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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: xFrockx]
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The map is not the territory.

You can call it Pineapples and Pigskins;

people will still post in a similar fashion, cling to their world views and personality traits, engage in the same style of discussion, and either integrate/learn or fail to integrate/learn.

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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: Arden]
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Poll's fixed now BTW.


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
Would you count Wittgenstein as a logical positivist?



I didn't even know it was possible to be logical AND positive.
I should really look into this.


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: MushroomTrip]
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If you want to talk about skewing the results, it'd be about deciding to ask again if the forum should be renamed after not very many people thought as much last time, and asking it after the name-change poll has received like fifty votes.... You've already effectively split the "Psychology" votes to give simply Philosophy an unfair advantage....  How sloppy and fucked-up do we want to make this whole process? :lol: Its a good thing the name doesn't really matter... Do you work for Diebold or something?

Also, I accidentally voted "no" on that poll, so one more in favor of the name-change than it is says. Wouldn't it be funny if ten people vote to change it, and eleven not to, while one single name change option from the first poll receives thirty votes? :smirk:


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
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I wonder how simply "Philosophy" would be doing if we would have ran it against both Philosophy and Psychology, as well as "Philosophy and Logic". This poll is skewed, I tell you, skewed!

The only decent thing to do is combine the weight of the Psychology votes together and then run-them off.


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
If you want to talk about skewing the results, it'd be about deciding to ask again if the forum should be renamed after not very many people thought as much last time, and asking it after the name-change poll has received like fifty votes.... You've already effectively split the "Psychology" votes to give simply Philosophy an unfair advantage....  How sloppy and fucked-up do we want to make this whole process? :lol: Its a good thing the name doesn't really matter... Do you work for Diebold or something?

Also, I accidentally voted "no" on that poll, so one more in favor of the name-change than it is says. Wouldn't it be funny if ten people vote to change it, and eleven not to, while one single name change option from the first poll receives thirty votes? :smirk:



Stop whining, you sound desperate. :wink:


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
Stop whining, you sound desperate. :wink:



Not as desperate as your mom sounded. :wink:


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
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Doubtful, my mother passed away nearly twenty years ago.  Thanks for the painful reminder.

And Happy Mother's day.


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
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I don't see why it should be changed.  I understand that this is supposed to be a debate forum, and that some people like to share their personal, spiritual experiences.  I think the two go hand in hand.  You have someone share an experience, and then someone brings up a rational argument to try to make the other person think.  Philosophy and Spirituality brings up some awesome discussion, and I really don't see what all the fuss is about.  Just let it be.


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: Jethro Tull]
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How about 'Philosophies'?

Lest no intellectual and non-technological discipline not be included, (as if it is not already or ever has been).



~Monk

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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said: This poll is skewed, I tell you, skewed!



How so?  All the people who previously supported Philosophy will vote for that option in this poll if they choose, all the people who previously supported Philosophy & Psychology will do the same, and the only difference is that most people who supported the addition of Sociology to P&P get the chance to vote for that if they like, which seemed like a valid poll option to throw in given its support in the last thread.  Hardly an unfair advantage...

Do you have any arguments for PSP over P by the way?  It makes sense to me that if we're going to subsume Spirituality under philosophizing (which I think is the best description of every poster here) then we ought to do the same for Psychology and even Sociology.  It's a no-nonsense name for the win.

Also it's pretty clear that a fair proportion of P&S does feel like changing the name; the additional poll to reflect whether we should change is there more for sake of completion than for any rigid quantification of the consensus to determine what shall or shall not happen.


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
How so?  All the people who previously supported Philosophy will vote for that option in this poll if they choose, all the people who previously supported Philosophy & Psychology will do the same, and the only difference is that most people who supported the addition of Sociology to P&P get the chance to vote for that if they like, which seemed like a valid poll option to throw in given its support in the last thread.  Hardly an unfair advantage...



It's monkey wrench in the engine, is what it is. :grin: This logic needs a little bit of tuning, IMO.
Throwing in PSP, which was never voted on and was specifically known to have attracted the attention of a handful of voters for Philosophy and Psychology, in the open discussion thread, effectively splits the vote that Philosophy and Psychology received a not so slim majority over all other options with.

It is mathematics, pure and simple. If it was warranted to give the late-entry Philosophy, Sociology, and Psychology a chance, which it obviously was, considering that it is still leading this poll, it would have been to run it off against Philosophy and Psychology, since it was known to take its votes. You've got to give people due representation for their interests in the title, or else you're just mismanaging the situation and not giving them what they want. :shrug:


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Do you have any arguments for PSP over P by the way?  It makes sense to me that if we're going to subsume Spirituality under philosophizing (which I think is the best description of every poster here) then we ought to do the same for Psychology and even Sociology.  It's a no-nonsense name for the win.



Why not expound a bit on key aspects of the discussion within the Philosophy branch? Its the truth about the forum, and there's room there for it to represent that fact, hopefully displaying to others that are more interested of that to look in that direction for those types of discussions. Sometimes you just have to advertise a little better. :wink:


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
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fireworks_god said:
It is mathematics, pure and simple. If it was warranted to give the late-entry Philosophy, Sociology, and Psychology a chance, which it obviously was, considering that it is still leading this poll, it would have been to run it off against Philosophy and Psychology, since it was known to take its votes. You've got to give people due representation for their interests in the title, or else you're just mismanaging the situation and not giving them what they want. :shrug:



Well, apologies for potentially skewing any results, but I figured that it would be better to give the people what they wanted in the form of a better alternative to Philosophy & Psychology in the form of Philosophy, Sociology, & Psychology, and the poll results do seem to convey that most people prefer that option to the original.  :shrug:

supernovasky said:
However, one subfield of psychology is discussed here much more often than psychology as a whole, and the subfield I am referring to is rich and diverse... I am talking about cognition. Perhaps a very apt name for this forum could be Philosophy, Sociology, and Cognition.



Shoulda nominated this in one of the many previous threads that were devoted to exploring potential names for this forum!


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
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I agree that its a good idea to give people their choices and that the choice is a great one, simply that throwing it into the poll that was to be between the top two options skews things and risks knocking the Psychology ticket as a whole out of the running. Of course, if it had been in the original poll, alongside P&P, then perhaps no title with Psychology would have made it to the final poll, so oh well. :grin:

Anyways, when do the polls close? Has the administration said that they will change the name to the choice with the most votes?


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
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The administration has been notified of the poll results; now all we gotta do is wait for their response.


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
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Great Philosophy and Psychobabble FTW.  :thumbup:


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Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deranger]
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deranger said:
OrgoneConclusion said:
Sociopaths and Psychotics :thumbup:



:yesnod:



ahahahah i think this would be a killer title if intelligent debate still continued and it didnt become chaotic


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