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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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H bombs are out there, Ive had em before.  It comes around in the bigger cities where shit like that is popular I think.  I wont ever eat a press again unless its tested FOR SURE to only contain MDMA and even then, fuck ill just get molly.


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Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.
:bongload:  :gethigh:  "You need more THC to your brain, faster." - Drr  :gethigh:  :bongload:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
H bombs are out there, Ive had em before.  It comes around in the bigger cities where shit like that is popular I think.  I wont ever eat a press again unless its tested FOR SURE to only contain MDMA and even then, fuck ill just get molly.



...Really?...

H in pills just never made sense to me in so many different ways.


But i hear ya on never doing press pills again. I have had a few good clean pills that gave me a nice roll with a gentle come down and an after glow...But i have also had pills that left me feeling like shit for the following days, Piperazines & Meth bombs :nonono:.



Only thing i touch now is pure molly, knowing the source it came from. 100mg-200mg once every few months....Supplemented with 5-HTP weeks before and after the roll.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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You never know what is in those Mystery Pills; therefore, if I were you, I would not take them. MDMA is fine to take every 8 months or so.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Feanor]
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watch it all


its not really that bad unless you dont take care of your body and are getting bad pills


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: thedudenj]
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^That's an awesome documentary on MDMA. Here's the playlist:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=63CF9CF21A284B8F

There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.

Test your pills: test kit

You never know what kind of adulterants are in "Ecstasy," if you want to take care of your mind and body then you will always test your pills. Consuming adulterated pills can be dangerous, from taking too many meth bombs resulting in an amphetamine psychosis to getting serotonin syndrome from taking a pill that contains MDMA and DXM. Street pills these days are extremely risky much more than they even were a few years ago. Especially now with the recent fluctuation of Piperazine containing pills is another reason that has stopped me from taking any presses or rolls (ecstasy tablet or pill). If it isn't an analog of MDMA (MDAI, bk-MDMA, bk-MBDB [i'd be careful with Mephedrone or Methedrone]) or actual pure MDMA/MDE/MDA (Molly) which is also usually adulterated, but with non-active adulterants then I wouldn't touch it. The Ecstasy game has changed vastly because of the rise in popularity again - everybody is trying to make some money - even some people with an agenda other than making money, releasing highly dangerous Piperazine pills that have been killing people lately.

Edited by BiG_StroOnZ (09/08/09 07:42 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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BiG_StroOnZ said:
There's no Heroin in your Ecstasy... if you had a pill and you thought it had Heroin in it. Then it was most likely a CLEAN pill with a HIGH MDMA content because that's how ACTUAL MDMA should feel.

Test your pills: test kit

You never know what kind of adulterants are in "Ecstasy," if you want to take care of your mind and body then you will always test your pills. Consuming adulterated pills can be dangerous, from taking too many meth bombs resulting in an amphetamine psychosis to getting serotonin syndrome from taking a pill that contains MDMA and DXM. Street pills these days are extremely risky much more than they even were a few years ago, with the recent fluctuation of Piperazine containing pills is what primarily has stopped me from taking any press or roll (ecstasy tablet or pill). If it isn't an analog of MDMA (MDAI, bk-MDMA, bk-MBDB) or actual pure MDMA/MDA (Molly) which is also usually adulterated, but with non-active adulterants then I wouldn't touch it. The Ecstasy game has changed vastly because of the rise in popularity again - everybody is trying to make some money.


Ok  :rolleyes:

I know what pure MDMA feels like dude, ive eaten enough shard.  I also know what opiates feel like.  Dont act like Im stupid and cant tell the difference.  That IS NOT what MDMA feels like.  MDMA is a VERY distinct high.  You can believe what you want, but they are out there.  Ive personally had them and they were anything but clean.  I dont get how you think I would have a clean pill and think it was heroin :confused:

Edited by mattritt (09/08/09 07:45 PM)

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
Ok  :rolleyes: I know what pure MDMA feels like dude, ive eaten enough shard.  I also know what opiates feel like.  Dont act like Im stupid and cant tell the difference.  That IS NOT what MDMA feels like.  MDMA is a VERY distinct high.  You can believe what you want, but they are out there.  Ive personally had them.


There's no Heroin in your pills. It's not orally active for the most part - the enzymes in your stomach will destroy the majority of it. Not to mention, the amount of Heroin needed to get high orally, wouldn't be enough to fit in a pill press...

Heroin in your MDxx is a myth:

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=116

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Ever heard of triple stacks?  Theyre three times the size of a normal pill (there are real ones that arent marketing gimmicks).  And heroin is definitely orally active.


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Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.
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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
Ever heard of triple stacks?  Theyre three times the size of a normal pill (there are real ones that arent marketing gimmicks).  And heroin is definitely orally active.


There hasn't been one ecstasy pill in history that has contained Heroin, you have no idea what you're saying. From all the websites that test pills, from ecstasydata.org to pillreports; nada.

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=116

Triple stacks, double stacks, are also gimmicks. All that means is it contains MORE ADULTERANTS whether ACTIVE or NON-ACTIVE to make the PILLS LARGER so they in turn HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU think THEY ARE GETTING a BETTER DEAL. IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY CONTAIN MORE MDMA.

Please stop while you're ahead.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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Ive read that erowid shit years ago, they havent tested every pill ever.  Neither has pillreports.  Ive had DOZENS of pills that werent on there.  I know that triple stacks most likely dont contain more actives but I was saying that thats how I had it.  In a fat pill.  Believe me or dont.  It really doesnt matter.  Theyre out there whether you believe in em or not.  Ive had em, I didnt like em, I wont eat presses again.  End of story.


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**Metaphysical Crystal, Stones, Gems, and Minerals**
Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.
:bongload:  :gethigh:  "You need more THC to your brain, faster." - Drr  :gethigh:  :bongload:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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LD50 is how they find out if a drug is potentially lethal. I learned this from McKenna. MDMA has a horrendous LD50 profile. The way they figure this out is they take a population of lab rats or college students, and give them the maximum effective dose, when half the population dies, they figure out the LD50. For MDMA, it's ten times the effective dose. Meaning if you drop ten beans, it can kill you. BAD! Mushrooms on the other hand are extremely safe. You can eat 1000 times the effective dose, and you wont die. As a matter of fact, you can eat almost your own body weight and you wont die.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Bruce6000]
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I beg to differ.  Eat a couple ounces at once and tell me you liver isnt fucked, and that your not mentally fucked for the rest of your life.  Honestly, I dont think those figures are too good.  Whos really pushed the boundaries to make claims like that?  Ive always heard those things but it sounds pretty unlikely.


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**Metaphysical Crystal, Stones, Gems, and Minerals**
Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.
:bongload:  :gethigh:  "You need more THC to your brain, faster." - Drr  :gethigh:  :bongload:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
I beg to differ.  Eat a couple ounces at once and tell me you liver isnt fucked, and that your not mentally fucked for the rest of your life.  Honestly, I dont think those figures are too good.  Whos really pushed the boundaries to make claims like that?  Ive always heard those things but it sounds pretty unlikely.


Are you talking about mushrooms or beans?


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: Bruce6000]
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shrooms


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Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.
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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
I beg to differ.  Eat a couple ounces at once and tell me you liver isnt fucked, and that your not mentally fucked for the rest of your life.  Honestly, I dont think those figures are too good.  Whos really pushed the boundaries to make claims like that?  Ive always heard those things but it sounds pretty unlikely.


Erm how do mushrooms fuck with your liver? It's pretty widely agreed upon that psilocybin is fucking harmless, less toxic than aspirin. Sure, taking an ounce would radically change your life, but not because the chemicals are harmful. Because nobody wants to return after an experience like that.

  Now one thing I will mention about excessive mushroom doses; they are dangerous and unpredictable. Wiccan posted an account from several years ago where someone ate 30 grams of mushrooms. They were paralyzed for several days and ended up in a hospital. Nutrients were given to him intravenously because his esophagus was spasming too much to swallow anything. He was fine, just learned a valuable lesson. Mushrooms are a powerful drug!
  Besides, eating an O of mushrooms isn't COMPLETELY uncommon. Many on the shroomery have claimed to have done so, if you choose to believe them or not. It's definitely possible.
Myk


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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That was exactly the case i was thinking of and if i remeber corecctly there were some terrible after effects like a speech immpediment or something.  And it does damage the liver, i dont feel like looking it up but if you do it should be easy enough to find.  Probably on erowid or something.


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**Metaphysical Crystal, Stones, Gems, and Minerals**
Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.
:bongload:  :gethigh:  "You need more THC to your brain, faster." - Drr  :gethigh:  :bongload:

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: mattritt]
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mattritt said:
shrooms


Alright, But LD50 is about lethality, as in "you're dead!" And I was basically stating that MDMA is highly lethal, mushrooms are not.


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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: pfxtc]
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ecstacy is actually better for you than sunflower seeds in high doses, you should eat as much as you can, as often as you can, and you should kill, steal and maim to get pills whenever you can

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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Yeah trust me man, H bombs are DEFINATELY out there. Especially in Dallas.

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Re: How healthy is ecstasy for you? [Re: openmind]
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one of my friends just told me yesterday she'd been on a week runner... she says she feels like shit... take this from a smoker/chewer if you feel like shit, then shitty stuff must be happening. i just stick to herbs...


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