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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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i coulda swore once i got coke pills but then i thought about the fact that it was probably an unusual amount of caffiene probably. but youo know, i guess it's possible to get absoulutely anything about .1% of the time. :laugh:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
So I know if i eat a pill and want to sit down and be overwhelmed with euphoria its an opiate.



I get this feeling on MDMA and MDA all the time everytime (past a certain mg)... so no, it's not an opiate.





Wow, thats one oh the most ignorant of your statements yet.  I said I (as in ME not YOU, ME) never want to sit down EVER and opiate euphoria is totally different than MDMA euphoria.  Ive eaten tons of pure shard.  I KNOW WHAT MDMA IS AND FEELS LIKE!! Get it through your skull.  I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!  There is NO WAY IN HELL you could mistake MDMA for an opiate.  Youd have to be a fucking retard.

Get over it, youre wrong.  Ive eaten them myself, they are fucking out there.  Just cause youve never seen them means nothing.  Come on down to my area.  Ill get you a handful with damn near anything in em.  Ive had ones with cocaine in them too.  Ofcourse youll try to tell me people don't do that but its futile to argue it because they do.  There are tons of fucking idiots in my city that will press ANYTHING into a pill, and just as many idiots thatll eat em and love em cause they think its MDMA (you) when its fucking heroin.



LOL, slow down there turbo. There's no Heroin or other Opiates in your presses, 99.9% of the time. Do you understand probability? Also, I doubt that anybody who believes MDxx contains Heroin is getting any kind of "pure shard," directly from a chemist. Your molly is adulterated too.



My Mollys adulterated??? OK :rolleyes:

Ive crushed fat clear chunks of MDMA up before doing it.  If its a solid crystal then its pure.  Maybe youre getting adulterated molly but im sure as hell not.  I wouldnt buy molly if it was a powder that could have been cut.  Thats plain stupid.  Ive had pure MDMA, Ive had pure MDA, Ive had pure 2C-b straight from the chemist, I no longer do a drug unless I know its pure.  Im sorry if you do, but thats just bad practice.  I care about my body.

But at any rate, youve got some data but not ALL data.  Also in the H pills ive had (when i was young and still ate pills) there wasnt any MDxx, it was all H.  Thats how I know.  Im done arguing, nothing I say will change your ignorance.  You can read your erowid question that was answered YEARS ago, and read the minimal reports on the internet but maybe you should actually go out and see for yourself.  They arent hard to find.  Like I said come down here.  Ill gladly get you a whole bag full of em.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
My Mollys adulterated??? OK :rolleyes:

Ive crushed fat clear chunks of MDMA up before doing it.  If its a solid crystal then its pure.  Maybe youre getting adulterated molly but im sure as hell not.  I wouldnt buy molly if it was a powder that could have been cut.  Thats plain stupid.  Ive had pure MDMA, Ive had pure MDA, Ive had pure 2C-b straight from the chemist, I no longer do a drug unless I know its pure.  Im sorry if you do, but thats just bad practice.  I care about my body.

But at any rate, youve got some data but not ALL data.  Also in the H pills ive had (when i was young and still ate pills) there wasnt any MDxx, it was all H.  Thats how I know.  Im done arguing, nothing I say will change your ignorance.  You can read your erowid question that was answered YEARS ago, and read the minimal reports on the internet but maybe you should actually go out and see for yourself.  They arent hard to find.  Like I said come down here.  Ill gladly get you a whole bag full of em.



The odds of you getting Ecstasy pills containing Heroin or any other opiate are the same as winning the lottery. Actually, you have a better chance of winning the lottery...

Therefore you must understand, nothing you say can be taken seriously because you actually believe that not only have you had Ecstasy that contains opiates or heroin in the past, but that you can consistently get them.

If you're so confident that you have had, and still can get Heroin containing pills. Then send them into Ecstasydata.org or Pillreports to be tested.

Even better yet look through here:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/search.php?searchid=4310484

If you still believe that your Ecstasy contains Heroin after reading through all of that, your ignorance is only second to your arrogance.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Its actually pretty common in St Louis, your astronomical probability theory is way off.  I dont care enough to send a pill in just to prove a point, nor would I touch a press again.  Im not even in St Louis anymore.  What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?  Do you know that they put fucking cow dewormers in pills??? And you wouldnt believe heroin?  Because you havent read it somewhere else?  The gangs in the area dont give a fuck what happens to their customers.  Also the gansters dont test their pill nor have they ever even heard of MDMA, so they dont give a flying fuck whats in it aslong as it gets em fucked up.  Its a pity these days when people cant even believe somebody that tells them about a first hand experience.  I have no reason to lie, and i know what Im talking about.  Im not stupid.  I have done damn near every drug except some obscure RCs.  I also have tons of psychedelics, including pure Molly, in my stash right now.  And yes its pure shards no adulterants I got it from the same guy that I got my LSD from, WoW.  The fam doesnt cut their shit and theyre the only ones I trust to get L from.

Ive also had pharm grade MDMA at a Richie Hawtin show from a chemist buddy, whether you believe me or not.  Im sorry if you cant get stuff like that in your area.  Maybe check in on the local rave scene.  Youd be surprised whats going around in your own backyard.

By the way, there's chemists everywhere. :wink:


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?



Heroin is much more expensive than MDMA.

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Honestly you're the idiot for being so close minded as to believe there's 100% no possible way ever somone would dose h in an x pill. They are out there. But obviously this argument is never ending and I have nothing else to say.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?



Heroin is more expensive than MDMA.

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.



you may be forgetting that at some point a single X pill would go for $25. It's not too hard to imagine that if molly was less available, they would add whatever the fuck they could to make that $25 and still leave you willing to spend another $25 per pill

also, just because the street price of heroin is so high doesnt mean it's more expensive to make. you can get a bottle of 90 hydrocodone pills for what, like 30 bucks, and the street price of each one of those pills is at least $5...that's $450 for $30, when I'm sure it cost even less to make


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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blazenn said:
Honestly you're the idiot for being so close minded as to believe there's 100% no possible way ever somone would dose h in an x pill. They are out there. But obviously this argument is never ending and I have nothing else to say.



Anything is possible, but probability tells us NO. Years of data and research tells us NO. Is it possible, yes, likely no.

Only the uninformed believe there's Heroin in their pills. 

the bizzle said:
BiG_StroOnZ said:
mattritt said:
What is so hard to believe about someone putting heroin in a pill?



Heroin is more expensive than MDMA.

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy. Stop making an idiot out of yourself.



you may be forgetting that at some point a single X pill would go for $25. It's not too hard to imagine that if molly was less available, they would add whatever the fuck they could to make that $25 and still leave you willing to spend another $25 per pill



No they wouldn't because there are plenty of other more cost effective adulterants you could use. Why would they put Heroin in their presses when they could just sell that to the fiends?

The idea of a Heroin "laced or cut" Ecstasy comes from the "smacky" feeling you will get from a true MDMA pill in a reasonable dose. Basically it will sit you on your ass and many people including myself when I use a heavy dose will veg out for long periods of time if allowed to. NO there is no heroin in pills but the result of a good strong dose of MDMA can be similar, sort of.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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i would agree with both sides (:D)

soem people confuse the "smacky" feeling with really good mdma (as in not pressed shit) and some people may have put heroin in presses before, which is fucking stupid for more then one reason. "omg 5mg of heroin my pill im so f0rked now!11"

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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your argument is fail
i could say only the uniformed DONT think there's h pills and have just as much credibility as you.
back when i was in the scene i had personal connections that pressed pills. i can guarantee h pills are out there

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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I think YOU might not be getting MDMA if it sits you down.  Ive NEVER seen anyone sit down or laid out on MDMA.  It always has everyone Ive ever seen do it bouncing off the walls chewing through their jaw with pupils the size of flying saucers.  You wanna know why they cut em with heroin THEYRE FUCKING IDIOTS i told you that already twice.  You've never been to St Louis obviously.  When you go down into the city its full of stupid fucks that dont know a damn thing about drugs.  They just wanna make money.  You say its possible and then right afterwards say i havent had em :facepalm:  Ive had em, theres no denying it.  Stupid people make em and they sell em and people buy em, end of story.  Whats so hard to believe about small circulation pills not showing up on pill reports.  Find me green horse heads on there, not mustangs horse heads.  Find blue teddy bears.  Those are just two pills I can think of that i couldnt find on there.  I never ate em since I couldnt find em on there so I couldnt tell you how they were, but I can tell you ive had opiate presses before no doubt in my mind. 

Why do you think I cant distinguish opiate high from an MDMA high huh??  They are NOTHING alike.  NOTHING!!


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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you can't go by the pill reports. a pink dolphin in NYC is not the same as a pink dolphin in bumfuck mississippi, and a pink dolphin in 2001 is almost definitely not the same as a pink dolphin in 2008


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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^^^EXACTLY pill reports is a great resource but not a definite thing.  Alot of people on there dont even know what theyre talking about too.  In my opinion FUCK presses.  I dont even know why Im still arguing about them, probably because I feel hes insulting my intelligence with every post he makes.  Quite disrespectful.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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lol, i've spent personal trips just finding new spots to laze around on and look around and think... and i only visited like 5 different spots!(on one occasion) (living room, bedroom, backyard swingseat, outdoors near a river and another indirect location) with the exception of the last spot, i found myself laying and enjoying my body buzz and clearity of mind (thoughts were abstracted enough that they weren't distracting) for literally half hour, 50 minutes... it was my first time on mdma. so my experience validates you can get smacky on PURE CRYSTAL MDMA UNCAPPED AND CRASHED AND SWALLOWED. fucking shit feels like it's making corrosive fumes in your mouth. but it was so awesome. then never could find again until pills... then to methbombs later i am done with pills and have a wodnerful moll guy. :laugh:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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so...just out of curiosity, because I want to know more about pure MDMA...does this smacky give you a dreadful withdrawl feeling the next day?


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Well ive never heard that one before but I believe you.  Corrosive fumes??  I always thought it tasted like black liqourice, even Jager but it does have a chemical bite too.  Next time you eat some nice molly think about it.  It really does in my opinion.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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blazenn said:
back when i was in the scene i had personal connections that pressed pills. i can guarantee h pills are out there



I highly doubt it.

Your pills don't contain Heroin, or any other Opiate...


mattritt said:
Ive NEVER seen anyone sit down or laid out on MDMA.  It always has everyone Ive ever seen do it bouncing off the walls chewing through their jaw with pupils the size of flying saucers.



That's because they're meth bombs.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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erm^

and yeah... i'd assume smackyness means lots of sero flooding meaning one took alot and at higher risk for hangover. i never get hangover effects from mdma, though... if i dose to high though my empty mindedness afterwards could be interpreted as depressing. but i like my mind empty anyways so it never bugs me.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
you can't go by the pill reports. a pink dolphin in NYC is not the same as a pink dolphin in bumfuck mississippi, and a pink dolphin in 2001 is almost definitely not the same as a pink dolphin in 2008



exactly. i don't understand why people 100% rely on pillreports. it's like they think every x pill comes from one source and don't realize just how many underground chemists are pushing this thing.



and if you've never been stuck to your seat on mdma you haven't dosed high enough to get such an effect. there's a point when your eyes "roll to the back of your head" so to speak, you chew on your tongue obsessively without realizing it, and the only thought in your mind is "im rolling balls, this is heaven"
i've only experienced it once or twice and never wanted to venture into that high of a dose again, but i have friends that do that shit weekly, or used to anyway



and to stroonz. doubt all you want. i don't give a fuck. i know where i've been and i know what i've seen and what pills i've eaten. i have had x pills with h in them. goodbye

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: blazenn]
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blazenn said:
the bizzle said:
you can't go by the pill reports. a pink dolphin in NYC is not the same as a pink dolphin in bumfuck mississippi, and a pink dolphin in 2001 is almost definitely not the same as a pink dolphin in 2008



exactly. i don't understand why people 100% rely on pillreports. it's like they think every x pill comes from one source and don't realize just how many underground chemists are pushing this thing.

and to stroonz. doubt all you want. i don't give a fuck. i know where i've been and i know what i've seen and what pills i've eaten. i have had x pills with h in them. goodbye



Who relies solely on Pillreports? Get a test kit.


Anyway, you gotta think about it like this. The person synthesizing MDMA  producing between 20-100 lb of MDMA pays like 50 cents for each pill.

WHY IN THE WORLD would a producer want to put Heroin into pills when the pills are fine already? That would just be wasting SO much money, because selling it as Heroin would yield 10x more money.

It's just really not common sense in the eyes of a chemist. ESPECIALLY with heroin...lets go buy a (basically) orally INACTIVE compound that costs MORE than MDMA itself, and put it into our pills? When we could just sell our pills at the same price and also sell the heroin at a much higher price?

First of all, like 80% of oral heroin or morphine is eaten by the stomach before it absorbs. It just doesn't make any sense. It's kind of like putting K into E pills....I really just don't get it. Oral Ketamine is so weak....

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