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Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane?
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I've been fairly seriously attempting meditation for about a week, since I read Be Here Now. It's going well, and I've been rereading portions of the book every day or every other day to keep in the right mindset.

I've become curious about ... well, just exactly what this whole "astral plane" thing is about.
I trust that it's a very real realm of consciousness (by which I mean that I'm certain it can be experienced, regardless of whether or not it's "science-real"), but I don't know how to ... get there?
Is that even the right way to ask the question?

What I have done successfully is sort of meditate myself to sleep, and I've achieved very active dream states with what I trust to be more-meaningful-than-average dream experiences. For example a few days ago I did this and had a dream in which I was admiring a bee and it became a wasp (or perhaps I realized it had been a wasp all along, it doesn't matter), and my attitude towards the creature shifted dramatically ... it felt as if the dream's purpose was to demonstrate something that I didn't previously acknowledge about myself.

Anyway, my curiosity is aroused, and I was hoping the Shroomery would be a good place to find help for a novice psychonaut like myself.

Any methods I should look into?
Any useful mental states (which can be meaningfully described in text) that I might work towards?


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Weedmaster P knows the truth.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: laserpig]
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Death works like magic for me. If you decide you are ready to die, nothing will get you out of your meditation or concentration.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: Diaboleros]
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Ive as well have ben doing meditation as I lye in bed. i get this weird ass vibrations coming over my body, but its like when body notices this it pulls back. so I think ive got alot of work to do before I have a OBE

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: dieselkush]
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dieselkush said:
Ive as well have ben doing meditation as I lye in bed. i get this weird ass vibrations coming over my body, but its like when body notices this it pulls back. so I think ive got alot of work to do before I have a OBE


The intense vibrations stage is where your body double is about to project. There are numerous techniques you can use in this stage to have a successful projection. I simple one entails visualizing yourself looking down at your body.

A recommended book is Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce. Another great resource is these forums http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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awsome thank you kind sir.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: dieselkush]
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all roads lead to rome

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: Mastamike1118]
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To me it seems the astral plane is omnipresent and constantly influencing our lives.  That's only a guess or intuition based on personal insight, though.  I have heard that psychedelics and lucid dreaming are ways of reaching the astral directly.  Once after an understated low-dose mushroom trip I had an amazing dream in which I ascended through astral realms.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
dieselkush said:
Ive as well have ben doing meditation as I lye in bed. i get this weird ass vibrations coming over my body, but its like when body notices this it pulls back. so I think ive got alot of work to do before I have a OBE


The intense vibrations stage is where your body double is about to project. There are numerous techniques you can use in this stage to have a successful projection. I simple one entails visualizing yourself looking down at your body.

A recommended book is Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce. Another great resource is these forums http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php.



Describe the "Vibration Stage"

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: TeamAmerica]
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Oh you'll know it when your in it. Its the feeling of extremely intense vibrations moving through your entire body accompanied with a static and crackling noise in your ears.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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try not to 'meditate yourself to sleep' instead, try to stay aware as you're falling asleep.. the point right between waking and sleeping is where your window of opportunity is, it's tricky, but if you practice everytime you plan on sleeping it'll happen.. trust me... afternoon naps seem to be the easiest time to attempt this. Also try it sitting in a chair instead of laying down.. and if you are lying down try to stay on your back.

Can you move any of your body during the vibrational stage?.. If you are at the point where your body is completley paralyzed other than your eyes and your body feels like its vibrating like fucking crazy, you are extremely close to leaving our body.. I'm not sure how to describe how I personaly get out, I just kind of 'do it'


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Nothing is true, everything is permissible.

Our laws make law impossible; our liberties destroy all freedom; our property is organized robbery; our morality an impudent hypocrisy; our wisdom is administered by inexperienced or mal-experienced dupes; our power wielded by cowards and weaklings; and our honour false in all its points. I am an enemy of the existing order for good reasons.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
Oh you'll know it when your in it. Its the feeling of extremely intense vibrations moving through your entire body accompanied with a static and crackling noise in your ears.


The closest experience Ive had to that would be meditating until I felt a rush like I was rising extremely fast. As I rose faster small vibrations ran up and down my body, while all of this is happening, fluctuating geometrical patterns are weaving in the blackness on the back of my eyelids. Until the rising just stops and I open my eyes...

Also sometimes when I fall asleep meditating and I wake up a little lucid, I notice my walls are bending at an extreme angle. Made me think about "Dreams in the Witch-House" by H.P. Lovecraft, when the weird angles of the walls opened up different dimensions.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: TeamAmerica]
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i will be able to remember my dreams i will be able to remember my dreams i will be able to remember my dreams

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: TeamAmerica]
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its almost like when your foot falls asleep. you start to feel it through your arms and through your body. when I got to this point it was like when I catch my foot when its asleep, instincivly I pulled away from this feeling. its realy a crazy feeling. it literaly feels like your about to leave your body.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: dieselkush]
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Our being is constantly operating on multiple 'channels' in multiple 'bodies'.

It's just a matter of tuning the lower systems (physical, emotional, mental, social-sexual), to become conscious of the higher continuous circuits.

It's hard to explain but when I become lucid it's like 'aligning' my nested energetic bodies.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: dieselkush]
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dieselkush said:
its almost like when your foot falls asleep. you start to feel it through your arms and through your body. when I got to this point it was like when I catch my foot when its asleep, instincivly I pulled away from this feeling. its realy a crazy feeling. it literaly feels like your about to leave your body.


Yea Ive gotten to that point by listening to music and just laying down. I couldn't feel my body, it felt like I was hovering over my body. But Ive never done it any farther.

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: TeamAmerica]
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To the OP:

I would suggest you try meditating in general before you go this far. I have at times gone much further than my mind was ready for and the results were not too enjoyable. Build a solid foundation before you build your castle :tongue:

Start to record your dreams and work on lucidity in dreams. I have begun to record dreams and its amazing how much clearer they become.


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With Allure I Look to the Sky With Awakened Eyes

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Re: Hello, do you know which way it is to the astral plane? [Re: Rocker232]
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Rocker232 said:
To the OP:

I would suggest you try meditating in general before you go this far. I have at times gone much further than my mind was ready for and the results were not too enjoyable. Build a solid foundation before you build your castle :tongue:

Start to record your dreams and work on lucidity in dreams. I have begun to record dreams and its amazing how much clearer they become.


Thanks, sounds like good advice.


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Weedmaster P knows the truth.

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