Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Cannabis Seeds Zamnesia
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |  [ show all ]
Final Name Change Poll! (we swear)
    #10308103 -

Alright, so after much debate, hassling, and technical wrangling, the final name change poll has come.  (As a moderator I have made an executive decision to include Philosophy, Sociology, and Psychology as another alternative.)  This five-day poll (provided the Administration accepts) will help dub P&S's latest incarnation.

Edit: please also vote here as to whether the forum name should indeed be changed (the conservative option versus the liberal).
What should be the new name of this forum?
Users may choose only one (55 total votes)
Philosophy
-
22 40%
Philosophy & Psychology
-
7 13%
Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
-
26 47%
Votes accepted from 05/08/09 01:17 PM until 05/13/09 01:17 PM
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
    #10308263 -

Sociopaths and Psychotics :thumbup:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
    #10308280 -

Hey, is it going to be the case that the combined votes for both Psychology options will be weighed together against simply Philosophy, and then the tallies for both Psychology options being used to determine which one of them will take the Psychology title if both receive more votes than simply Philosophy?

If so, then you should probably edit your first post to state as much, so no one will be confused on that matter, and if not, then you shouldn't have sworn that this would be the last poll, because you would be effectively splitting the votes of the option that clearly received the most votes last time to allow Philosophy to be selected, and you'd have to make another poll to correct that. :wink:


--------------------
:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
    #10308291 -

As is, all three options have equal weight.  It seemed like most people were in favor of PSP over P&P anyways, so I don't see any potential problems.


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10308325 -

OrgoneConclusion said:
Sociopaths and Psychotics :thumbup:


:yesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
    #10308337 -

fireworks_god said:
Hey, is it going to be the case that the combined votes for both Psychology options will be weighed together against simply Philosophy, and then the tallies for both Psychology options being used to determine which one of them will take the Psychology title if both receive more votes than simply Philosophy?

If so, then you should probably edit your first post to state as much, so no one will be confused on that matter, and if not, then you shouldn't have sworn that this would be the last poll, because you would be effectively splitting the votes of the option that clearly received the most votes last time to allow Philosophy to be selected, and you'd have to make another poll to correct that. :wink:


:whocares:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deranger]
    #10308581 -

I'm new here, but what is wrong with the current title Philosophy & Spirituality?


--------------------
LAGM v.2.024 Grow log

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #10308595 -

cyb3rtr0n said:
I'm new here, but what is wrong with the current title Philosophy & Spirituality?


There seems to be a consensus that P&S is not very hospitable towards Spirituality in the sense in which most spiritual believers use it; this forum is debate-oriented and any proposed beliefs are expected to be rationally substantiated and defended against any critical attack: something that many people with faith as their foundation for belief do not like or want.

Debate over the existence/non-existence of God and other such matters will of course always be tolerated here, but spiritual believers who prefer discussion over debate will find that Mysticism & Paranormal can suit all their needs.  :mushroom2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deranger]
    #10308603 -

deranger said:
:whocares:




--------------------
:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: fireworks_god]
    #10308638 -

Ahh, thanks for the explanation deCypher. I wasn't looking at spirituality as religion specific, but more zen like.  But I do understand anothers right to have faith.


--------------------
LAGM v.2.024 Grow log

Edited by cyb3rtr0n (05/08/09 03:13 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #10309169 -

Psychology belongs more in M&P really.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: xFrockx]
    #10309171 -

xFrockx said:
Psychology belongs more in M&P really.


Research psychology is backed up by scientific studies.  Mysticism and paranormal events by definition are not.


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
    #10309182 -

Quote:
Mysticism and paranormal events are backed by mental disturbance.



--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10309494 -


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: deCypher]
    #10309642 -

I can run a test to see how many times a cow winks but that doesn't give me insight into its "cognitive" processes.  Psychology is pseudoscience.  Large parts of it aren't falsifiable because they aren't even legitimately backed theory to begin with.  Its a lot of labels and scare tactics, just peddling excuses. Please don't tarnish this forum with such bullshit or I will personally make sure that no psychology threads make it more than two feet off the ground before I start pulling the denial of free will card.  Nothing like on topic and relevant thread derailment...

Oh and by the way, if Psych is science then it belongs in the SCIENCE FORUM.  I rest my case.

Edited by xFrockx (05/08/09 06:58 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: xFrockx]
    #10309659 -

xFrockx said:
I can run a test to see how many times a cow winks but that doesn't give me insight into its "cognitive" processes.


I see; I can only perform behavioral tests on other humans but that also doesn't give me insight into their "cognitive" processes.  In fact, my conjecture that you possess a mind isn't even falsifiable.  Are you saying you rely upon pseudoscience when you assume that other people have consciousnesses like your own?

C'mon, can it with the behavioralist bullshit.  Psychology certainly has valuable things to offer even if some theories aren't falsifiable: parts of it are scientific whereas others remain as useful explanatory models into subjective cognition.


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: xFrockx]
    #10309665 -

I just wanted to see the header page change, I really didn't think the title should/would really effect anything. :ohwell:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: Middleman]
    #10309683 -

"I see; I can only perform behavioral tests on other humans but that also doesn't give me insight into their "cognitive" processes.  In fact, my conjecture that you possess a mind isn't even falsifiable.  Are you saying you rely upon pseudoscience when you assume that other people have consciousnesses like your own?

C'mon, can it with the behavioralist bullshit.  Psychology certainly has valuable things to offer even if some theories aren't falsifiable: parts of it are scientific whereas others remain as useful explanatory models into subjective cognition. "

Look, if it is science then we have a science forum for it.  If it is not science then we have a mysticism forum.  Psychology is to philosophy as paganism is to biology.  Frameworks shameworks, its all just labels.  If you believe them, then you think within the frameworks.  In itself, psychology is less a tool than a piece of mental clothing, and one not sutable for philosophical debate.

Think about the consequences of making it here before you just lump it together because it has to do with thought.  Will we chat about the biological model of psych?  Diathesis stress?  Freudian theory?  Behaviorism?  Those are MASSIVELY different animals, and will clutter this forum needlessly.  Any part of psych worth talking about can be talked about in philosophical terms.  Otherwise, science forum.

We even have a mental well being forum.  Again, WHY HERE?  You're just lumping shit together because it feels right, but its just pointless.

Edited by xFrockx (05/08/09 07:13 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: xFrockx]
    #10309697 -

xFrockx said:
Look, if it is science then we have a science forum for it.  If it is not science then we have a mysticism forum.  Psychology is to philosophy as paganism is to biology.  Frameworks shameworks, its all just labels.  If you believe them, then you think within the frameworks.  In itself, psychology is less a tool than a piece of mental clothing, and one not sutable for philosophical debate.


The beauty of psychology is that it investigates both mind and behavior, meaning that it may be investigated both through scientific means (a posteriori theories) and through philosophical means (a priori theories).  I see no better place to discuss psychology in the sense of Jung and Freud than alongsides philosophy, and with mention of research studies to either disprove or support these theories; after all, the mind-body problem and other philosophical problems with consciousness relate heavily to cognitive psychology and other psychological disciplines.

Hell, if you want each discipline to get its own forum that badly then you should certainly vote for changing this forum's title from Philosophy & Spirituality.


--------------------
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Final Name Change Poll! (we swear) [Re: xFrockx]
    #10309699 -

xFrockx said:
Please don't tarnish this forum with such bullshit or I will personally make sure that no psychology threads make it more than two feet off the ground before I start pulling the denial of free will card.


Ohs nos :paranoid:
And those interested in having a rational, pleasant discussion will ignore your posts. :tardhi:


--------------------
:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |  [ show all ]

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Splitting S&P - Poll
( 1 2 3 4 ... 15 16 )		 MAIA 18,376 302 10/24/05 07:25 PM
by daimyo
* Does psychology attempt to explain the consciousness? Ayrios 1,840 11 09/23/04 01:02 AM
by DigitalDuality
* Psychology and Dogma in General as Bunk
( 1 2 all )		 Kalix 5,600 37 06/16/05 10:54 AM
by WanderingStudent
* poll- are you a male or female?
( 1 2 all )		 strangebrew 3,045 31 11/26/03 09:18 PM
by SanityIsOvrRated
* Finally doing it
( 1 2 all )		 Moonshoe 1,642 26 07/09/04 01:05 AM
by Fliquid
* Roots of Psychological Conflict
( 1 2 3 all )		 SkorpivoMusterion 5,852 53 12/14/04 04:41 PM
by deff
* Free will poll.
( 1 2 3 all )		 MJF 3,433 47 09/26/05 11:54 AM
by Khaunshar
* Swearing on the Bible Swami 1,010 9 08/19/02 05:48 PM
by Anonymous

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
55 topic views. 1 members, 5 guests and 11 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.07 seconds spending 0.045 seconds on 24 queries.