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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: blkjkrabbit]
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I hope when Dick Cheney dies people are consistent and remark on his shooting his friend in the face while hunting drunk. And not allowing the police to question him until the next day after he had slept it off. His companion may well have been killed that day.

I was not a big fan of Ted Kennedy but let's remember that power and privilege are not limited to wealthy families on the left.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zorbman]
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there should be some kind of an constitutional amendment preventing any Kennedy running for public office again.




It was like 2 days ago these same morons were saying they had no problem with nepotism, in reference to Rand Paul, and I told them they'd eat their own words.  I had no idea the hypocrisy would come out so fast though.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zorbman]
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zorbman said:
I hope when Dick Cheney dies people are consistent and remark on his shooting his friend in the face while hunting drunk. And not allowing the police to question him until the next day after he had slept it off. His companion may well have been killed that day.

I was not a big fan of Ted Kennedy but let's remember that power and privilege are not limited to wealthy families on the left.



Ted Kennedy is a well known serial drunk and philanderer.  People with him that night said he drank.  Cheney, on the other hand does not have that reputation and the people with him did not say he drank.  Also, he did not leave the scene and nobody died.  His victim was still alive and able to either press charges or sue civilly.  He did neither.  Cheney derangement syndrome.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
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there should be some kind of an constitutional amendment preventing any Kennedy running for public office again.




It was like 2 days ago these same morons were saying they had no problem with nepotism, in reference to Rand Paul, and I told them they'd eat their own words.  I had no idea the hypocrisy would come out so fast though.



What morons are you referring to?  How does forbidding someone from getting a job relate at all to nepotism?  Are you that ignorant?  How is it even nepotism if the guy wins an election?  Are you ever going to make any sense?  You have no business calling anyone a moron.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Cheney is also a notorious alcoholic- convicted twice for DUI but luckily didn't kill anyone, admitted he had been drinking at the time of the accident (others confirm this) and did indeed leave the scene, refusing to answer questions until he had sobered up the next day. And his victim may very well have died. He was lucky.

"This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it."


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
  Cheney derangement syndrome.



I have to give them some credit for not still crying about George Bush everyday. it took them almost a year but they finally got over him.

:toast:


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
It was like 2 days ago these same morons were saying they had no problem with nepotism, in reference to Rand Paul



who are the "Morons"?

do you have a link?


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zorbman]
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zorbman said:
"This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it."



i live in South Texas! are you saying we're all drunks in South Texas?


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
zorbman said:
"This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it."



i live in South Texas! are you saying we're all drunks in South Texas?



:grin:


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zorbman]
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zorbman said:
Cheney is also a notorious alcoholic- convicted twice for DUI but luckily didn't kill anyone, admitted he had been drinking at the time of the accident (others confirm this) and did indeed leave the scene, refusing to answer questions until he had sobered up the next day. And his victim may very well have died. He was lucky.

"This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it."



DUI in the early sixties mean someone's a drunk?  A beer at lunch makes someone inebriated?
Ted Kennedy remained a heavy drinker until the end and killed someone as a result of his drunkenness.  There is no comparison.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Once an alkie always an alkie.

And the only reason Dick didn't kill someone is dumb luck.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zorbman]
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Birdshot?  What makes you believe Cheney is an alkie?  I guess Obama's a crackhead then.  College DUIs aren't exactly proof of that.  Don't matter, Wittington's not dead and Mary Jo is.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zappaisgod]
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It's an open secret in Washington that Cheney is an alcoholic. Many high profile names you would recognize are also known alcoholics- people who are connected are able to keep these things quiet unless there is an incident.  I have spoken to a couple of friends who have seen Cheney inebriated on a number of occasions.

Buckshot? When you are driving drunk you are putting lives at risk.

He was damn lucky he didn't kill anyone on those two occasions he got caught. Good thing he got a driver later in life.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zorbman]
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Lucky?  I thought you were talking about Wittingham.  What percentage of drunk driving incidents do you suppose end up in somebody dieing?  Like one ten thousandth of 1%?  But Teddy won that lottery then abandoned her to struggle and drown without reporting it.

Feel free to post anything you got about Cheney's "well known" alcoholism.

More fun facts about Ted Kennedy, that feminist lion.
http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_5585
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It is after midnight and Kennedy and [Senator Chris] Dodd  are just finishing up a long dinner in a private room on the first floor of the restaurant’s annex. They are drunk. Their dates, two very young blondes, leave the table to go to the bathroom. (The dates are drunk too. “They’d always get their girls very, very drunk,” says a former Brasserie waitress.) Betty Loh, who served the foursome, also leaves the room. Raymond Campet, the co-owner of La Brasserie, tells Gaviglio the senators want to see her.

As Gaviglio enters the room, the six-foot-two, 225-plus-pound Kennedy grabs the five-foot-three, 103-pound waitress and throws her on the table. She lands on her back, scattering crystal, plates and cutlery and the lit candles. Several glasses and a crystal candlestick are broken. Kennedy then picks her up from the table and throws her on Dodd, who is sprawled in a chair. With Gaviglio on Dodd’s lap, Kennedy jumps on top and begins rubbing his genital area against hers, supporting his weight on the arms of the chair. As he is doing this, Loh enters the room. She and Gaviglio both scream, drawing one or two dishwashers. Startled, Kennedy leaps up. He laughs. Bruised, shaken and angry over what she considered a sexual assault, Gaviglio runs from the room. Kennedy, Dodd and their dates leave shortly thereafter, following a friendly argument between the senators over the check.

Eyewitness Betty Loh told me that Kennedy had “three or four” cocktails in his first half hour at the restaurant and wine with dinner. When she walked into the room after Gaviglio had gone in, she says, “what I saw was Senator Kennedy on top of Carla, who was on top of Senator Dodd’s lap, and the tablecloth was sort of slid off the table ‘cause the table was knocked over—not completely, but just on Senator Dodd’s lap a little bit, and of course the glasses and the candlesticks were totally spilled and everything. And right when I walked in, Senator Kelly jumped off…and he leaped up, composed himself and got up. And Carla jumped up and ran out of the room.”




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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
More fun facts about Ted Kennedy, that feminist lion.
http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_5585
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It is after midnight and Kennedy and [Senator Chris] Dodd  are just finishing up a long dinner in a private room on the first floor of the restaurant?s annex. They are drunk. Their dates, two very young blondes, leave the table to go to the bathroom. (The dates are drunk too. ?They?d always get their girls very, very drunk,? says a former Brasserie waitress.) Betty Loh, who served the foursome, also leaves the room. Raymond Campet, the co-owner of La Brasserie, tells Gaviglio the senators want to see her.

  Add Signature  Preview Reply  D4D0C8As Gaviglio enters the room, the six-foot-two, 225-plus-pound Kennedy grabs the five-foot-three, 103-pound waitress and throws her on the table. She lands on her back, scattering crystal, plates and cutlery and the lit candles. Several glasses and a crystal candlestick are broken. Kennedy then picks her up from the table and throws her on Dodd, who is sprawled in a chair. With Gaviglio on Dodd?s lap, Kennedy jumps on top and begins rubbing his genital area against hers, supporting his weight on the arms of the chair. As he is doing this, Loh enters the room. She and Gaviglio both scream, drawing one or two dishwashers. Startled, Kennedy leaps up. He laughs. Bruised, shaken and angry over what she considered a sexual assault, Gaviglio runs from the room. Kennedy, Dodd and their dates leave shortly thereafter, following a friendly argument between the senators over the check.

Eyewitness Betty Loh told me that Kennedy had ?three or four? cocktails in his first half hour at the restaurant and wine with dinner. When she walked into the room after Gaviglio had gone in, she says, ?what I saw was Senator Kennedy on top of Carla, who was on top of Senator Dodd?s lap, and the tablecloth was sort of slid off the table ?cause the table was knocked over?not completely, but just on Senator Dodd?s lap a little bit, and of course the glasses and the candlesticks were totally spilled and everything. And right when I walked in, Senator Kelly jumped off?and he leaped up, composed himself and got up. And Carla jumped up and ran out of the room.?





Maybe Kennedy the "Cocksucking feminist lion" assumed women like to be treated that way?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: zorbman]
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zorbman said:
It's an open secret in Washington that Cheney is an alcoholic. .  I have spoken to a couple of friends who have seen Cheney inebriated on a number of occasions.





who are the "friends"?

Redstorm? Annapurna1?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: lonestar2004]
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As I've mentioned before my family has been involved with national politics (Republicans) for decades. Politically-speaking that makes me the black sheep of the family but I always enjoy meeting true statesmen and there are still a few of those remaining in both parties.

So I grew up hearing all the stories about who's getting loaded, who's banging who, etc. Many people would be surprised that most politicians in Washington lead very lonely lives. Especially now that partisanship has become a disease and there are fewer intra-party events nowadays.

It is the fashion now to demonize the other party while denying one's own faults. People like this are the political equivalent of used car salesman. You can always count on them to dramatize their strengths and deny their weaknesses. It's a sad, old game and you would think people would grow up and get tired of themselves yet it continues.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
:yesnod: the good news is that China won't even want control of this country when Obama's finished with it.



With all due respect to your considerable talents for panic the very structure of the American governmental system makes it unlikely Obama could destroy the country during his term.  He has a little more than a year left of his Democratic majority before the mid-term elections.  If things are as bad as you say they are, and assuming the American people aren't complete idiots, the Republicans will pick up seats.  I don't see how they don't.  There was a perfect storm of factors leading to the results of the last vote.

So really, he has a year left to ruin the fucking place, if that's what you think he's doing, before the elections.  And then you can clamp down on the spending.  If you think the Republicans will.  Which I doubt.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: Madtowntripper]
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The Dems will hold the majority, even if they lose several seats.  The odds are just too much for the GOP to take that many.


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Re: ted kennedy is dead... [Re: Ferris]
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I don't think so.

I think the shift will be pretty large.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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