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First Trip: Liberty Caps
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Hello there.

I am kinda new here but have been lurking this forum for a while now trying to find any info that could help me on my trip. Well, I just got my hands on 3 dried grams of Liberty Caps and I am not sure how to proceed. This means that I am not sure how much I should take, 1 gram, 2 gram or the whole thing and where to do it. From what I have read it seems that 1-2 dried grams is what is recommended for first timers, right? However, I have also read that Liberty Caps are stronger then Cubensis, which is the type of mushroom I have seen come up more in this forum overall.

So, I am wondering how much I should take. how I should take it (e.g 1 gram first and if it goes well, take a little more?) and where should I take it.

But for there to be an answer to that, I would need to talk more a bit about myself, right?

Some background

Well, I am a twenty year old guy and the purpose of the trip would be for personal growth and  get a better understanding of the world around me. I have always been interested in psychedelics ever since I discovered about the subject, which I guess has been about about 3 years now. I have read a lot about them and listened to different kind of recordings that deal with the subject, these coming from Timothy Leary, Terence Mckenna and I guess some Bill Hicks too..hehe. I have to say though, that the band Tool is what made get into all of this. They got me into Hicks, which in turn made me research psychedelics a bit, then I got into Mckenna and Leary.

Anyhow, over time I also got interested in meditation, lucid dreams and to an extent, O.B.E. I have practiced these things to some degree, meditation the most, although I guess it is all connected in some way. I have to say though, that I have seen some things whenever I have tried either of these things. I think its called close eyed visuals and whenever I spent a long time trying to achieve either of these things, I would see a cloud-like thingy that swirls around my view, the color is most of the time green and sometimes turns into blue or purple. Very weird but later I read about people having these exact same things. It was pretty amazing the first few times. Sometimes I also manage to see a very trippy kaleidoscope kind of thing, but its so faint and for such little time that I can barely make it out. The most I could figure out was that there were small triangles besides each other, perhaps forming a big triangle. I dont know.

I was pretty fascinated by this, the fact that its possible to have visuals without taking psychedelics, even if its nothing compared to when you actually take one. I have read a meditation book or two that mention things like this. Also, having read the book by Rick Strassman that deals with DMT and talks about the theory of it being produced by the human body in small doses, it all sort of made sense to me.

However, my interest in all of these things kind of stopped for a while over the last year due to distractions and I have not paid as much attention to it as before, which means I havent read about it or practiced meditation for quite a while now, so I have kind of lost touch with all of this.

But, someone I know managed to get me some Liberty Caps a while ago and now I have tried to read as much as I can about the psychedelic experience. The thing is, I have only two options when it comes to the setting and I am not quite sure what to pick, not to mention how much to take.

The options are these:

My home

My whole trip would have to be on my room and probably at night, due to parents. I would not have a reliable tripsitter available, but could set up a video conference with a friend over the laptop who would act as one. So we would have our cams and mics on. I am not sure how well this would work though. Due to this, I am thinking of only taking 1 gram.

Nature

Theres a very nearby forest which I sometimes take a walk around whenever I need some fresh air. I usually listen to music when taking a walk and I also used to meditate sometimes far into the forest alone. But like I said, it has been a while since i tried meditating. However, today I decided to take a long walk, find a good spot and see how well I could meditate. I have to say it felt great. I really forgot how great this feels and I almost felt like I should trip right there and then...lol. The sound of the wind and singing of birds were very relaxing. It was good.

I am actually leaning towards this setting and I am thinking of scouting for a good spot tomorrow. I got a little plan right now, which would take about 2 days I guess. I would spend the day prior to the trip on the forest and trying to meditate as long as I can. This would be in preparation of the trip and it would be a good exercise. The next day I would pack some fruits and water and leave early in the morning, head to whatever spot I settled on and I would try and meditate and whenever I feel the time is right, I would stop for a bit, take the mushrooms and eat them and then keep meditating.

If I chose this, I think I MIGHT take 2 grams or more due to the setting. I think I might feel better out in nature and I would not have any worries of parents bothering me, even if they dont knock the door at all, just their footsteps around the house might make it all go wrong.

Still...I would be alone, so I dont know. So yeah, I got 3 dried grams of Liberty Caps and I need help to decide how much and where I should take it.

Sorry if this became too long...please help me decide, hopefully it all goes great! :laugh:

Edited by Dertalix (10/16/08 01:16 PM)

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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: Dertalix]
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I'd recommend at least 1.5g, probably at least 2. I thought liberty caps were equivalent in potency to cubes, but I could be wrong.

Definitely go with the forest, you won't regret it. And I think as long as you're in a good state of mind going into it then you'll be able to handle even 3g no problem.

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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: krypto2000]
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I find liberty caps to be more potent than cubes. To get to the same place as I do with 4g caps I'll need 5g cubes, roughly.

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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: Abnormal]
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take 1g and see how comfortable you are with that. then when you take 2g a few days later on you know what to expect.


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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: Bridgeburner]
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Hmm. To be honest, its really tempting to try 1 gram right now, I am looking at the thing. I could do 1 gram here in my room and do the 2 grams another day in the forest. But then, I want the first time to be really special and awesome and maybe that would be done with 2 grams or more.

However, it would be nice to get a feel of it before taking a larger dose I guess. Arghh...decisions. I will have to give it more thought.

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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: Dertalix]
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if i was was you, i'd do 1 gram to start with, give it say 1 hour and see how you feel, also your better off tripping with close friends with no parents about. have fun but be resonsible. i reckon eating 2 grams straight away might be a bad idea if you dont know what to expect.

have fun!

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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: theGREBBLE]
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Could any of you please tell me how much difference there is between 1 and 2 dried grams of caps? I guess it depends on each person but...well, I guess its worth a try? I am having trouble choosing what to do now.

:shocked:

Guess I will just take 1 gram tomorrow at home to get a feel for it, then next week or so I might try 2 grams at the forest and try to meditate while under the power of the mushroom.

Edited by Dertalix (10/16/08 07:06 PM)

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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: Dertalix]
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Liberty Caps are highly-potent. Probably top 5 in the world (averages).
They also don't lose a lot of potency over time because they contain almost zero psilocin, only psilocybin. It also seems to have the highest Baeocystin content as well. Not exactly sure what the effects of Baeocystin are. I tried to find out in a poll but only 3 people voted...

You'll be fine, just don't do too much your first time. It can seem quite "strange" at first.

Good Luck!


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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: Dertalix]
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My first time I did 2g.  I wish I had done 5g.  5g was the second time.  Terrence McKenna says the mushroom is very kind to the novice.

When personal growth is the name of the game, a strong does is always positive.  You don't get bad trips, only learning experiences.  Smoke or sing if things get to difficult.

When you're taking'em just to have fun and party, eating anything that comes by, that's when they smack you in the brain.

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Re: First Trip: Liberty Caps [Re: shymanta]
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Just have 1g, Semilanceata are a LOT more powerful than cubes.

2g for a first timer is overkill IMO

Edited by chaos05 (10/17/08 08:27 AM)

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