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Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt
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While I was out today, I found a couple fly agaric families poking out of the ground:



Even though the one in the front is still a bit young, I decided to pick it, since it's in a high taffic area and was apt to get trampled if I left it where it was.



Here's the other group I found, you can see they're much lighter in color:



The tallest one in particular is very pale! I left the smaller ones to continue growing, but harvested the larger two. To my surprise, they were actually growing from fused bases:



I took a break mid-way through writing this to pick up some stuff for dinner, and on the way spotted a couple large specimens in a patch that I haven't seen fruiting in my past outings. I didn't have my camera with me, but I took a pic when I got home (with a quarter on the larger one to give perspective:



I was worried that the season might be ending, but it seems like the frost from the other night actually encouraged the mycelia to begin fruiting some more, I saw at least a dozen baby muscaria just starting to push their heads aboveground. On the whole, it seems like a good season; I've got more muscaria in my fridge than I know what to do with! Guess it's time to dry another bunch of them to keep me supplied through the spring.



I've been pretty surprised by the variety of colors present in these local muscaria patches. Some of the patches produce mushrooms whose skin is bright red when they first emerge, and fade to orange with time and sunlight (as is typical of var. flavivolvata). Other patches produce mushrooms that are orange-skinned as soon as they emerge, though their color also fades somewhat with exposure to rain and sunlight. I wonder if this is within the normal variation of var. flavivolvata, or if there are two PNW flavivolvata varieties?


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Edited by Entropymancer (11/19/08 07:55 PM)

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Entropymancer]
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Nice picts.I have to go out again this weekend. Its Getting cold here to but i think there are some more out there.

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: kergan]
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Thanks.

Oh, I forgot to include it in that post, but I also found one very young specimen, where the universal veil is still almost completely intact. You can make out the yellowish tint that's characteristic of var. flavivolvata:



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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Entropymancer]
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I know somebody that needs prints of Amanitas if you PM me I'll tell you who.


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: mushroomhunter10]
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I know somebody that needs prints of Amanitas



What are they going to do with the print?

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Entropymancer]
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Nice find, nice ID.  :thumbup:

One of the distinguishing characteristics of this mushroom are the yellow warts that fade with age.  I noticed the first two mushrooms have white warts.  I'm not sure what that means.

Tulloss follows Singer with the basionym, Amanita muscaria subsp. flavivolvata , whereas Kuo follows Kirk with the same name you gave it.  I'm not sure what the difference is between a variation and a subspecies, perhaps none.


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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in my experience, the yellow develops [or can develop] as a slow bruising reaction anywhere the young tissue is damaged, so it isn't isolated to the breakup of the u-veil. it can be down right prominent.


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: canid]
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Evidently, the first two photos have yellow warts that have faded to white.  That's only a guess though.  I have never picked or seen these variation.


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: canid]
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The yellow ones are a yet to be named variation of muscaria.

All the others are flavivolvata.

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Entropymancer]
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those look yummy man


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: 2859558484]
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Some picts of the yellow pins.






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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:
I know somebody that needs prints of Amanitas



What are they going to do with the print?


Probably outdoor cultivation??? Not really sure. Just assuming.


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: mushroomhunter10]
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that would be extremely difficult, given that these are micorrhizae.


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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I know somebody that needs prints of Amanitas



What are they going to do with the print?

:rofl2:

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: mushroomhunter10]
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The name Amanita muscaria var. formasa is noman ambiguum.

Maybe we should vote on a nomen provisorium for our beloved PNW yellow.?
I vote for Amanita muscaria var. rockefelleri :thumbup:

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: HerbBaker]
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warriorsoul said:
The yellow ones are a yet to be named variation of muscaria.

All the others are flavivolvata.


I'm beginning to wonder whether "PNW yellow" is something of a misnomer, or whether there's three varieties up here.

The picture I've seen of the PNW yellow from Christian Raetsch's Encyclopedia of Psychoative plants is very very distinctly yellow. Like this color yellow. Not the slightest hint of orange to it. He also says it's supposed to be quite rare.

Meanwhile there seem to be two other different sorts of muscaria, one with the typical coloring of var. flavivolvata, and the other with a coloring more reminiscent of var. persicina or var. guessowii. While these latter are definitely yellow-orange, it seems like a stretch to really call them yellow. Even that really pale specimen I posted seems more like a faded peach-color than yellow.  Both of these sorts of fly agarics are quite common in this area (and the guessowii-like ones are apparently present at least as far south as Eugene and as far north as Seattle).


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Entropymancer]
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I think if you spread the mycelium around its natural habitat it would take off and grow within two seasons.

Sure it's difficult, but I'm sure it can be accomplished.


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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: Entropymancer]
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I'm not familiar with Raetsch's pics but
Dna testing has only shown two species there..

The young specimen you posted a pic of is not indicative of flavivolvata. All solid yellow muscaria represent the PNW yellow variation.

Flavivolvata can be orange or red fading to pale yellowish with a darker center in age or fading evenly throughout the cap.

Seeing the young specimen makes it easier to differentiate between the two species.

The pnw yellow should also have white veil remnants not yellowish when very young.

Kergan's pics look like persicina, if he's in the PNW than the range of persicina likely extends much further than thought.
But even then its still a variation of flavivolvata.

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: HerbBaker]
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This thread is awesome, i love to see pictures of all the muscaria variations/sub-species




Edited by weiliiiiiii (11/19/08 11:25 PM)

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Re: Pictures from an Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata hunt [Re: weiliiiiiii]
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I live down south.they are persicina.

http://mushroomobserver.org/13506?search_seq=190759

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