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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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The right is the not the same right I am talking about. I mean the far, extreme right. Liberatarians. Those are the right I speak of. I have never seen a case of a liberatarian trying to legislate morals.

Republicans while geared a little more towards the ideas I hold dear, as you have said, done little to put this country where I would have it be. Still they have given me more of what I want than the Dems.




Politics and morals are strolling hand and hand, they are inseparable as the tails side of a coin is to a heads side of a coin.


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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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> Uneducated, sure. Childish, at times. Immature, I am a toys r us kid.

I know better, which is why I was giving you a hard time about it.

> The right is the not the same right I am talking about.

Doh!  I read "the right" to mean the cheney-rummy-style neo-con.  Our disagreement makes a lot more sense now.  :grin:

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Seuss]
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please excuse my spelling errors.

Libertarians is i believe spelled libertarian.


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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Phred]
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Phred said:
a three week "flood the zone" coverage of the event by the MSM was more than just a little over the top.

Phred





West Palm Beach Congressman Tim Mahoney (D-FL), whose predecessor resigned in the wake of a sex scandal, agreed to a $121,000 payment to a former mistress who worked on his staff and was threatening to sue him, according to current and former members of his staff who have been briefed on the settlement, which involved Mahoney and his campaign committee.

Mahoney, who is married, also promised the woman, Patricia Allen, a $50,000 a year job for two years at the agency that handles his campaign advertising, the staffers said.



The affair between Congressman Tim Mahoney and Patricia Allen began, according to current and former staffers, in 2006 when Mahoney was campaigning for Congress against Foley, promising "a world that is safer, more moral."

Florida congressman fires Mistress tape.

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5998929

"You are fired!" "You work for MY PLEASURE!!!" You are fired!



Will this get as much press as the Mark Foley scandal?:smirk:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: lonestar2004]
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Probably not considering that the transgressions are not even close to the same severity.

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Probably not considering that the transgressions are not even close to the same severity.





IMO Sending dirty Gay emails to a 16 year old (adult) is not as bad as firing an employee that is paid to be your Mistress...


Whats up Redstorm, do you hate homosexuals?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

Edited by lonestar2004 (10/14/08 11:01 AM)

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: lonestar2004]
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when did 16yo kids become adults... other than on their 18th birthday

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Right, (age of consent)

Washington, D.C. law defines the age of consent as 16.

I think that's why Foley was never charged with anything.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: lonestar2004]
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age of majority determines when someone is an adult, 16 is still
a minor, age of consent can vary from state to state and can
include other factors like the age of the other party, in some
locals it's illegal for someone over the age of majority to have
sex with someone under that age regardless of the age of consent

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
age of majority determines when someone is an adult, 16 is still
a minor, age of consent can vary from state to state and can
include other factors like the age of the other party, in some
locals it's illegal for someone over the age of majority to have
sex with someone under that age regardless of the age of consent




Are you claiming that Foley had gay sex with a sixteen year old?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Pris, Even with 24/7 news coverage about the Foley sex scandal in the end Foley did not break any laws.



I guess its better to be caught with a dead woman than a live boy.....


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Barack Obama

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: lonestar2004]
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I'm claiming that in some localities it may be illegal to have gay sex
on some it may be illegal for someone over the age of majority to have sex with someone under the age of majority
in some localities it may be legal to molest your house pets

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: lonestar2004]
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Quote:
IMO Sending dirty Gay emails to a 16 year old (adult) is not as bad as firing an employee that is paid to be your Mistress...




Sexual harassment of a minor (still a minor even if over the age of consent) who was a subordinate to Foley is worse than what is happening here. This is still very bad, and an immense abuse of authority, but not to the extent that the Foley thing was.

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Whats up Redstorm, do you hate homosexuals?



I'm sure that despite your childishness above, you know that is not true. In fact, I'm not even sure where you get that idea. The difference is not the sexual orientation, but the age of the victim. Just because something is legal does not make it ethical.

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Prisoner#1]
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and I'm claiming that Mark Foley sending dirty gay emails was not illegal.

and I'm also claiming that promising to put a mistress on your campaign staff and paying her hush money is a lot worse and might be illegal!

and finally where is the Media?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:


Sexual harassment of a minor who was a subordinate to Foley is worse 





was Foley charged with sexual harassment?

and do you have a link to prove that he was a subordinate to Foley? (during the dirty emails?)

You sound just like the MSM! (lots of accusations with no proof!)


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
and finally where is the Media?



In the tank for anything with a D before it's name.  As in "DUH".

Foley did absolutely nothing illegal at all.  I'm not sure this asshole did either but he seems to be coming a lot closer than Foley did.  Aside from all that this just continues to highlight two things.
1.  The media are Dem whores
2.  Nobody ever demands any standard of decent behavior from a Democrat.  They know it is pointless.


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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: zappaisgod]
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Just to clarify, I think paying off a mistress with campaign funds is almost certainly illegal.  As in really definitely surely must be illegal.


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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Just to clarify, I think paying off a mistress with campaign funds is almost certainly illegal.  As in really definitely surely must be illegal.




Thank you!


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: lonestar2004]
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Quote:
was Foley charged with sexual harassment?



Just because he was not charged with it does not mean it did not occur.  The page was certainly freaked out enough by his advances that he reported Foley and Foley resigned.

Quote:
and do you have a link to prove that he was a subordinate to Foley? (during the dirty emails?)



I just read a bit and I guess he was a former Congressional Page, which does damper the severity a bit.

I still stand by the fact that this was more of a big deal to the media due to the age factor, the homosexual factor, and the amazing hypocrisy that Foley showed in his actions versus what he preached.

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Re: Democrats created Foley scandal [Re: Redstorm]
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Quote:
Redstorm said:

I still stand by the fact that this was more of a big deal to the media due to the homosexual factor



and FYI homosexuality is not illegal, but foot tapping is!


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

Edited by lonestar2004 (10/14/08 12:24 PM)

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