face in general...I generally associate ecstasy with a more drugged-out look than natural psychedelics...those are just enlarged pupils, more or less, but ecstasy makes people more noticeably drugged looking...so I am wondering, is this inherent in MDMA, or is that due to the addition of speed or other substances?


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Edited by the bizzle (09/10/09 01:01 AM)

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