chris92346 said:

Well lets just say it is all in your head... does that make the experience any less valid?  I don't think so.

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Innoculus said:

Then stop thinking you know everything.

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Noteworthy said:

Everyone figures out that everything is connected because it IS. its not some weird secret. It is just a truth that has NO utility at all. you cant change your behavior at all when you find out that everything is connected, because even if everything is connected, there are still different 'parts' on this giant nebula of existance, and if you ignore the uniqueness of the different parts (the 'things') then you will likely fail at surviving

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Noteworthy said:

What sort of connection are you talking about?

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Can you share some of the things youve done with your knowledge?

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I don't know, I practice it everyday, just being aware that everything I do is connected to everything else.

For a practical application/example, I once did an experiment using the scientific method to determine if I could help my squash grow healthier. 

I had three groups, "good", "bad" and the control.  Each all got the same sun/water/food, but each day I would take the "good" group into a separate room and give it all sorts of good vibes, telling them how beautiful they were, how much I loved them, etc.; I would then take the "bad" group and spew negative energy, cursing it, saying I hated them, etc... and of course the control group received no special attention.

It was clear within 2-3 weeks which group was which, without the labels.  The control group looked like any group of squash, overall healthy, some drooping and wilting, but not much.  The "good" group was absolutely bursting with life.  All were at least an inch or two higher than the control group and were a bright, almost florescent green, like new budding plants in spring.  The "bad" group was pathetic looking.  All were at least an inch shorter than the control group and had a dark, green old-looking pigment.  Most were wilting, all were drooping... just sad.  I actually remember feeling guilty for doing that to them.

Btw, I did that experiment in the 8th grade for science fair; way before I had any clue what shrooms were.  But it's an example of using the "everything is connected" mentality to affect the world around you.  It was a clear experience of my consciousness connecting with inanimate life and affecting its growth patterns... which is the kind of stuff you think about/ponder/realize while beshroomed.... if you're me anyway. 

Hope that helps clear up what I was talking about earlier.  If not, I'd be more than happy to ramble onwards

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Mnboardin said:

OutThisLife said:

2Cents said:

all of life is connected my friend

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Yes I've seen that. But that fucks up the mystery to life.

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It may "fuck up" a "mystery to life," but it does not shed light upon the mystery of life.

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Duh?

If everything is connected and going towards the same goal [subconsciously] then we have only an illusion of control.

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pfxtc said:

nobody's ever been able to reveal the "universal truths"



the only "universal truths" i think, is when you fully become to understand yourself, because you and everything else are one, and if you finally understand yourself - you understand everything, and that's when you get a "universal truth", and when you get there, psychedelics are like childs play compared to deep meditation. i like the book "be here now" when he gives his teacher the hits of LSD and he takes them and stays completely sober, because his meditation practices are MUCH more intense then these mere chemical instigators, which is all psychedelics really are, they instigate the mind to perceive things differently, nothing more.

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Poptart said:

pfxtc said:

nobody's ever been able to reveal the "universal truths"



the only "universal truths" i think, is when you fully become to understand yourself, because you and everything else are one, and if you finally understand yourself - you understand everything, and that's when you get a "universal truth", and when you get there, psychedelics are like childs play compared to deep meditation. i like the book "be here now" when he gives his teacher the hits of LSD and he takes them and stays completely sober, because his meditation practices are MUCH more intense then these mere chemical instigators, which is all psychedelics really are, they instigate the mind to perceive things differently, nothing more.

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Ya ya ya. we have all heard the stories about the guru's who take psychedelics and feel nothing because they are already their from meditation. I think that's a bunch of bull shit. Sure meditation is wonderful and all and you can definatly reach higher states of conciousness but it's not the same thing as a full blown trip.

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