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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: Lakefingers]
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There are many things in life that I am unsure about but there are a few things in life that I am sure about.

I know without a doubt that I am in love with my wife.

I know without a doubt that open and honest communication with my wife makes life easier.

I know without a doubt that befriending someone who I can not trust is a mistake.

I know without a doubt that 1+1=2

I know without a doubt that if I do not somehow provide food for myself I will die. Same goes for water.

I know without a doubt that living a good honest life allows me to be confident about who I am.

I know without a doubt that when I was younger and lacked integrity my mind was not as clear or confident as it is now.

I know without a doubt that some people who read that I consider myself a confident person figure that means that I think I know everything even though I'm smarter than that.

I know without a doubt that I do not have the capacity to know everything and that many things in life are better left a mystery.

I know without a doubt that my wife loves me.

I know without a doubt that meditation is good for us.

I know without a doubt that psychedelic drugs can be used with great benefit.

There is probably more but you get the idea.

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: zen buddy]
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zen buddy said:
There are many things in life that I am unsure about but there are a few things in life that I am sure about.

I know without a doubt that I am in love with my wife.

I know without a doubt that open and honest communication with my wife makes life easier.

I know without a doubt that befriending someone who I can not trust is a mistake.

I know without a doubt that 1+1=2

I know without a doubt that if I do not somehow provide food for myself I will die. Same goes for water.

I know without a doubt that living a good honest life allows me to be confident about who I am.

I know without a doubt that when I was younger and lacked integrity my mind was not as clear or confident as it is now.

I know without a doubt that some people who read that I consider myself a confident person figure that means that I think I know everything even though I'm smarter than that.

I know without a doubt that I do not have the capacity to know everything and that many things in life are better left a mystery.

I know without a doubt that my wife loves me.

I know without a doubt that meditation is good for us.

I know without a doubt that psychedelic drugs can be used with great benefit.

There is probably more but you get the idea.


are you serious? this just sounds like things that you are highly convicted towards. 1+1 = 2 because thats what 2 is. it is '1+1'. a priori.

as for knowing things like meditation is good for you or that your wife loves you.. look at what you are saying. you are just claiming things. what is meditation? what is love? you cant pinpoint them and so there will always be the doubt that you perhaps are making internal mistakes of judgement. If you simply have no doubt that you could be wrong.. well thats just called being cocky/arrogant. which is fine. but it doesnt bring certainty of knowledge in a sense that other people could accept


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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: zen buddy]
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zen buddy said:
There are many things in life that I am unsure about but there are a few things in life that I am sure about.

I know without a doubt that I am in love with my wife.

I know without a doubt that open and honest communication with my wife makes life easier.

I know without a doubt that befriending someone who I can not trust is a mistake.

I know without a doubt that 1+1=2

I know without a doubt that if I do not somehow provide food for myself I will die. Same goes for water.

I know without a doubt that living a good honest life allows me to be confident about who I am.

I know without a doubt that when I was younger and lacked integrity my mind was not as clear or confident as it is now.

I know without a doubt that some people who read that I consider myself a confident person figure that means that I think I know everything even though I'm smarter than that.

I know without a doubt that I do not have the capacity to know everything and that many things in life are better left a mystery.

I know without a doubt that my wife loves me.

I know without a doubt that meditation is good for us.

I know without a doubt that psychedelic drugs can be used with great benefit.

There is probably more but you get the idea.


You might believe without a doubt that these are true, but I'm afraid you don't know them.


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: deCypher]
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Don't be afraid! :shiftyeyes:


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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
You might believe without a doubt that these are true, but I'm afraid you don't know them.


This is quite a revealing statement.

I had a feeling it had something to do with fear.

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: zen buddy]
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:facepalm:


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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: zen buddy]
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zen buddy said:
deCypher said:
You might believe without a doubt that these are true, but I'm afraid you don't know them.


This is quite a revealing statement.

I had a feeling it had something to do with fear.


:rimshot:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation *DELETED* [Re: deCypher]
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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: Lakefingers]
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No he's not. :shake:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation *DELETED* [Re: Poid]
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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: Lakefingers]
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deCypher is hardcore, he isn't afraid of anything. :cool2:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation *DELETED* [Re: Poid]
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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: Lakefingers]
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Then why did you say that I'm in denial if earlier I also said that he's not afraid? :confused:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: Poid]
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An attempt at mocking the truth? :shrug:

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: zen buddy]
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So many assumptions and so little skepticism in this thread...


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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: deCypher]
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We only can know things 'relatively', not 'absolutely'.
Grasping for the 'absolute' is like grasping into thin air. We simply have no point of reference, in other words, we have to put the point of reference in relative position to ourselves, making it relative and absolute in its reference in the same time.
Our 'relative' condition in existence makes some (relative) 'absolutes' a necessity.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

Edited by BlueCoyote (07/03/09 03:10 PM)

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
So many assumptions and so little skepticism in this thread...


What assumptions?

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: zen buddy]
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The previous ten posts or so before that one.


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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
The previous ten posts or so before that one.


Someone said that they were afraid and I naturally concluded that this person was afraid.:shrug:

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Re: Extreme Skepticism - one interpretation [Re: zen buddy]
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Don't believe everything you read.  :tongue2:


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