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DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) Pic
    #1018552 - 11/03/02 01:36 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I PCed 3 of my brown rice grain jars for 1 hour. I guess I didnt put enough water in because the glass within the jars almost cracked and the grain on the bottom of the jars were all burnt. Was this because there wasnt enough water? Are they still good to be use? The rice in the middle and top areas of the jar are still damp, I know because I sacrified a jar and checked the wetness.

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1018564 - 11/03/02 01:39 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't use it, just start over, its not like you are losing anything by starting over, well besides burnt rice and a couple of hours of preparation. Better luck next time.

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1018580 - 11/03/02 01:43 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds fried on the bottom. Not enough water in the PC & to hot. Start over. Why you using BR instead of rye or bird seed?
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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1018595 - 11/03/02 01:45 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Your not letting the jars sit on the bottom of the PC are you? If so put a piece of cloth between the base of the jars and the bottom of the pot.


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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: ItsAllGood]
    #1018637 - 11/03/02 01:57 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

The grain on the sides of the jar seems to get darker in color, which seems to mean they are getting dry, is this normal?

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1018668 - 11/03/02 02:09 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Having never done whole brown rice I did a little search and found this thread...
Brown Rice Tek Thread

I was wondering did you cook your rice pre PC'ing it ? - just trying to eastblish the water content of your jars. ?


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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: ItsAllGood]
    #1018674 - 11/03/02 02:10 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

yes i did

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1018707 - 11/03/02 02:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Yah, I just finished PCing 3 jars, The grain, the ones close to the outside od the jar seem to bedrier than before, but the grain in the middle seems fluffy still. Normal?

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1018711 - 11/03/02 02:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Have another go... try reducing PC time to 45 mins rather than 1 hour (after all you cooked it first and that would kill must stuff).

Other than that I don't know.  Lets us know how you get on.  Don't give up dude  :grin: 


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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1019350 - 11/03/02 08:31 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

This is what my grain looks like after it was PCed, does it look ok?


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    #1019368 - 11/03/02 08:43 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) [Re: matts]
    #1019385 - 11/03/02 08:50 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

yes. I think it is rather dry. I lost 3 jars with first PC, and I poured one out to check the wetness. Its was damp. The darker brown rice on the sides of the jar was the ones I talked about on my above posts, they are dried out kernels. But besides those, the grain is damp. I took the pic right after the jar came out of the PC, that is y there is some condensation on the top of the jar.

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1019392 - 11/03/02 08:54 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I don't understand why you are using whole brown rice, wouldn't it be easier to just you brf in a cake? I mean you are getting the same nutrients, I guess it may be easier to spawn poo with, but you could just as easily grate up a PF cake and get practically the same thing as you are doing.


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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) Pic [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1019411 - 11/03/02 09:00 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Just precook the rice. When the recipe calls for 2 and a 1/4 cups water for 1 cup rice, just use 2 cups.

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) Pic [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1019431 - 11/03/02 09:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I did precook the rice with an asian rice cooker.

Skidd, Im using this tek because ive only heard positive outcomes. PF tek utilizes vermiculate which is not a nutritional substrate material. With whole grain brown rice you give myc 100% nutrition ---> bigger mushy.

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) Pic [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1019440 - 11/03/02 09:08 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I thought about that after I asked the question. Right on and Good Luck with it, hope it works out better than it has been for you so far.


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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) Pic [Re: Skikid16]
    #1019481 - 11/03/02 09:25 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. So what does everyone thing about my substrate? Maybe ill just innoculate 1 jar and see if it grows in the next couple of days, if so ill innoculate the rest.

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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) Pic [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1019698 - 11/03/02 10:57 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like a good idea, but how many jars do you have? If you only have like 2 or 3, why not just inoc. them all with 1 cc. They may not show signs of growth for a week or more, if you wait that long to inoculate the rest, contams might get them before your spores do. Just a thought.


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Re: DAMMIT! Burnt Grain / (Drier Grain = normal?) Pic [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1019944 - 11/04/02 01:33 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

IMO the rice should be drier. The grains should stand apart more- there should be more air space in the jar. If you don't mind possibly wasting a syringe. The jars are cheaper then the spores if you're buying them.

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