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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Asante]
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I can picture that.

Caveman #1: Ugh, me cold.
Caveman #2: Ugh, me cold too.

Caveman #1: This make us warm.
Caveman #2: No means No.

Caveman #1: Ugh, Ugh, Ugh.
Caveman #2: It Hurts

Caveman #1: Me done, mm warm.
Caveman #2: I said No.

Caveman #1: Your fault, you wear short Loincloth.
Caveman #2: Runs away and cries.

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
Just to let you know they stuff they teach you in school and the day you continue to celebrate is completely incorrect.



How old are you? I'm pretty sure anyone who is, say, at least 100 years old or younger already knows this.


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Ego Death said:
It was certainly discovered by the East before Columbus as they found highly accurate maps which were dated before Columbus.

If you go back even further there have been Egyptians Murial's found that show Maize and pineapple plants that were Native to only America.  Suggesting America was discovered even earlier.

Just to let you know they stuff they teach you in school and the day you continue to celebrate is completely incorrect.

Dated 1418

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world and all its continents were discovered by a Chinese admiral named Zheng He, whose fleets roamed the oceans between 1405 and 1435. His exploits, which are well documented in Chinese historical records, were written about in a book which appeared in China around 1418 called �The Marvellous Visions of the Star Raft�.






seems what we learn on the shroomery may also be incorrect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson

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Leif Ericson (Old Norse: Leifr Eir?son)[1] (c. 970 ? c. 1020) was a Norse[2] explorer who was probably the first European to land in North America (excluding Greenland).[3] According to the Sagas of Icelanders, he established a Norse settlement at Vinland, which has been tentatively identified with the L'Anse aux Meadows Norse site on the northern tip of the island of Newfoundland in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.





ya leif Ericson FTW! i thought this was common knowledge..who knows though? =O


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
The Native Americans discovered America. On Foot. Over the Bering Strait during an ice age.





I'd love to believe that but what about the people that were
here long before 15k years ago, the oldest dating from the
bearing straight was about 14k years old but there's evidence of
civilization existing as far back as 50k years ago in north
america, indian legends talk about a race of giants that were
wiped out about 10k years ago when the new comers banded
together to eliminate the threat, about 4 years ago hanky
provided a link to remains that were dated to 65k-90k years ago
and DNA that related them as  being australian aborigines

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/the-oldest-human-site-known-in-the-americas/

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Edited by AnonymousRabbit (05/19/22 12:51 AM)

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: No Agenda]
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I can picture that.

Caveman #1: Ugh, me cold.
Caveman #2: Ugh, me cold too.

Caveman #1: This make us warm.
Caveman #2: No means No.

Caveman #1: Ugh, Ugh, Ugh.
Caveman #2: It Hurts

Caveman #1: Me done, mm warm.
Caveman #2: I said No.

Caveman #1: Your fault, you wear short Loincloth.
Caveman #2: Runs away and cries.




:rotfl:


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: jewunit]
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British fishermen probably fished the shores of Canada for decades before Columbus.



That seems like a ridiculously long way just for some fish.


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Quote:
I'd love to believe that but what about the people that were
here long before 15k years ago, the oldest dating from the
bearing straight was about 14k years old but there's evidence of
civilization existing as far back as 50k years ago in north
america, indian legends talk about a race of giants that were
wiped out about 10k years ago when the new comers banded
together to eliminate the threat, about 4 years ago hanky
provided a link to remains that were dated to 65k-90k years ago
and DNA that related them as  being australian aborigines

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/the-oldest-human-site-known-in-the-americas/




Wow thats amazing, thanks for posting that!


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
If you go back even further there have been Egyptians Murial's found that show Maize and pineapple plants that were Native to only America.  Suggesting America was discovered even earlier.






about that corn, the one that noticed it, Gunnar Thompson,  mentions that the seed was propagated throughout the Mediterranean region, the bible also mentions the egyptians had corn in genesis 42, now if we're to believe that columbus had brought this crop to the new world how did the corn in the Mediterranean region just vanish without a trace

http://www.atlanticconference.org/AtlanticConference-2/GunnarPress/gunnarpress-1.htm

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:
I'd love to believe that but what about the people that were
here long before 15k years ago, the oldest dating from the
bearing straight was about 14k years old but there's evidence of
civilization existing as far back as 50k years ago in north
america, indian legends talk about a race of giants that were
wiped out about 10k years ago when the new comers banded
together to eliminate the threat, about 4 years ago hanky
provided a link to remains that were dated to 65k-90k years ago
and DNA that related them as  being australian aborigines

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/the-oldest-human-site-known-in-the-americas/




Wow thats amazing, thanks for posting that!




there's a dig near the savannah river that they're dating to
around 50k BC currently, it's known as the Topper Dig site,
placing humans on the east coast of the US 30k years before
the clovis site or the bearing sites

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/11/17/carolina.dig/index.html

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
How old are you? I'm pretty sure anyone who is, say, at least 100 years old or younger already knows this.



Older than you. :epenis:

To be honest I never studied much about America but then I'm from the UK, how America was founded is not a specific part of of our education.  I just chucked it out there to make conversation and its worked.  I enjoyed reading every ones responses in this thread.

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Ego Death]
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Columbus did not discover America



:thehandisontheface:


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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
To be honest I never studied much about America but then I'm from the UK, how America was founded is not a specific part of of our education. 



LOL. 

the UK would rather focus on its successful colonial ventures.

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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Big_Whoop]
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Big_Whoop said:
Quote:
Columbus did not discover America



:thehandisontheface:




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Re: Columbus did not discover America [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
Wiccan_Seeker said:
The Native Americans discovered America. On Foot. Over the Bering Strait during an ice age.



Under Debate!

They may, in fact, have discovered it by sailing across the Pacific to South America.  If the Monte Verde dates are correct, that is.  Hard to imagine how someone enters the continent near Alaska and the earliest relics of their culture are found in far southern South America.

But yes, it certainly wasn't Colombus.



Also, primitive weapon technology (stone spearheads) in America was unrelated to weapons used in Asia.  It was almost identical to that found in France, however.
They think that people from Asia may have come here, and people from Europe also, they traded technology, then during years and years of dust storms during an ice-age most people on the Northern continent were wiped out.  Skulls over 8000 years old bear little resemblance in structure to other American Indian populations, and appear more Caucasoid in structure.


Derp, nevermind.  Just saw that someone else pointed this out.


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