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How healthy is ecstasy for you?
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I'm talking street ecstasy - not pure MDMA. Is taking one pill every 6-8 months harmful in any way?


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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If it was pure MDMA I would say no. But there is always the risk of nasty shit in those pills.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: EdgeChaos]
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Pure MDMA definitely not. It's also quite unlikely it is pure, but even if it isn't, one ever 6 months is nothing to worry about.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: EdgeChaos]
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no one could give you a good answer on that, because the chemicals vary A LOT, ranging from meth and other amps to DXM and Ketamine and 2c's

One pill every 6-8 months isn't harmful I'd say though, unless you have an adverse reaction to one of the rando chemicals.

I use street E maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks (usually 4-6 caps) but I get mine tested...I still have never had any health problems tohugh, mentally or physically.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: CaptainTrips]
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Hey CaptinTrips how do you get your E tested? Do you use one of those at home tests or do you actually take it somewhere?

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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I think the word you're looking for is 'harmful', not healthy.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: HeavyToilet]
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Like I said - not pure MDMA.

I suppose my real question is, is it harmful to take the amount of meth and or K and or whatever in those pills once every 6 months?


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

Edited by pfxtc (09/08/09 03:19 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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The amount of k or meth in those pills is never enough to harm you. Gotta remember the people supplying those pills are chemists, and even though they're cutting em dirty they only put enough to potentiate the small amount of MDMA they did put in the pill. I took 2 purple decepticons my first time rolling and they ended up being methbombs, and I was just fine. I've had friends chew through 3-5 H bombs in one night and they didn't OD even though he had no tolerance to any opiates. The only thing you have to worry about when it comes to street pills is IF you dont want drugs they might cut em with to be in your body in the first place. That and the crash is usually more harsh with dirty street pills.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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How is it possible to get non-street pills? o.0


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
The amount of k or meth in those pills is never enough to harm you. Gotta remember the people supplying those pills are chemists, and even though they're cutting em dirty they only put enough to potentiate the small amount of MDMA they did put in the pill. I took 2 purple decepticons my first time rolling and they ended up being methbombs, and I was just fine. I've had friends chew through 3-5 H bombs in one night and they didn't OD even though he had no tolerance to any opiates. The only thing you have to worry about when it comes to street pills is IF you dont want drugs they might cut em with to be in your body in the first place. That and the crash is usually more harsh with dirty street pills.


Yeah I know what I'm ingesting for the most part, I've taken plenty before when I was a bit younger and stupid, and have had this one laying around forever but I just don't want to harm myself in anyway.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: nIkkNAME]
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nIkkNAME said:
How is it possible to get non-street pills? o.0


he said street ecstacy, as opposed to molly


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: silosighbin]
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Do a search on the net for harmful effect on that crap man,I don't see that it worth the risk personally but that just me.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Railrider]
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Railrider said:
Do a search on the net for harmful effect on that crap man,I don't see that it worth the risk personally but that just me.


99% of the stuff on the net is crap, and filtering through it is nearly impossible. Erowid is great but kind of vague about health issues.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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Get your self a test kit online !i wouldn't recommend using something your not aware of!

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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I just don't want to harm myself in anyway.


Lol, all drugs are harmful to a certain extent, even cannabis. Even caffeine. Even Khat. If it's pure ecstasy at a moderate dose, I'd say once or twice a year should leave unnoticeable damage, nothing too serious. Then again, read below.

Edit:
There have been studies showing permanent brain damage from Ecstasy. My friend's husband took it 5-6 times over one or two months, and eight years later, he still has memory problems (aging is undoubtedly involved, but the ecstasy (and whatever else was in there) *definitely* did something to his brain).

Edited by Malfoy (09/08/09 05:48 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Malfoy]
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All E is dangerous.

Cannabis / Mushrooms / Cactus - much less so...

Check out the research at MAPS.org.

They prove, in some studies that Cannabis is not too bad, while E does cause brain damage.

Check out the German study of E users versus Cannabis users versus non-drug user control.

The E users preformed more poorly than the other two groups.

The Cannabis users preformed as good or better than the Cann + E group.

Facsinating stuff.

This is a good reason why this research is so critical.

It's harm reduction...

Also - why kill your pleasure brain cells, for 4 hours of fun... when you could instead use them for the next 40 so years of your life?

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: fireshaman]
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I agree with fire shaman's last statement very true.  Ive been looking into alternatives, I was amazed by how much like MDMA 2C-b was and how clean it felt.  Im working on procuring some pure mescaline so that I can try that out.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: fireshaman]
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I agree with fireshaman - I've rolled probably 15 times in the past but I have gotten older since then you're absolutely right about the 4 hours vs 40 years thing.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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Also, how healthy is ecstacy for you?  uhh, about as healthy as jamming a pencil in your ear.  Pure MDMA?  Ehh, breaking a pencil in half and jamming it in maybe.  Though pure MDMA is WAAYYY better than street stuff its still pretty bad.  I reserve MDMA use for raves or other scenarios that are best suited for it.  Though I have been searching for alternatives.  2C-b is definitely the closest Ive found and i reccomend it highly.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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Quote:
I've had friends chew through 3-5 H bombs in one night and they didn't OD even though he had no tolerance to any opiates.



Who knows, i may be wrong :shrug: ?....


...But i highly doubt the pills had H in them :rolleyes:


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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H bombs are out there, Ive had em before.  It comes around in the bigger cities where shit like that is popular I think.  I wont ever eat a press again unless its tested FOR SURE to only contain MDMA and even then, fuck ill just get molly.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
H bombs are out there, Ive had em before.  It comes around in the bigger cities where shit like that is popular I think.  I wont ever eat a press again unless its tested FOR SURE to only contain MDMA and even then, fuck ill just get molly.



...Really?...

H in pills just never made sense to me in so many different ways.


But i hear ya on never doing press pills again. I have had a few good clean pills that gave me a nice roll with a gentle come down and an after glow...But i have also had pills that left me feeling like shit for the following days, Piperazines & Meth bombs :nonono:.



Only thing i touch now is pure molly, knowing the source it came from. 100mg-200mg once every few months....Supplemented with 5-HTP weeks before and after the roll.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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You never know what is in those Mystery Pills; therefore, if I were you, I would not take them. MDMA is fine to take every 8 months or so.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Feanor]
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watch it all


its not really that bad unless you dont take care of your body and are getting bad pills


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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^That's an awesome documentary on MDMA. Here's the playlist:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=63CF9CF21A284B8F

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.

Test your pills: test kit

You never know what kind of adulterants are in "Ecstasy," if you want to take care of your mind and body then you will always test your pills. Consuming adulterated pills can be dangerous, from taking too many meth bombs resulting in an amphetamine psychosis to getting serotonin syndrome from taking a pill that contains MDMA and DXM. Street pills these days are extremely risky much more than they even were a few years ago. Especially now with the recent fluctuation of Piperazine containing pills is another reason that has stopped me from taking any presses or rolls (ecstasy tablet or pill). If it isn't an analog of MDMA (MDAI, bk-MDMA, bk-MBDB [i'd be careful with Mephedrone or Methedrone]) or actual pure MDMA/MDE/MDA (Molly) which is also usually adulterated, but with non-active adulterants then I wouldn't touch it. The Ecstasy game has changed vastly because of the rise in popularity again - everybody is trying to make some money - even some people with an agenda other than making money, releasing highly dangerous Piperazine pills that have been killing people lately.

Edited by BiG_StroOnZ (09/08/09 07:42 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.

Test your pills: test kit

You never know what kind of adulterants are in "Ecstasy," if you want to take care of your mind and body then you will always test your pills. Consuming adulterated pills can be dangerous, from taking too many meth bombs resulting in an amphetamine psychosis to getting serotonin syndrome from taking a pill that contains MDMA and DXM. Street pills these days are extremely risky much more than they even were a few years ago, with the recent fluctuation of Piperazine containing pills is what primarily has stopped me from taking any press or roll (ecstasy tablet or pill). If it isn't an analog of MDMA (MDAI, bk-MDMA, bk-MBDB) or actual pure MDMA/MDA (Molly) which is also usually adulterated, but with non-active adulterants then I wouldn't touch it. The Ecstasy game has changed vastly because of the rise in popularity again - everybody is trying to make some money.


Ok  :rolleyes:

I know what pure MDMA feels like dude, ive eaten enough shard.  I also know what opiates feel like.  Dont act like Im stupid and cant tell the difference.  That IS NOT what MDMA feels like.  MDMA is a VERY distinct high.  You can believe what you want, but they are out there.  Ive personally had them and they were anything but clean.  I dont get how you think I would have a clean pill and think it was heroin :confused:

Edited by mattritt (09/08/09 07:45 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
Ok  :rolleyes: I know what pure MDMA feels like dude, ive eaten enough shard.  I also know what opiates feel like.  Dont act like Im stupid and cant tell the difference.  That IS NOT what MDMA feels like.  MDMA is a VERY distinct high.  You can believe what you want, but they are out there.  Ive personally had them.


There's no Heroin in your pills. It's not orally active for the most part - the enzymes in your stomach will destroy the majority of it. Not to mention, the amount of Heroin needed to get high orally, wouldn't be enough to fit in a pill press...

Heroin in your MDxx is a myth:

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=116

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Ever heard of triple stacks?  Theyre three times the size of a normal pill (there are real ones that arent marketing gimmicks).  And heroin is definitely orally active.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
Ever heard of triple stacks?  Theyre three times the size of a normal pill (there are real ones that arent marketing gimmicks).  And heroin is definitely orally active.


There hasn't been one ecstasy pill in history that has contained Heroin, you have no idea what you're saying. From all the websites that test pills, from ecstasydata.org to pillreports; nada.

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=116

Triple stacks, double stacks, are also gimmicks. All that means is it contains MORE ADULTERANTS whether ACTIVE or NON-ACTIVE to make the PILLS LARGER so they in turn HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU think THEY ARE GETTING a BETTER DEAL. IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY CONTAIN MORE MDMA.

Please stop while you're ahead.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Ive read that erowid shit years ago, they havent tested every pill ever.  Neither has pillreports.  Ive had DOZENS of pills that werent on there.  I know that triple stacks most likely dont contain more actives but I was saying that thats how I had it.  In a fat pill.  Believe me or dont.  It really doesnt matter.  Theyre out there whether you believe in em or not.  Ive had em, I didnt like em, I wont eat presses again.  End of story.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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LD50 is how they find out if a drug is potentially lethal. I learned this from McKenna. MDMA has a horrendous LD50 profile. The way they figure this out is they take a population of lab rats or college students, and give them the maximum effective dose, when half the population dies, they figure out the LD50. For MDMA, it's ten times the effective dose. Meaning if you drop ten beans, it can kill you. BAD! Mushrooms on the other hand are extremely safe. You can eat 1000 times the effective dose, and you wont die. As a matter of fact, you can eat almost your own body weight and you wont die.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Bruce6000]
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I beg to differ.  Eat a couple ounces at once and tell me you liver isnt fucked, and that your not mentally fucked for the rest of your life.  Honestly, I dont think those figures are too good.  Whos really pushed the boundaries to make claims like that?  Ive always heard those things but it sounds pretty unlikely.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
I beg to differ.  Eat a couple ounces at once and tell me you liver isnt fucked, and that your not mentally fucked for the rest of your life.  Honestly, I dont think those figures are too good.  Whos really pushed the boundaries to make claims like that?  Ive always heard those things but it sounds pretty unlikely.


Are you talking about mushrooms or beans?


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Bruce6000]
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shrooms


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
I beg to differ.  Eat a couple ounces at once and tell me you liver isnt fucked, and that your not mentally fucked for the rest of your life.  Honestly, I dont think those figures are too good.  Whos really pushed the boundaries to make claims like that?  Ive always heard those things but it sounds pretty unlikely.


Erm how do mushrooms fuck with your liver? It's pretty widely agreed upon that psilocybin is fucking harmless, less toxic than aspirin. Sure, taking an ounce would radically change your life, but not because the chemicals are harmful. Because nobody wants to return after an experience like that.

  Now one thing I will mention about excessive mushroom doses; they are dangerous and unpredictable. Wiccan posted an account from several years ago where someone ate 30 grams of mushrooms. They were paralyzed for several days and ended up in a hospital. Nutrients were given to him intravenously because his esophagus was spasming too much to swallow anything. He was fine, just learned a valuable lesson. Mushrooms are a powerful drug!
  Besides, eating an O of mushrooms isn't COMPLETELY uncommon. Many on the shroomery have claimed to have done so, if you choose to believe them or not. It's definitely possible.
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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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That was exactly the case i was thinking of and if i remeber corecctly there were some terrible after effects like a speech immpediment or something.  And it does damage the liver, i dont feel like looking it up but if you do it should be easy enough to find.  Probably on erowid or something.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
shrooms


Alright, But LD50 is about lethality, as in "you're dead!" And I was basically stating that MDMA is highly lethal, mushrooms are not.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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ecstacy is actually better for you than sunflower seeds in high doses, you should eat as much as you can, as often as you can, and you should kill, steal and maim to get pills whenever you can

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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Yeah trust me man, H bombs are DEFINATELY out there. Especially in Dallas.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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one of my friends just told me yesterday she'd been on a week runner... she says she feels like shit... take this from a smoker/chewer if you feel like shit, then shitty stuff must be happening. i just stick to herbs...


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
Ok  :rolleyes: I know what pure MDMA feels like dude, ive eaten enough shard.  I also know what opiates feel like.  Dont act like Im stupid and cant tell the difference.  That IS NOT what MDMA feels like.  MDMA is a VERY distinct high.  You can believe what you want, but they are out there.  Ive personally had them.


There's no Heroin in your pills. It's not orally active for the most part - the enzymes in your stomach will destroy the majority of it. Not to mention, the amount of Heroin needed to get high orally, wouldn't be enough to fit in a pill press...

Heroin in your MDxx is a myth:

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=116




yeah your fucking retard no offense i used to eat herion licking a empty heroin bag could make me high on dope cause i had no tolerence once i licked 10 bags that werent scrapped off course and almost ODed. alot of dope sticks to the sides. any who dope is orally active just like codeine,morphine and all those other opiates like the amount of dope in one bag is like 1/4 the size of a pill crushed or even less... and yeah totally orally active you doubt it go buy a bag of heroin and eat it if you havent done dope before i dont suggest eating the whole thing cause you can OD. yep vast majority of dope i had was oral rather then snorted


final word is yeah you have to take double that amount oral but when you take in acount the size of the bag thats not alot of stuff. 1/8 of a bag of dope would get me really high, oral i would need 1/4th of a bag yeah its way more but its still not alot of stuff. the amount of heroin in a bag is less then the amount of k in a 20 bag of k which is .1


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

Edited by thedudenj (09/08/09 10:36 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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Yeah I don't really give a fuck what erowid or pillreports says. There are H bombs around and I've had plenty. Idk about the rest of the US but back in Dallas H was pretty big. Especially around the same time all the kids were doing "cheese". Not every pill pressed gets widely distributed and documented on pillreports, in dallas there are several local chemists responsible for consistent high quality MDMA rolls along with every variation you can imagine in an x pill. Including heroin.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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i still dont believe you

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: indica]
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xk3m_indica said:
i still dont believe you


and i still don't care lol

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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yeah people with pill presses an acess to dope can do it i tottally had one with it before it was a mix of alot of things it was so shitty.

cheese is horrible i never had any of that luckily but that type of drug totally boosts the effects of opiates i mixed H bomb with datura before.

aside from that i had some of then Fent dope thank god i only ate the stuff it was powerful


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.


Heroin doesn't feel like MDMA.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Lol yeah man I've had pure molly, and I've had heroin. When I'm on pure molly I atleast have the will to get up and move around and dance my ass off, where as heroin it's more like I'd be more comfortable just sitting/laying where I'm already at. H bombs definately do exist, I can't see why people don't believe that.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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mdma floors me, i hardly want to move when I'm on the stuff. :shrug:

i just sit there and let my eyes roll around in the back of my head like a retard

mda, on the other hand, makes me want to kill people with happiness and dance like a motherbitch

Edited by indica (09/09/09 12:35 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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Yup, they believe everything they read and dont believe actual experience.  Shroomery seems to have a lot of disbelief these days.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
Yup, they believe everything they read and dont believe actual experience.  Shroomery seems to have a lot of disbelief these days.


I believe you, based on what you guys have said (mostly thedudenj convinced me), but you do realize the complete irony in that statement right?

Edited by krypto2000 (09/09/09 12:39 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: indica]
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yeah I understand that feeling when you're peaking, or maybe taken a little bit too much. i honestly never liked being THAT fucked up on molly though. i like just having the initial rush of euphoria then being able to dance around talking to everybody i see hitting on all the girls with ease. fun times. i miss clubbing

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
mattritt said:
Yup, they believe everything they read and dont believe actual experience.  Shroomery seems to have a lot of disbelief these days.


I believe you, based on what you guys have said (mostly thedudenj convinced me), but you do realize the complete irony in that statement right?


Ehh somewhat, but I meant that they belive what they read somewhere over something that someone actually experienced.  Whether I wrote it or told it to you in person.  It just so happens the our means of communication is through text.

I get what you mean though.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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mdma makes you feel mushed out like a pile of humanness but would the small amount of morphine from these orally ingested "h-bombs" make this occur? did the people who got the "h-bombs" feel the mdma or not?

just a question

and pure molly is safer then most drugs... not recommended to dose more then your sweet spot more then once... if you redose, you putting more strain on your brain, and if you do you really should do it sooner then later and safe your brain the extra expense.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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yeah heroin totally doesnt thats why if you know what both feel like you can totally tell. i deffinatly got a dopey pill with literal dope


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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xk3m_indica said:
mdma floors me, i hardly want to move when I'm on the stuff. :shrug:

i just sit there and let my eyes roll around in the back of my head like a retard





Cognitive_Shift said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.


Heroin doesn't feel like MDMA.


OBVIOUSLY... uninformed people who are used to speedy pills will believe otherwise which is why the perpetuating rumor lives on.

If you actually believe your Ecstasy contains Heroin, or that it is because you "have a connect to Heroin containing Ecstasy pills" then everything you say is automatically nullified from here on out. 

Go sign up on Bluelight.ru, go to Ecstasy Discussion, make a thread that says "I got Heroin in my Ecstasy" and watch everyone make fun of you (make sure you insist on your presses containing Heroin, also that you licked bags of Heroin before and got high because you had no tolerance, therefore obviously it means you could fit Heroin into a press [along with all the other binding agents, active and non-active adulterants, oh and the 50-100mg MDxx]...) There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy. Stop spreading misinformation, and myths...

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_info11.shtml

Edited by BiG_StroOnZ (09/09/09 02:55 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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nah im 100% theres people that have peoples that dont have heroin and think there is but i also belive theres cases of actual heroin.

its funny people shut up about heroin not being orally active i wonder if they went and tried it lol


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
nah im 100% theres people that have peoples that dont have heroin and think there is but i also belive theres cases of actual heroin.

its funny people shut up about heroin not being orally active i wonder if they went and tried it lol


The issue though, is this sort of misconception is akin to people buying Ecstasy and getting a roll that contains MDA. Then insisting it was "laced with acid."

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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how rare are pure mdma pills?


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: hobomusashi]
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hobomusashi said:
how rare are pure mdma pills?



I would say it probably depends on the area you're in....

Pills with nothing but MDMA (and some binder of course), nothing more nothing less....Aren't all to common, or aren't nearly as common as they used to be.


Considering how many pills there are out that have been cut, sure you may get a pill with some MDMA...But how much MDMA and is that the only active substance in that pill?


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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Yeah it really depends on how well you're connected and the area you're in. For the most part you can expect your pills to be MDMA with some kind of amphetamine which are alooooot of fun as long as you don't mind the crash and don't do them often. Your best bet is to buy a test kit and buy 1 pill at a time until you find one that's clean, and stock up on em when you do. After enough socializing in your scene it's generally not to hard to find pure molly caps which are far better than buying cut pills IME.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.


Heroin doesn't feel like MDMA.


exactly. I know this is beating a dead horse, but goddamn, for fuck's sake, if it's not heroin that was in whatever doped-up pill I had, it was definitely SOME kind of opiate.


I have a question...that day-after sensation of the roof of your mouth being painfully sucked up towards the top of your skull...is that from MDMA, MDA, both, or more likely from some other type of drug like maybe an amphetamine? It's been so long I can't remember if there were times I didn't really get that sensation. I know the last time, I didn't, and I had a pretty clean but also moderately weak pill.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: nIkkNAME]
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nIkkNAME said:
How is it possible to get non-street pills? o.0


by making it.
i made some before.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: elementswrath]
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nIkkNAME said:
How is it possible to get non-street pills? o.0


Buy pure MDMA.  1 gram looks like this.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
nIkkNAME said:
How is it possible to get non-street pills? o.0


Buy pure MDMA.  1 gram looks like this.


but realize that buying molly doesn't necessarily mean it's actually pure MDMA, it will and can still be adulterated, but mostly adulterated with non-active substances (fillers) unless you're getting it directly from the chemist

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
thedudenj said:
nah im 100% theres people that have peoples that dont have heroin and think there is but i also belive theres cases of actual heroin.

its funny people shut up about heroin not being orally active i wonder if they went and tried it lol





The issue though, is this sort of misconception is akin to people buying Ecstasy and getting a roll that contains MDA. Then insisting it was "laced with acid."


actually people actually do that put a drop of liquid on the roll thats usually not sold tho people just do it some times.




as for the molly yeah people totally can and do cut it as well as sell other things as it.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
actually people actually do that put a drop of liquid on the roll thats usually not sold tho people just do it some times.



but anybody who actually wants to candy flip properly wont do that    :laugh:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
I have a question...that day-after sensation of the roof of your mouth being painfully sucked up towards the top of your skull...is that from MDMA, MDA, both, or more likely from some other type of drug like maybe an amphetamine? It's been so long I can't remember if there were times I didn't really get that sensation. I know the last time, I didn't, and I had a pretty clean but also moderately weak pill.



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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
I have a question...that day-after sensation of the roof of your mouth being painfully sucked up towards the top of your skull...is that from MDMA, MDA, both, or more likely from some other type of drug like maybe an amphetamine? It's been so long I can't remember if there were times I didn't really get that sensation. I know the last time, I didn't, and I had a pretty clean but also moderately weak pill.


I've never experienced this on MDMA, MDA, or any analog of MDMA

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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ha, i know mdma... ive seen the rock it was chipped off, so i know what my shit be.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Yea i dont know what the sucked up roof of the mouth is.  But I do get an AWEFUL jaw pain the next day from molly.  I get clench jaw like a bastard off shard, and eye wiggles (kinda cool).  Ive never eaten pure molly and sat down.  Im usually seething with happiness and dancing my ass off, even in higher doses.  Though I dont think I could take molly if I wasn't at a rave or festi.

Ive had a friend rail 200 mgs of VERY PURE shard at once and he sure as fuck wasnt sitting.  So I know if i eat a pill and want to sit down and be overwhelmed with euphoria its an opiate.  Ive had em atleast twice.  One was a FATASS pill.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
the bizzle said:
I have a question...that day-after sensation of the roof of your mouth being painfully sucked up towards the top of your skull...is that from MDMA, MDA, both, or more likely from some other type of drug like maybe an amphetamine? It's been so long I can't remember if there were times I didn't really get that sensation. I know the last time, I didn't, and I had a pretty clean but also moderately weak pill.



super quote!
anyways, my thoughts be "no" it isn't more likely another drug. both mdma and amphetamines would produce similar dry mouth effects suchs as the one you described which i've gotten from not drinkign enough water through the trip like an idiot, i forgot to bring a water bottle.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
thedudenj said:
actually people actually do that put a drop of liquid on the roll thats usually not sold tho people just do it some times.



but anybody who actually wants to candy flip properly wont do that    :laugh:




do ravers tend to do things proper?:confused:

explain when ravers decided to do things properly??? :strokebeard:



i never get jaw clenching anymore, hang overs from it in any way any more. also i rare if almost never drink water while on it and rave i just roll and roll face


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
So I know if i eat a pill and want to sit down and be overwhelmed with euphoria its an opiate.


I get this feeling on MDMA and MDA all the time everytime (past a certain mg)... so no, it's not an opiate.

thedudenj said:
do ravers tend to do things proper?:confused:

explain when ravers decided to do things properly??? :strokebeard:



uninformed newbs to the scene maybe

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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yeah 70% of any scene or so seems like new people the new people out weight the old at big ones for sure


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
So I know if i eat a pill and want to sit down and be overwhelmed with euphoria its an opiate.


I get this feeling on MDMA and MDA all the time everytime (past a certain mg)... so no, it's not an opiate.




Wow, thats one oh the most ignorant of your statements yet.  I said I (as in ME not YOU, ME) never want to sit down EVER and opiate euphoria is totally different than MDMA euphoria.  Ive eaten tons of pure shard.  I KNOW WHAT MDMA IS AND FEELS LIKE!! Get it through your skull.  I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!  There is NO WAY IN HELL you could mistake MDMA for an opiate.  Youd have to be a fucking retard.

Get over it, youre wrong.  Ive eaten them myself, they are fucking out there.  Just cause youve never seen them means nothing.  Come on down to my area.  Ill get you a handful with damn near anything in em.  Ive had ones with cocaine in them too.  Ofcourse youll try to tell me people don't do that but its futile to argue it because they do.  There are tons of fucking idiots in my city that will press ANYTHING into a pill, and just as many idiots thatll eat em and love em cause they think its MDMA (you) when its fucking heroin.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
So I know if i eat a pill and want to sit down and be overwhelmed with euphoria its an opiate.


I get this feeling on MDMA and MDA all the time everytime (past a certain mg)... so no, it's not an opiate.




Wow, thats one oh the most ignorant of your statements yet.  I said I (as in ME not YOU, ME) never want to sit down EVER and opiate euphoria is totally different than MDMA euphoria.  Ive eaten tons of pure shard.  I KNOW WHAT MDMA IS AND FEELS LIKE!! Get it through your skull.  I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!  There is NO WAY IN HELL you could mistake MDMA for an opiate.  Youd have to be a fucking retard.

Get over it, youre wrong.  Ive eaten them myself, they are fucking out there.  Just cause youve never seen them means nothing.  Come on down to my area.  Ill get you a handful with damn near anything in em.  Ive had ones with cocaine in them too.  Ofcourse youll try to tell me people don't do that but its futile to argue it because they do.  There are tons of fucking idiots in my city that will press ANYTHING into a pill, and just as many idiots thatll eat em and love em cause they think its MDMA (you) when its fucking heroin.


LOL, slow down there turbo. There's no Heroin or other Opiates in your presses, 99.9% of the time. Do you understand probability? Also, I doubt that anybody who believes MDxx contains Heroin is getting any kind of "pure shard," directly from a chemist. Your molly is adulterated too.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
Cognitive_Shift said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.


Heroin doesn't feel like MDMA.


exactly. I know this is beating a dead horse, but goddamn, for fuck's sake, if it's not heroin that was in whatever doped-up pill I had, it was definitely SOME kind of opiate.




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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
the bizzle said:
Cognitive_Shift said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.


Heroin doesn't feel like MDMA.


exactly. I know this is beating a dead horse, but goddamn, for fuck's sake, if it's not heroin that was in whatever doped-up pill I had, it was definitely SOME kind of opiate.




Data and research tell us it's not.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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plus really, how powerful is this opiate effect anyway... you'd figure that the overwhelming amount of mdma over the opiate would render it almost too subtle to notice much of a difference.

so what are we getting here? H? Morphine? Hydromorphone?  OXYS IN OUR PILLS! oh well... noone of them in an mount to over power mdma or deadness occurs.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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i agree its like .1% of the time or something


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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i coulda swore once i got coke pills but then i thought about the fact that it was probably an unusual amount of caffiene probably. but youo know, i guess it's possible to get absoulutely anything about .1% of the time. :laugh:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
So I know if i eat a pill and want to sit down and be overwhelmed with euphoria its an opiate.


I get this feeling on MDMA and MDA all the time everytime (past a certain mg)... so no, it's not an opiate.




Wow, thats one oh the most ignorant of your statements yet.  I said I (as in ME not YOU, ME) never want to sit down EVER and opiate euphoria is totally different than MDMA euphoria.  Ive eaten tons of pure shard.  I KNOW WHAT MDMA IS AND FEELS LIKE!! Get it through your skull.  I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!  There is NO WAY IN HELL you could mistake MDMA for an opiate.  Youd have to be a fucking retard.

Get over it, youre wrong.  Ive eaten them myself, they are fucking out there.  Just cause youve never seen them means nothing.  Come on down to my area.  Ill get you a handful with damn near anything in em.  Ive had ones with cocaine in them too.  Ofcourse youll try to tell me people don't do that but its futile to argue it because they do.  There are tons of fucking idiots in my city that will press ANYTHING into a pill, and just as many idiots thatll eat em and love em cause they think its MDMA (you) when its fucking heroin.


LOL, slow down there turbo. There's no Heroin or other Opiates in your presses, 99.9% of the time. Do you understand probability? Also, I doubt that anybody who believes MDxx contains Heroin is getting any kind of "pure shard," directly from a chemist. Your molly is adulterated too.


My Mollys adulterated??? OK :rolleyes:

Ive crushed fat clear chunks of MDMA up before doing it.  If its a solid crystal then its pure.  Maybe youre getting adulterated molly but im sure as hell not.  I wouldnt buy molly if it was a powder that could have been cut.  Thats plain stupid.  Ive had pure MDMA, Ive had pure MDA, Ive had pure 2C-b straight from the chemist, I no longer do a drug unless I know its pure.  Im sorry if you do, but thats just bad practice.  I care about my body.

But at any rate, youve got some data but not ALL data.  Also in the H pills ive had (when i was young and still ate pills) there wasnt any MDxx, it was all H.  Thats how I know.  Im done arguing, nothing I say will change your ignorance.  You can read your erowid question that was answered YEARS ago, and read the minimal reports on the internet but maybe you should actually go out and see for yourself.  They arent hard to find.  Like I said come down here.  Ill gladly get you a whole bag full of em.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
My Mollys adulterated??? OK :rolleyes:

Ive crushed fat clear chunks of MDMA up before doing it.  If its a solid crystal then its pure.  Maybe youre getting adulterated molly but im sure as hell not.  I wouldnt buy molly if it was a powder that could have been cut.  Thats plain stupid.  Ive had pure MDMA, Ive had pure MDA, Ive had pure 2C-b straight from the chemist, I no longer do a drug unless I know its pure.  Im sorry if you do, but thats just bad practice.  I care about my body.

But at any rate, youve got some data but not ALL data.  Also in the H pills ive had (when i was young and still ate pills) there wasnt any MDxx, it was all H.  Thats how I know.  Im done arguing, nothing I say will change your ignorance.  You can read your erowid question that was answered YEARS ago, and read the minimal reports on the internet but maybe you should actually go out and see for yourself.  They arent hard to find.  Like I said come down here.  Ill gladly get you a whole bag full of em.


The odds of you getting Ecstasy pills containing Heroin or any other opiate are the same as winning the lottery. Actually, you have a better chance of winning the lottery...

Therefore you must understand, nothing you say can be taken seriously because you actually believe that not only have you had Ecstasy that contains opiates or heroin in the past, but that you can consistently get them.

If you're so confident that you have had, and still can get Heroin containing pills. Then send them into Ecstasydata.org or Pillreports to be tested.

Even better yet look through here:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/search.php?searchid=4310484

If you still believe that your Ecstasy contains Heroin after reading through all of that, your ignorance is only second to your arrogance.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Its actually pretty common in St Louis, your astronomical probability theory is way off.  I dont care enough to send a pill in just to prove a point, nor would I touch a press again.  Im not even in St Louis anymore.  What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?  Do you know that they put fucking cow dewormers in pills??? And you wouldnt believe heroin?  Because you havent read it somewhere else?  The gangs in the area dont give a fuck what happens to their customers.  Also the gansters dont test their pill nor have they ever even heard of MDMA, so they dont give a flying fuck whats in it aslong as it gets em fucked up.  Its a pity these days when people cant even believe somebody that tells them about a first hand experience.  I have no reason to lie, and i know what Im talking about.  Im not stupid.  I have done damn near every drug except some obscure RCs.  I also have tons of psychedelics, including pure Molly, in my stash right now.  And yes its pure shards no adulterants I got it from the same guy that I got my LSD from, WoW.  The fam doesnt cut their shit and theyre the only ones I trust to get L from.

Ive also had pharm grade MDMA at a Richie Hawtin show from a chemist buddy, whether you believe me or not.  Im sorry if you cant get stuff like that in your area.  Maybe check in on the local rave scene.  Youd be surprised whats going around in your own backyard.

By the way, there's chemists everywhere. :wink:


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?


Heroin is much more expensive than MDMA.

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Honestly you're the idiot for being so close minded as to believe there's 100% no possible way ever somone would dose h in an x pill. They are out there. But obviously this argument is never ending and I have nothing else to say.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?


Heroin is more expensive than MDMA.

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.


you may be forgetting that at some point a single X pill would go for $25. It's not too hard to imagine that if molly was less available, they would add whatever the fuck they could to make that $25 and still leave you willing to spend another $25 per pill

also, just because the street price of heroin is so high doesnt mean it's more expensive to make. you can get a bottle of 90 hydrocodone pills for what, like 30 bucks, and the street price of each one of those pills is at least $5...that's $450 for $30, when I'm sure it cost even less to make


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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blazenn said:
Honestly you're the idiot for being so close minded as to believe there's 100% no possible way ever somone would dose h in an x pill. They are out there. But obviously this argument is never ending and I have nothing else to say.


Anything is possible, but probability tells us NO. Years of data and research tells us NO. Is it possible, yes, likely no.

Only the uninformed believe there's Heroin in their pills. 

the bizzle said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?


Heroin is more expensive than MDMA.

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.


you may be forgetting that at some point a single X pill would go for $25. It's not too hard to imagine that if molly was less available, they would add whatever the fuck they could to make that $25 and still leave you willing to spend another $25 per pill


No they wouldn't because there are plenty of other more cost effective adulterants you could use. Why would they put Heroin in their presses when they could just sell that to the fiends?

The idea of a Heroin "laced or cut" Ecstasy comes from the "smacky" feeling you will get from a true MDMA pill in a reasonable dose. Basically it will sit you on your ass and many people including myself when I use a heavy dose will veg out for long periods of time if allowed to. NO there is no heroin in pills but the result of a good strong dose of MDMA can be similar, sort of.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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i would agree with both sides (:D)

soem people confuse the "smacky" feeling with really good mdma (as in not pressed shit) and some people may have put heroin in presses before, which is fucking stupid for more then one reason. "omg 5mg of heroin my pill im so f0rked now!11"

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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your argument is fail
i could say only the uniformed DONT think there's h pills and have just as much credibility as you.
back when i was in the scene i had personal connections that pressed pills. i can guarantee h pills are out there

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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I think YOU might not be getting MDMA if it sits you down.  Ive NEVER seen anyone sit down or laid out on MDMA.  It always has everyone Ive ever seen do it bouncing off the walls chewing through their jaw with pupils the size of flying saucers.  You wanna know why they cut em with heroin THEYRE FUCKING IDIOTS i told you that already twice.  You've never been to St Louis obviously.  When you go down into the city its full of stupid fucks that dont know a damn thing about drugs.  They just wanna make money.  You say its possible and then right afterwards say i havent had em :facepalm:  Ive had em, theres no denying it.  Stupid people make em and they sell em and people buy em, end of story.  Whats so hard to believe about small circulation pills not showing up on pill reports.  Find me green horse heads on there, not mustangs horse heads.  Find blue teddy bears.  Those are just two pills I can think of that i couldnt find on there.  I never ate em since I couldnt find em on there so I couldnt tell you how they were, but I can tell you ive had opiate presses before no doubt in my mind. 

Why do you think I cant distinguish opiate high from an MDMA high huh??  They are NOTHING alike.  NOTHING!!


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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you can't go by the pill reports. a pink dolphin in NYC is not the same as a pink dolphin in bumfuck mississippi, and a pink dolphin in 2001 is almost definitely not the same as a pink dolphin in 2008


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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^^^EXACTLY pill reports is a great resource but not a definite thing.  Alot of people on there dont even know what theyre talking about too.  In my opinion FUCK presses.  I dont even know why Im still arguing about them, probably because I feel hes insulting my intelligence with every post he makes.  Quite disrespectful.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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lol, i've spent personal trips just finding new spots to laze around on and look around and think... and i only visited like 5 different spots!(on one occasion) (living room, bedroom, backyard swingseat, outdoors near a river and another indirect location) with the exception of the last spot, i found myself laying and enjoying my body buzz and clearity of mind (thoughts were abstracted enough that they weren't distracting) for literally half hour, 50 minutes... it was my first time on mdma. so my experience validates you can get smacky on PURE CRYSTAL MDMA UNCAPPED AND CRASHED AND SWALLOWED. fucking shit feels like it's making corrosive fumes in your mouth. but it was so awesome. then never could find again until pills... then to methbombs later i am done with pills and have a wodnerful moll guy. :laugh:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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so...just out of curiosity, because I want to know more about pure MDMA...does this smacky give you a dreadful withdrawl feeling the next day?


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Well ive never heard that one before but I believe you.  Corrosive fumes??  I always thought it tasted like black liqourice, even Jager but it does have a chemical bite too.  Next time you eat some nice molly think about it.  It really does in my opinion.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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blazenn said:
back when i was in the scene i had personal connections that pressed pills. i can guarantee h pills are out there


I highly doubt it.

Your pills don't contain Heroin, or any other Opiate...


mattritt said:
Ive NEVER seen anyone sit down or laid out on MDMA.  It always has everyone Ive ever seen do it bouncing off the walls chewing through their jaw with pupils the size of flying saucers.


That's because they're meth bombs.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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erm^

and yeah... i'd assume smackyness means lots of sero flooding meaning one took alot and at higher risk for hangover. i never get hangover effects from mdma, though... if i dose to high though my empty mindedness afterwards could be interpreted as depressing. but i like my mind empty anyways so it never bugs me.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
you can't go by the pill reports. a pink dolphin in NYC is not the same as a pink dolphin in bumfuck mississippi, and a pink dolphin in 2001 is almost definitely not the same as a pink dolphin in 2008


exactly. i don't understand why people 100% rely on pillreports. it's like they think every x pill comes from one source and don't realize just how many underground chemists are pushing this thing.



and if you've never been stuck to your seat on mdma you haven't dosed high enough to get such an effect. there's a point when your eyes "roll to the back of your head" so to speak, you chew on your tongue obsessively without realizing it, and the only thought in your mind is "im rolling balls, this is heaven"
i've only experienced it once or twice and never wanted to venture into that high of a dose again, but i have friends that do that shit weekly, or used to anyway



and to stroonz. doubt all you want. i don't give a fuck. i know where i've been and i know what i've seen and what pills i've eaten. i have had x pills with h in them. goodbye

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
the bizzle said:
you can't go by the pill reports. a pink dolphin in NYC is not the same as a pink dolphin in bumfuck mississippi, and a pink dolphin in 2001 is almost definitely not the same as a pink dolphin in 2008


exactly. i don't understand why people 100% rely on pillreports. it's like they think every x pill comes from one source and don't realize just how many underground chemists are pushing this thing.

and to stroonz. doubt all you want. i don't give a fuck. i know where i've been and i know what i've seen and what pills i've eaten. i have had x pills with h in them. goodbye


Who relies solely on Pillreports? Get a test kit.


Anyway, you gotta think about it like this. The person synthesizing MDMA  producing between 20-100 lb of MDMA pays like 50 cents for each pill.

WHY IN THE WORLD would a producer want to put Heroin into pills when the pills are fine already? That would just be wasting SO much money, because selling it as Heroin would yield 10x more money.

It's just really not common sense in the eyes of a chemist. ESPECIALLY with heroin...lets go buy a (basically) orally INACTIVE compound that costs MORE than MDMA itself, and put it into our pills? When we could just sell our pills at the same price and also sell the heroin at a much higher price?

First of all, like 80% of oral heroin or morphine is eaten by the stomach before it absorbs. It just doesn't make any sense. It's kind of like putting K into E pills....I really just don't get it. Oral Ketamine is so weak....

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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are you illiterate or just retarted? i don't give a fuck about your internet sources
have you met a chemist? have you used, no have you even seen a pill press?
ok thanks just checking.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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God your ignorant.  Meth doesnt do that at all.  Its molly, eye wigglin, jaw clenchin, molly.  Im not positive but im pretty damn sure meth barely dilates your pupils if at all.  Youve got to be one of the least educated people ive talked to on the shroomery, seriously.  Grow up, get out in the world.  Maybe youll learn that some people know things that you dont.  You believe some stupid shit from years ago written by god knows who, but you dont believe people that are active in the scene day in and day out.  Where are you from, under a rock???


Sorry for being so disrespectful but all of your posts are totally ignorant and disrespectful to the people that you quoted.  Right now theres about 5 people who say theyve had em and one that says he was involved in production or distribution or something, against your one second hand word that wont back down because youd look like a total fool at this point.

(you already do so it wouldnt matter anyways)


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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like i said, heroin or not, I've definitely had a pill once that had more opiate than anything

but what I want to know is...does pure molly give you a horrible shitty dreadful withdrawal feeling the next day?


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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meth dilates your pupils man

and I'VE SEEN retards who can't tell a meth dose from an mdma dose and think they are one in the same because they feel "VERY SLIGHTLY" similar.

so again, i see no reason to not understand the oither dudes point of view.

Edited by akira_akuma (09/09/09 11:47 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Out of 1668 Ecstasy samples tested by EcstasyData:

1 contained Heroin
3 contained Fentanyl

So you can be pretty sure that none of the pills you'll ever take in your life will actually contain such things.

Anyone who claims (and are 100% positive) to have Heroin or other opiates in their Ecstasy just loses more credibility.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
like i said, heroin or not, I've definitely had a pill once that had more opiate than anything

but what I want to know is...does pure molly give you a horrible shitty dreadful withdrawal feeling the next day?


almost never unless you expect something similar that you'd be getting with amp laced dirt pills. i mean, you could trick your brain into thinking that. you might also feel not quite up to sober standard of course, with molly... because the next day after being through so much bliss... you really haven't got much to say and maybe might feel  bit off with people. some call it a dpressing crash, i say it's time for quite(er)  reflection.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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pure molly IME has never given me a shitty comedown the next day. you do feel a bit more drained and some people experience some depression, even from pure molly. but honestly it's not even as bad as being hungover. and if you compliment it with some herb there's generally no comedown to speak of whatsoever



holy shit you must be severely illiterate. for the last time, i have PERSONALLY met people that do the pill pressing, and i have never once seen any of their presses on pill reports. majority of the time it was pure mdma and a filler in their pills, but on more than one occasion they've added speed, heroin, and even meth (nasty)
each time you claim the internet to be more valid than my personal connects you prove to be more and more of a dumbass.

edit: i only admit to knowing these sources because i'm no longer affiliated with them and don't plan on being involved with such things ever again. and no i never distributed only partook in the doses.

Edited by blazenn (09/09/09 11:48 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
holy shit you must be severely illiterate. for the last time, i have PERSONALLY met people that do the pill pressing, and i have never once seen any of their presses on pill reports. majority of the time it was pure mdma and a filler in their pills, but on more than one occasion they've added speed, heroin, and even meth (nasty)
each time you claim the internet to be more valid than my personal connects you prove to be more and more of a dumbass.


You're clearly lying to support your claim that Heroin is in Ecstasy. I also like the edit, that was smooth, but only if you're completely brainless.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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no offense but the other dude is coming off goofy as well.

mdma making you jump of the walls? who do you hang out with, adrenaline junkies? tell them to get some methbombs then, jeeez.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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lies? nah
with every post you prove to be more and more of a douchebag, and if you weren't a douchebag you wouldn't have opted out of ratings, cause everyone would rate you exactly that. a douchebag

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
lies? nah
with every post you prove to be more and more of a douchebag, and if you weren't a douchebag you wouldn't have opted out of ratings, cause everyone would rate you exactly that. a douchebag


At least I don't lie on the internet to support my claims.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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what makes you think i'm lieing?

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #11031731 -

lol, wtf is your deal stroonz yo mandinga let people be people... stupid.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
what makes you think i'm lieing?


You're some random anonymous guy on the internet, claiming to have Heroin in his pills because he once knew the chemist who made presses with it...

It's pretty obvious.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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i wouldnt expect somone whos never been in that situation to believe me.
chemists aren't as rare as you think bud

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
lol, wtf is your deal stroonz yo mandinga let people be people... stupid.


I can't stand people spreading mythography on a daily basis.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
Out of 1668 Ecstasy samples tested by EcstasyData:

1 contained Heroin
3 contained Fentanyl

So you can be pretty sure that none of the pills you'll ever take in your life will actually contain such things.

Anyone who claims (and are 100% positive) to have Heroin or other opiates in their Ecstasy just loses more credibility.


I'm sorry, but this statement was retarded.

out of 1668 samples tested, I'm presuming which were sent in from various locations, 1 was heroin.

1 was heroin, and therefore, you can be sure that none of the pills you've ever taken had heroin in them.



out of 1668 people that were sampled, only one of them was Somoan. Therefore, you can be sure that no people you have met or ever will meet in your life will actually be Somoan.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
i wouldnt expect somone whos never been in that situation to believe me.
chemists aren't as rare as you think bud


It has nothing to do with Chemists being rare, it has to do with Chemists making money and they aren't going to make money by putting Heroin in their Ecstasy presses...

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
Out of 1668 Ecstasy samples tested by EcstasyData:

1 contained Heroin
3 contained Fentanyl

So you can be pretty sure that none of the pills you'll ever take in your life will actually contain such things.

Anyone who claims (and are 100% positive) to have Heroin or other opiates in their Ecstasy just loses more credibility.


I'm sorry, but this statement was retarded.

out of 1668 samples tested, I'm presuming which were sent in from various locations, 1 was heroin.

1 was heroin, and therefore, you can be sure that none of the pills you've ever taken had heroin in them.



It's called probability... and your analogy doesn't work in this situation.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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ok is a chemist who enjoys heroin with his mdma going to go to a club rolling, and risk shooting up right there on the spot? fuck no
they're gonna make it as concealable as popping a pill and combine the two into one little pill. then distribute so anyone else who enjoys that combo can do so discretely as well.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
ok is a chemist who enjoys heroin with his mdma going to go to a club rolling, and risk shooting up right there on the spot? fuck no
they're gonna make it as concealable as popping a pill and combine the two into one little pill. then distribute so anyone else who enjoys that combo can do so discretely as well.


Great scenario.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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i'd say the opiate buzz is subtle but i've only had codiene (:P)
and amps... overpower E but is still subtle enough to not disrupt the mdma buzz if there is one at all with said pill. and meth you'd know about from lots of signs. one being the numbness and tightness of your skin and muscle and then another is the fact that your face is making retarded exaggerations of what it's trying to do and you think you can talk to someone straight but you act the fool and you stay up for the night and still don't wanna eat the next day, your tripping out over trees following your and people shifting through the trees because of being wired all night and day with this flight and fight response...


methbombs were funny, but wow... fucked.

oh yeah llololol, no man... molly... wouldn't give a shitty comedown unless you took like 300 400 mgs.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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believe what you want. i really don't give a fuck.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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in all honestly, all i care about is why someone would waste good heroin on this idea. i mean, yes safty... but mdma and heroin? WHY?!

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
in all honestly, all i care about is why someone would waste good heroin on this idea. i mean, yes safty... but mdma and heroin? WHY?!


Just registered basically with a hundred posts, and has more common sense then most of the members in here.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
the bizzle said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
Out of 1668 Ecstasy samples tested by EcstasyData:

1 contained Heroin
3 contained Fentanyl

So you can be pretty sure that none of the pills you'll ever take in your life will actually contain such things.

Anyone who claims (and are 100% positive) to have Heroin or other opiates in their Ecstasy just loses more credibility.


I'm sorry, but this statement was retarded.

out of 1668 samples tested, I'm presuming which were sent in from various locations, 1 was heroin.

1 was heroin, and therefore, you can be sure that none of the pills you've ever taken had heroin in them.



It's called probability... and your analogy doesn't work in this situation.


Yes it does. you are just making more and more of an ass of yourself.

there is a similar probability to winning the lottery. Are you going to tell somebody who won the lottery that based on probability, even though you admit that there is such a thing as the lottery, that no they didn't?

damn, dude... I can respect and believe that the probability is extremely unlikely, and that I probably will never again encounter an opiated pill, but unless you can come up with a REALLY good candidate for what else could have possibly been in that one pill to feel so distinctly opiated, then you are just being a stubborn jerk.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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<<<< points to avatar

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
Ok  :rolleyes: I know what pure MDMA feels like dude, ive eaten enough shard.  I also know what opiates feel like.  Dont act like Im stupid and cant tell the difference.  That IS NOT what MDMA feels like.  MDMA is a VERY distinct high.  You can believe what you want, but they are out there.  Ive personally had them.


There's no Heroin in your pills. It's not orally active for the most part - the enzymes in your stomach will destroy the majority of it. Not to mention, the amount of Heroin needed to get high orally, wouldn't be enough to fit in a pill press...

Heroin in your MDxx is a myth:

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=116


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you are probably both right... one got an h-bomb more then once(extremely rare unless you're in a shitty and i mean shittay city) and one is right about posting statistically (some people get stats more then others) that is almost impossible that ONE will get and h-bomb unless extremely unlucky/lucky.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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^Yeah, facts don't work with these people apparently - I'm the ignorant one though...

the bizzle said:
but unless you can come up with a REALLY good candidate for what else could have possibly been in that one pill to feel so distinctly opiated


Set & Setting.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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^ fair and plausible

like i've had mdma make me feel so on top of things i could "feel" like... "FEEEL" like i could run up and down the street (not really lol) but getting up to go do that would probably result in me tripping on my own two feet down the stairs and wanting to laugh off my exuberance. and then i've had more normal trips where the logical approch was "i'm feeling great lets no move and spoil the moment unless it's importent. lets not speak unless needed... lets not trow on entertainment unless needed.

sounds remotely like an opiate exprience I had once...

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:23 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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post denied. insufficient funds


(again, I am still not claiming this ONE pill I ONCE had was heroin, but it was definitely something that wasnt mdma, mda, or speed, and definitely extremely opiate-like, if it wasn't an opiate...set and setting were not the factor)


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
post denied. insufficient funds


(again, I am still not claiming this ONE pill I ONCE had was heroin, but it was definitely something that wasnt mdma, mda, or speed, and definitely extremely opiate-like, if it wasn't an opiate...set and setting were not the factor)

possible dxm? ketamine?
lol dxm would be stupid, but it's possible without much of a dose at all to have small experience and othrwise probably harmful effects of taking it with mdma.

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:25 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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mmmmmmm...not DXM...I wouldn't know if it was K though, although it was significantly less "trippy" or whatever than typical X, which further points to an opiate. My idea is not carved in stone, but it definitely felt distinctly opiate. I am open to other possibilities, but I definitely know a few of the things it wasn't.



(I also know that 99% does not equal 100%, just random fyi)


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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well, k has an opiate like effect and oral k wouldn't do much to you in that dosage level except maybe opiate you. (i believe that ketamine does do something to opiate receptors on the body right?)

actually it's probably not K, although another possiblity.

but my last standing on this issues is get pure "shard" in capsules or otherwise. pressed in not the way especially if there is retards putting heroin in them making useless for anyone looking for upliftment.

yeah, i think i made that word up.

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:35 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
well, k has an opiate like effect and oral k wouldn't do much to you in that dosage level except maybe opiate you. (i believe that ketamine does do something to opiate receptors on the body right?)


would it last a long time and have an absolutely dreadful comedown that not even a substantial amount of benzos could help? (I've never done K)


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
akira_akuma said:
well, k has an opiate like effect and oral k wouldn't do much to you in that dosage level except maybe opiate you. (i believe that ketamine does do something to opiate receptors on the body right?)


would it last a long time and have an absolutely dreadful comedown that not even a substantial amount of benzos could help? (I've never done K)


nope
not at all

read above post again... but seriously... sounds like DXM to me dude. maybe fentynal if it was an opiate. nothign else sounds right to me.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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well I'm glad we could at least try to narrow this down like adults instead of flaming each other
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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle do you remember what your pupils looked like?

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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one can't judge the others experience but based on his or her own. it's completely meritted that everyone got their opinion here. flaming isn't whats wrong, it's the lower then par attempt at fashioning a conclusive stance on the authority on said subject.

fentanyl is something i'd hate to get laced in my anything... e, heroin anything, so if that was it i'm sorry and i hope it never happens again... not knockin opiates but that shit is way too hardcore. i doubt you got it though, man... it's really impossible to say... i can only say that if it wasn't just mdma it wasn't far off from being mdma because with pure molly... you don't always know what you are gonna get because you are assuring yourself (weather you know it then or not) that you are going to be aging on a trip. like mushrooms... the mdma trip can result in different subjective effects. ever seen someone get irritable on a 150 mg dose? i have and it can happen... it's just a paranoid mind trip that can get laid on you and you can completely be without fear of reproach yet still can help but talk shit, start shit, wander around in daze distracting yourself with "feeling good about listen to music" when your really just havign a shitty trip in your OWN SUJECTIVE EXPERIENCE.

sorry i rambled

BiG_StroOnZ said:
the bizzle do you remember what your pupils looked like?


importent question... morphine would dilute your pupils

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 12:52 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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no, I don't remember, but probably didn't even check that time.

about pupils...or the look of the face in general...I generally associate ecstasy with a more drugged-out look than natural psychedelics...those are just enlarged pupils, more or less, but ecstasy makes people more noticeably drugged looking...so I am wondering, is this inherent in MDMA, or is that due to the addition of speed or other substances?


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Edited by the bizzle (09/10/09 01:01 AM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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different aspects with amps and mdma

mdma would lower the jaw giving you a droopy dumb look.

meth would give you massive bruxism(spelling anyone?) meaning your jaw would be so tight your probably see dimples in your cheeks, if you were hard on it. plus on meth you'd have a helluva lot more activity going on in your face then on mdma...

dextroamphetamine i don't ahve a profile for.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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oops, I should have specified...i mean particularly the eye area...I don't mind having cartoonishly dilated pupils, but I don't like feeling like I looked cracked out, which recently dawned on me might be due to some kind of speed











btw...this is kinda late, but


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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both ahve the tendancy to make your eyes widen but only one has the tendancy also to make your eyes roll up in your had ala mushrooms and almost make you want to fall alseep. and that's mdma...

cracked outtedness is quite possible assured.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Wow my thread took off :lol:

I ended up NOT taking the pill - and I'm glad with my decision, waking up clearheaded the next morning is great.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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oh for fucks sa... *slams thread door*

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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and i'm curious - are dxm pressed pills common at all? or even ket?

I swear i got one of those one time, it wasn't methed out at all but I was getting pretty strong visuals, but not too much of the classic "mdma" euphoria, my body was really tensed up but not uncomfortable and the room was swirling around me, and it lasted a good 8-10 hours.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
oh for fucks sa... *slams thread door*


:curbyourenthusiasm:




LOL


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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lol i know a guy that would put heroin in his molly but he usually put more then just heroin in it a bit of coke too and snort it he is a crazy dready fellow.

he takes amanita and salvia and soaks em in aclochol and drinks it. then smokes DMT


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
no, I don't remember, but probably didn't even check that time.



The reason I asked is because if there was an opiate in it, your pupils would be tiny, even very small amounts of a substance like heroin will constrict the pupils.

pfxtc said:
and i'm curious - are dxm pressed pills common at all? or even ket?



There's actually a chance of you getting DXM or K in presses. There's plenty of K presses going around now, but you would have to take a lot to experience any effect from an oral K dose.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
akira_akuma said:
oh for fucks sa... *slams thread door*


:curbyourenthusiasm:




LOL


:crazybeard:
you ever need a crazy beard, you just let me know yaahhh!

i just love that face... that actor is good, what's his face... seems like the kind of guy who would just "bwaaahahahahaha" sarcasticly with just that very face. i love it.:smirk:

Edited by akira_akuma (09/10/09 01:34 AM)

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thedudenj said:
lol i know a guy that would put heroin in his molly but he usually put more then just heroin in it a bit of coke too and snort it he is a crazy dready fellow.

he takes amanita and salvia and soaks em in aclochol and drinks it. then smokes DMT




had to do it.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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all the sarcasm (intentional or not) is making my ribs hurt.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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seriously tho that guy does mad drugs. i kinda wondered what the Molly/heroin/coke felt like but totally didnt in any way i think there were some painkillers mixed in too


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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well, that dude is in for a ride when he discovers overdoing drugs makes you a little retarded. no offense.

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akira_akuma said:
well, that dude is in for a ride when he discovers overdoing drugs makes you a little retarded. no offense.


it happens.
that's why it's good being poor.
limits the drugs you can buy.:lol:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: elementswrath]
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if your some dope trying to see what drugs you can get in you and how many at one time then yeah, fuck you you should be poor, less stress for everybody.  :jimmorrison:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
if your some dope trying to see what drugs you can get in you and how many at one time then yeah, fuck you you should be poor, less stress for everybody.  :jimmorrison:


you're right.
i think it's one of the reasons some people are poor. they keep spending extra money on drugs rather than invest into something useful.

i am not sure what you mean by less stress for everybody.:shrug:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: elementswrath]
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poor people happen because of mistakes... stress leaves undesirables such as drug dependancy and like you mention, less money. so by my logic here, poorness = stress in general

less poorness = less drug dependancy and wasting resources like energy(food home ect.)money and of course attention

but i digress... poorness is a sham... poor people aren't really poor because they are low on fund ya know what i'm saying D00D? it's like there should be be two different words for it, maaaan... like poor should mean currentcy (another fucked word which to me means standard of lving ie. my debts owed, what i give and take, how i help my community or family and friends ect) and someone shitty with money and drugs and wastes his/her life away and doesn't contribute but to his/her own hedonistic self. and thus contributes nothing to the self should be called someting else.

lol

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Akira, its weird how you describe your experiences with MDMA.  Mine seem alot different.  Im always full of energy.  Elated with happiness, jaw wired shut but talking alot.  Feeling so open with people that I could talk about anything with them.  I find it to not have a "smacky" feel at all.  To me a "smacky" feel is half cocked eyes, nodding out every couple minutes.  Ive NEVER felt like that on MDMA.  Its weird how different your experience is from what me and my friends are like (not discrediting it).  Usually with MDMA peoples eyes seem to be WIDE open and their pupils so big you cant see the color in their eyes.  Alot of times they take on a calm almost childlike voice in higher doses.  Though Im apt for yelling stuff out and talking in strange patterns just for the comedic value.  Ive found that while on MDMA I can make noises and such that I cant reproduce sober.  It also produces real heavy breathing like where you suck in air and then blow it out heavily.  I know what you mean by the eyes rolling back in your head though.  My friends did that when he snorted 200mgs, though he was standing huffing like the big bad wolf for 20 mins and then we were off into the night.  It looked so ate though that Id never want to be that fucked off MDMA.

I also get this weird feeling on MDMA (and 2C-b, slightly with MDA) that I dont get on anything else.  This feeling like something really life changing is gunna happen that night, whether it actually does or not is a different story.  I describe the feeling as "The first night of the rest of my life"  Thats about the best way I can put it into words.  I think it might be a characteristic of phenethylamines.


Also, I did live in a REAL shitty area with alot of REAL shitty people, but im done with that convo.

Edit:As for your last post akira, I think we call those people losers or bums.  Poor people just dont have money.

Edited by mattritt (09/10/09 02:28 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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i agree with you for the most part... i bet it hasnt been as differnet as you think but it's just that we all use drugs differently for differnet (slightly or not) values.

i am wide eyed and dilated too on mdma... but bruxism isn't so much a concern on mdma (well it is buuut...>) but on meth it is just ireverrsible. on mdma the only reason your jaw clentches is because of over compensation... really your jaw isn't being forced up liek it would on meth. but your jaw (in my experience) does seem to be set downwards for some reason.

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