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Offlinethe_phoenix
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Out-of-body travel IRL (not astral)
    #6165776 - 10/13/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I just travelled out-of-body IRL... I realize I had always been doing it wrong when I tried! I'm not talking about astral travel... in that case I don't see real pictures, just blue dots that I understand as whatever entities (I choose not to get tangled up in visuality there, I think it's more real this way). What I mean is that I was in bed on my side (position matters less than I thought), eyes closed, and I imagined in my mind's eye that I was getting up from my position in bed. I felt one of my subtle bodies get up, so I was *feeling* that I was standing up in bed, but if I opened my eyes, I would see I was still down on my side. I wondered how I could visualize in my mind's eye so intensely that I would see from the perspective of the subtle body I disassociated from my physical body with. The key I realized is that I must open my eyes just a tiny tiny bit, so that it was still totally blurry, and try to bring my mind's eye down far enough to overlap this small opening. Then I was standing in my room, but if I opened my eyes completely, in an instant I was back in the position in my bed I knew I was in. I tried again and managed to go out my window and fly over my apartment a bit, controlling the direction of my subtle body's movement well enough (it takes some getting used to, like what you see is where you go towards). The picture was as real as when my eyes are normally open, except I was squinting my eyes, so the picture was very small. What eventually lead me to having to stop was I would be closing my eyes to refocus (still connected to my subtle body) but then I couldn't open them correctly... sometimes it's tough just to open them a bit, because if you open them too much then pop you're back in bed. That's just a silly thing I need to practice. I just never realized it was a matter of squinting your eyes, so I thought I'd share this in case any of you were having the same problem.

I also take 12-hour time-release DXM (5oz Delsym) almost every day, but not for recreational purposes whatsoever, as I believe DXM is unhealthy if done recreationally. I wasn't on DXM when I did this this morning, but through my DXM work I was in touch with my subtle bodies and stuff, that is part of the point of my work.

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Re: Out-of-body travel IRL (not astral) [Re: the_phoenix]
    #6166691 - 10/13/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

OMFG LOL! (urk!)

Read my post in astral projection thread for alarming/uncanny/coincidental similarities.

Also, that is very interesting. I have not been so explicitly aware of 'subtle bodies' but i have certainly had moments that seem resonant with what you have described.

I have been more focussed on seeing my surroundings with 'my' 'third eye' (taught memory or momentary burn-through? etc) and also the transmutation of thought into vision (this is not a regular project, again a recollection of a recent seredipity of moment and inspection/intrepidation into, with, as, the mind).

Interesting and captain nut squad also. Generally my emotions and (unfortunate...) predilection for striking up the mind-game brass band (with their rusty instruments, mostly) will be a side order to the earnestness of exploration.


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Re: Out-of-body travel IRL (not astral) [Re: Jackenobi]
    #6169053 - 10/14/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I have been doing this since I was about 7 and I am 35 now. I dont have time now but I can post some methods I use to help you if you want.
I know exactly what you are talking about also and will post more later. I also use these methods with Salvia and will be trying with ahyuasca also. I just saw a Terrence Mckenna movie where he talked about mixing meditation with psycedelics.


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