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Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor?
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Well, it's come that time...it looks like my gf is pregnant! We only actually started trying this past cycle, too!

I started to wonder, as I get ready to book us a doctors appointment, how much do we tell our doctor? I'm talking about drug use, here. My gf has quit everything except a little pot (she needs it to stay sane), but do we discuss this with our doc?

I have heard that, in some places, they will take your baby away if there is any confirmed drug use during the pregnancy. If they find anything in a blood test, for example, they'll come and whisk your baby away at birth!

I want to be honest with my doctor - I have been up to now, with my own drug use, so shouldn't I tell her everything? Let her know that we do understand the risks and are taking steps to minimize them (getting a vape)?

Or will they take my child away from me?

I live in Ontario, Canada, by the way.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Taking drugs or smoking while pregnant is bad news.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Another incredibly helpful post :rolleyes:


Not that I usually find problems with your posts, hue, it's just that one.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Wow...you don't see that you are damaging your child's health? If she stops now don't worry about telling the doctor anything. If your girlfriend knowingly makes decisions that could potentially damage your child's health then she doesn't need to be a mother. Everything's a drug? That is bullshit. Not food.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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There are quite a few studies on the subject, and to my knowledge none of them has come up with anything conclusive either way.


That's a pretty big gamble when it comes to how your kid could be. :shrug:


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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There is zero evidence that marijuana is "harmful" if used correctly during pregnancy.

Prove me wrong.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I'm glad you did your research, but there is also plenty of research indicating the potential for adverse effects of MJ use during pregnancy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19607965?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19568685?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18426504?ordinalpos=54&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

You are definitely taking an irresponsible gamble. 

As toy our specific question, any physician that learns off illegal drug use or other behaviors that may cause harm to a child will probably try and intervene.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Is it completely unreasonable for her to quit smoking for the duration of the pregnancy?  I think you should tell the doctor the truth.  He might need that information later on down the road.

I don't know how I feel about smoking during pregnancy, there are a lot of strong ideas about it.  Here a thread from babycenter.com about smoking pot during pregnancy... you may or may not find it helpful.

www.babycenter.com


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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It seems as if you don't understand what everyone else is saying, so allow me to restate it.

Doing drugs while pregnant is a bad idea.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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That's a pretty big gamble when it comes to how your kid could be.

I have about 8000 years and quite a few personal friends as anecdotal evidence that it does nothing. There is one actual study that I know of which says that kids born to cannabis using mothers have higher intelligence.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said:
I have about 8000 years and quite a few personal friends as anecdotal evidence that it does nothing. There is one actual study that I know of which says that kids born to cannabis using mothers have higher intelligence.


Awesome.  And I just posted three indicating the potential for adverse effects.  In sum your research means not listening to sources you are against.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said:
There is zero evidence that marijuana is "harmful" if used correctly during pregnancy.

Prove me wrong.


I didn't read any research on this matter, but if THC is able to affect an adult's brain in the way it does, I can only imagine that while the brain is forming and growing, it will affect it even more. Do you agree with me up to this point, or are you thinking that THC doesn't affect the fetal brain? If you do agree that it does, then the only thing that's left to figure out is how this brain is being affected, which, from your own words, is still unknown. Unknown is different than safe.
Are you willing to take this risk and simply hope your kid will be ok? To each his own, I personally know I wouldn't do this.


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
Anonymous said:
I have about 8000 years and quite a few personal friends as anecdotal evidence that it does nothing. There is one actual study that I know of which says that kids born to cannabis using mothers have higher intelligence.


Awesome.  And I just posted three indicating the potential for adverse effects.  In sum your research means not listening to sources you are against.


Yes, but this would mean that he might actually have to change his mind, which is unacceptable. :lol:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said:
That's a pretty big gamble when it comes to how your kid could be.

I have about 8000 years and quite a few personal friends as anecdotal evidence that it does nothing.


Anecdotal evidence? :lol:
8ooo years? :rofl:

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There is one actual study that I know of which says that kids born to cannabis using mothers have higher intelligence.


Post it.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: badchad]
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I note that two of the studies you posted make no mention of "potential for adverse effects". One of them does mention adverse effects, but only in stating that more evidence is needed to determine what (if any) those adverse effects are.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: CherryBom]
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Congratulations, Anonymous #1. :stork:

CherryBom said:
Is it completely unreasonable for her to quit smoking for the duration of the pregnancy? 


This would be my question. I don't really believe the hysteria about pot and pregnancy, but if there was ever a time to take a break, this is it.

I do think there's a disproportionate amount of moralizing when it comes to prenatal pot compared to, say, raising your kids to eat junk food. I don't think the moral attacks are helpful here, guilt doesn't change minds very well, IMO.

I have an friend who smoked pot while pregnant. Her daughter is six now, a healthy and brilliant child. But she's often a little too excitable, and has real trouble focusing in class.

This may just be her personality, but maybe it's something else. My friend still feels guilty, and wonders if she has made her daughter's life harder than it has to be. She'll never know for sure.


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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

:heartpump:

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: badchad]
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Awesome.  And I just posted three indicating the potential for adverse effects.  In sum your research means not listening to sources you are against.

*sigh*

OK. If it helps you to think that...do so :rolleyes:


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Interesting facts:

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First of all, smoking anything during pregnancy deprives the fetus of oxygen. Just as smoking tobacco is discouraged in pregnant women, so is smoking marijuana. Smoking any type of substance interferes with the fetus's blood supply. This can mean the fetus doesn't get enough oxygen, and s/he may be born smaller in both weight and length. Smaller babies have a higher risk of other problems after birth, such as infections, severe jaundice, difficulty feeding, breathing problems, low blood sugar, difficulty regulating temperature, bleeding into the brain, and problems with vision.


:shrug:


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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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Thanks WC! I have thought about that...but personally I tend to think that those types of things (psychological) are mostly caused by upbringing and environment more than anything.

I also have friends who smoked pot (actually smoked...no vapes) during their pregnancies and all their kids seem to be fine.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Pregnant girlfriend - how much do we tell our doctor? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I don't have any kids myself, but the 90% of my peer group who do tell me that as soon as you discover you're pregnant, your needs cease to matter.  You are now completely responsible for this itty bitty, helpless, human being in a giant world full of good and bad.

Why not give it a strong, healthy foundation to start off on?  It's just pot.  It will still be there in 9 months...


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