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InvisibleSixTango
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Winter supply
    #1006956 - 10/30/02 05:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Last windrow completed, air dried to get the moisture content down & now trying to figure out how to get 16 tons ( :smirk:WTF was I thinking - except thats what it took to get it cost effective) of perfected custom made mushroom compost safe, dry & stored in a shed. Off to the bag supplier of a feed store to see just how big of bags they have. Grow log to follow -- after it's stored away safe) 6T :tongue:
 

EDIT --I realize now it was a mistake to have made this post, or at least the amount of what was made. I would delete it. But that would leave the rest of the thread hanging & make me look like an ass-hole . Please do not PM me, requesting a bag of this compost. I am not set up as a vendor, nor wish to be one.
SORRY....... :crazy:...... 6T


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OfflineDobie
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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1006981 - 10/30/02 05:28 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

dude if ya got that much compost hook it up man!!!!


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1007240 - 10/30/02 07:13 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

All Hail the new Shroom King!!

16 tons, lets see that should produce about 15,642,127 shrooms. :cool:



 


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Re: Winter supply [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1007263 - 10/30/02 07:19 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

i honestly dont think you could fit 16 tons of that shit in my apartment and dude hook me up if ya close ill drive :laugh:


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1007392 - 10/30/02 08:00 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

16 tons???? are you f serious??? :blush: 


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Re: Winter supply [Re: comario2]
    #1007465 - 10/30/02 08:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

OMFG! I'll be up with a dump truck in 2 days.


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Re: Winter supply [Re: Cow Shit Collector]
    #1007678 - 10/30/02 09:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

How much denero will we be giving out per lb. Surely 16 tons is too much work for you to dish it out free :smirk:
Well 6T, at least we know you'll be a cool vendor.


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1007802 - 10/30/02 10:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

the drying is going to be a bitch. Wouldn't you have to pasturize it to stop the composting process? You did get the materials for free right? cause cost would be a bitch otherwise. I could probably get a ton or two from the stables around my house. Would probably hove too high of shit content because they are boarding stables. I used to work at them shoveling shit, but that was long before this hobby.


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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Winter supply [Re: Dobie]
    #1008098 - 10/30/02 11:46 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Everybody in the OMC is always looking for the perfect bulk substrate, at an affordable price. I did the same thing for months on end. I combed numerous composting & hummus making business's, only to find their products were not 100% suitable (lacking 1 thing or another).

I inquired to several commercial mushroom operations, trying to find one that was willing to sell, suitable fresh mushroom compost. Only to find, they use what they make & have no interest in selling it, until it is spent.

Okay, what next when looking for the perfect substrate? Well, there is software that calculates the content & nutrient value of differing material you might use. So, you gather that up & do some calculations. Once you think you have the perfect recipe. The next step is to that find premium raw material. Which is no small task in it's self.

Then find someone, who has one of these;

who for a FEE would perform the windrowing for you, on their site.

Then purchase & gather up the raw material & get it there. In this instance, premium quality wheat straw, cow & horse manure, vegetable & fruit produce refuse & spent micro/brewery grain were the primary bulk organic ingredients. None of which were found near each other & all of which had to purchased, loaded & trucked to the composting site.

Then you have it made, monitored & tested, to insure it's quality & that it contains no pathogens. Then, have it wide windrowed, to get the moisture content down, to stabilize it for storage & trammel screened to get its finished size & texture correct.Then have it loaded & transported to the storage site, bag it & store it where it will remain dry & uncontaminated.

If you count up all the time, labor, material, freight, windrowing & associated cost. This was no quick or inexpensive endeavor.

Regardless of all that. If one were to mail order vend the product, you would have advertising, accounting & handling the logistic costs of getting orders out.

But, forget all that for a moment.

The BIG KINK is 1st class mailing costs; which are: West coast to east coast per 10 pound package USPS airmail rate. Zones 1 & 2 = $6.28 -- Zone 3 = $7.57 -- Zone 4 = $9.10 -- Zone 5 = $11.01 -- Zone 6 = $12.50  Zone 7 = $14.17 -- Zone 8 = $18.14.

You getting the picture? I doubt enough people would be willing to pay XXX for the product, plus XXX postage. Considering that fact, the market is to limited to make vending this product worthwhile, or profitable, considering all involved.

This type mushroom compost could be produced much cheaper. Resulting in significant product cost reductions. But to that would require a SIGNIFICANT investment in land required (properly zoned), necessary facilities, the equipment, materials, management & labor.

So, as of yet no "vending" is in sight. I did this to see if it could be done. A few people, head shops & potential kit makers committed to buy a large percentage of it. If it turned out as I expected. Which it did.  So, this go around. I may cover the cost. What next, who knows?

6T :tongue:

 


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1008296 - 10/31/02 12:35 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

no but youve said before your in the northwest im intersted in pickin some up are ya close to vancouver pm me if ya want


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1008666 - 10/31/02 02:22 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

  Hell I'll buy some, but I ain't paying for no airmail prices.  *lol*  If you want to part with some my monkey would probably buy anywhere between 2XX and 3XX lbs. 
    If it is as good as your research might indicate it'll be a sure winner. 
        peace
PM me if I can help you and and you can help me out.  :laugh: 


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1011690 - 11/01/02 12:29 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

hey six tango, just want to say what fine compost you have, and i think its really cool you made it yourself. im really looking forward to your future log


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1014855 - 11/02/02 03:20 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting ideas there sir.

Joshua


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Re: Winter supply [Re: Joshua]
    #1016871 - 11/02/02 11:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Those postage prices, where did you get them? Is that suposed to be through USPS? Last I new USPS charged a flat rate by weight and the zone it was being sent to didn't matter. But I haven't worked for them in over a year so maybe things have changed *shrug*


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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Winter supply [Re: CoolMojo]
    #1016965 - 11/03/02 12:08 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I got them from the USPS site. Your post made me wonder if I was mistaken :confused:.

So, I double checked @

http://pe.usps.gov/cpim/ftp/notices/Not123/Not123.pdf

Hell, this rate is even higher.
   
USPS Parcel Post 10 pound package (non-machineable)

Zones 1 & 2....  $9.03

Zone        3.....  $10.32

Zone        4....  $11.85

Zone        5....  $13.76

Zone        6....  $15.25

Zone        7....  $16.92

Zone        8....  $20.89

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This is the UPS 3 day rate + $1.10 if delivered to a private residencal address

Zone 1 & 2 ....$8.00

Zone      3 ....$9.30

Zone      4 ...$10.70

Zone      5 ...$12.30

Zone      6 ...$15.50

Zone      7 ...$16.90

Zone      8 ...$18.30
6T :tongue:


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Re: Winter supply [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1017243 - 11/03/02 01:56 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, I'd shit 15 consecutive bricks


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1017434 - 11/03/02 02:50 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

> trying to figure out how to get 16 tons

Dude, I hope you got the distribution part figured out! :crazy:

An often overlooked, but very important, part of the equation... :smirk:


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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Winter supply [Re: Dilauded]
    #1017454 - 11/03/02 02:57 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

>>>"I'd shit 15 consecutive bricks"<<<

Na, don't. That would hurt & they don't make good substrate. :smirk:

6T :tongue: 


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Re: Winter supply [Re: SixTango]
    #1017598 - 11/03/02 04:14 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

lol damn ive been savin up all this time too


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