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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Rose]
    #2127807 - 11/21/03 06:03 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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It was doctored by Life magazine when it appeared on the cover in 1963. The doctoring lead to endless conspiracy theories but it was only done to clean the picture up.




Actually, there is more to these photographs than their appearance in Life Magazine in 1964. Here is a quick link: http://www.pimall.com/nais/news/backyard.html Note: the author's photoshop presentation is quite amateurish; there are more accurate demonstrations of the shadows and the lining up of the body (quickest link I could find - I will post my book references, however). What he wrote, however, is pretty much right on with others' research, including the HSCA.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Rose]
    #2127820 - 11/21/03 06:15 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Many people have proven it can be done. Easy? No. Possible? Yes.

People have done what Oswald supposedly did many times since then, with a MC.




Quite correct. But no one of average shooting ability (Oswald was, at best, an average shot) has reproduced the same results with the exact type of ammunition (which has been demonstrated to be highly cheap and unreliable - during the HSCA tests, they rarely fired at all) and the same defective scope at a moving target. Most "reproductions" that have been filmed show the work of highly-skilled marksmen with extensive sniper training shooting MC rifles (or modern replicas) but with modern-adapted ammo. Not entirely the honest and accurate, in my opinion.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Rose]
    #2127833 - 11/21/03 06:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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More likely there was a lone gunman than an alien conspiracy.




I highly doubt aliens were involved, despite Shroomism's insistence in the Pub :rocket: I personally think Oswald was heavily involved in the assassination plot, but he was the one who was unknowingly groomed to take the fall given his history as a faux-Marxist for Naval Intelligence.   


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Xochitl]
    #2128069 - 11/21/03 08:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

:smile:


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Rose]
    #2128268 - 11/21/03 09:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, obviously Oswald was the "designated patsy" and Jack Ruby was the "problem solver" (the problem being that Oswald might squeal)


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2128382 - 11/21/03 11:12 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You better stop talking if you know what's good for you Dr. J.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Learyfan]
    #2128388 - 11/21/03 11:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

The CIA killed Kennedy.John and Robert.Why did they leave Teddy?He's on their side.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Learyfan]
    #2129048 - 11/22/03 01:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Xochitl]
    #2129105 - 11/22/03 02:23 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

OMFG.

There's someone with an umbrella and, someone waving!

Now I believe.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Rose]
    #2129323 - 11/22/03 05:41 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

hehe  :tongue2: I knew that would convince you.

You have to admit though, the behavior of the umbrella man and the fist man are quite odd. Can you explain the photographs of them sitting very close together before the motorcade but then standing up and opening and pumping an umbrella up and down right when Kennedy passes by and closing the umbrella after the shots have been fired? After Kennedy's head has been blown off, they (who are they closest spectators to the bloody motorcade) both calmly sit back down close together on the curb unlike nearly everyone else who has either run away screaming or hit the ground. Eventually, they are seen in photographs of walking away in separate directions.

If the umbrella was open the entire time, then it would not be a big deal as most likely it would have been some albino who didnt want any sun. But why would it only be open for a few seconds on a bright sunny day? Why would anyone be so bothered to open an umbrella exactly when the president (someone whom these individuals had obviously been waiting to see) passes by?

I do not think the umbrella man is evidence of conspiracy at all, but rather just one more odd circumstantial event that paints the picture of some sort of covert action taking place. The seconds-long open umbrella seems like a signal - for whom or what, I have no idea. I have considered the idea that the umbrella man was a heckler, but why would he heckle the president with an umbrella of all things?


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Xochitl]
    #2129333 - 11/22/03 05:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Seems a likely explanation that they were part of the security team, but I assume the gubbament has never made any claims supporting that theory.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2129346 - 11/22/03 06:03 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps. But if they were federal security, why would this security be so passive when the official that they are supposed to defend with their lives gets his head blown off?



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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Xochitl]
    #2129387 - 11/22/03 06:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Security, or he opened the umbrella as a way to wave to the president.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: Xochitl]
    #2129391 - 11/22/03 07:00 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

is the umbrella guy on the film? i don't see him anywhere.


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Re: Kennedy propaganda show [Re: ]
    #2129394 - 11/22/03 07:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

THere's some stuff on there now about it on the history channel.


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    #2129397 - 11/22/03 07:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i see it now... just in the corner of one frame though.. hard to spot


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