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Re: Boost up potency!
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Yeah...ive been really sceptical since neither Dr. Lindeman nor tweedy continued to post messages in this thread after it got going..
That seemed/seems kinda strange to me..
Like *get the rumor going and then back off and watch the outcome*...

YEEEEES..
Just got 15g of niiiiiiiiiiiice weed..(Super Skunk).
.Hehe...
Think ill have to roll myself a blunt right now...

And sparks..
Im not taking it too searously...because a shroom is still a shrooms with or without the cayenne pepper.... :smile:


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Re: Boost up potency!
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yo, i'm still here. If you have any questions, let me know. I posted a little more detail on the experiment on ADM. Hip made a good point, it's not nessasary to make them more potent, you just need to take a few more. We will find out how things go as people start to report in. I hope all goes well. Anyway, ask away.

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Re: Boost up potency!
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If this works, may I make a suggestion, use some habanaro(sp?) peper powder. That is THE hottest peper, and would probably do the same as the cayene(if it works) but make it MUCH stronger.

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Re: Boost up potency!
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slight correction, habs are the hottest pepper available commercially. Hotter varieties are found in nature, but have less economic value due to yield, size and impractical amounts of heat.
I got some from Guatemallan rain-forrest this sommer that beat habbaneros hands down. Maybe these'll turn my cubes into super azures!

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-From a registered Mad Scientist

"From a certain point of view"
-Jedi Master Obiwan Kenobi (also a Mad Scientist tm)



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PM me with any cultivation questions.

I just looked at my profile and realized I had a website at one point in time on geocities, it's not there anymore and I have no idea what I had on it. Anybody remember my website from several years aga? PM if so please.

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Re: Boost up potency!
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This is complete bullshit people !
Dont even try it !!!
I tried it and i have not seen any difference in potency !
As for the change in colour it is very minor and is probably because of some sort of organic pigment in the peppers !
As for the experiment, i ended up contaminating 4 out of 6 jars, and the rest were well, just the same,
Whoever the hell you are Tweedy & Dr. Lindeman ... go find some other board to screw up will ya !
Man,i was taken, but i learnt not to trust everything that is said on this board !
Lets try to keep things serious shall we, it makes more sense to try things first and talk about them later, rather than shoot your mouth off, and have to put your foot in later !
DAMN !!!!

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Maverick shroomed@rediffmail.com
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Psychedelia in India....
We arent there yet but ,
We are getting there !!!


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Re: Boost up potency!
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This is complete bullshit people !
Dont even try it !!!
I tried it and i have not seen any difference in potency !
As for the change in colour it is very minor and is probably because of some sort of organic pigment in the peppers !
As for the experiment, i ended up contaminating 4 out of 6 jars, and the rest were well, just the same,
Whoever the hell you are Tweedy & Dr. Lindeman ... go find some other board to screw up will ya !
Man,i was taken, but i learnt not to trust everything that is said on this board !
Lets try to keep things serious shall we, it makes more sense to try things first and talk about them later, rather than shoot your mouth off, and have to put your foot in later !
DAMN !!!!

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Maverick shroomed@rediffmail.com
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Psychedelia in India....
We arent there yet but ,
We are getting there !!!


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Re: Boost up potency!
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Maverick: Sorry you feel that way. I tried this experiment twice, and it seemed to work. I privately e-mailed tweedy and a few others to test this theory. It was released before we could verify the results, sorry for any inconvience guys. I thank you for trying this and posting the results. I was attempting to boost the potency, but you are correct: nothing has been proven yet. Many people have blamed this on placebo effect, good possibility. No hard feelings I hope, I honestly just love to experiment and try new things. Like the supercritical fluid extractor, i'll be darned, it does work! As for cayenne, well we will see. I received a report that some grow, other jars abort, no idea why some did, and some did not. Anyway, this was an experiment that needed to be verified, not for newbies just starting out. Thanks again Maverick for your opinion, sorry for any challenges.
Sincerly, doc charlie

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Re: Boost up potency!
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Maverick- wasn't the experiment to spray the pepper on your already grown shrooms, not in jars, excuse me if I misinterpreted your message, but did 6 of your cakes get infected, or 6 of your jars, please be specific.

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Re: Boost up potency!
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Very interesting thread. I just read the whole thing and what mkes the most sense is the increased absorption due by the dilated blood vessels in your mouth (or stomach) after ingesting the irritating pepper. The Syrian Rue works on a similar principle but has it's own additional psychotropic effects. I don't know enough mycology to comment on the defensive response to the environmental irritant, but IF this works for Cactus (mescaline) it might work for Mushrooms but they are very different organisms.

There may be something to this and all research is worthwhile, so any of you who are attempting somewhat controlled experiments with this tek, please keep posting your findings.

When my next crop starts to fruit, I know I'll try it. Something else to try while you're at it to test the absorption theory: swish some cayenne water around in your mouth for as long as you can stand it, then chew the shrooms up real well (or pulverize them) and keep them in your mouth until they disappear. Do this on an empty stomach as well. For those of use who live in areas where shrooms are rare or do not have abundant indoor harvests (yet) we have to get the most mileage from them.

Next step: take some Rue 30 minutes before all this and you've got Ayahuasca Caliente!

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Re: Boost up potency!
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Well there probably is some truth to the increased absorbtion due to dilation of the blood vessels or something like that. Cayenne peppers have been used in Ayahuasca brews for a very long time, maybe they knew something we didn't. But if you REALLY want to BOOST UP POTENCY, check out this thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/ubbnoncgi/Forum4/HTML/000384.html

It actually provides some scientific proof through links and articles. What is funny is that people are willing to jump all over something that sounds as stupid as spraying shrooms with cayenne peppers to boost potency but very few people are willing to even try any of the things in the link above and there are alot more options. Dr. Charles Lindeman, tweedy, maverick, and everyone else who thought about trying cayenne peppers, if you really want experiment, experiment this. I currently do not grow shrooms, so I cannot do these experiments myself. I'm hoping to get some feedback from someone who is capable of doing so.

-PsiliPharm


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Re: Boost up potency!
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Seems like a very interesting thread we have going. Does not seem to be going anywhere. Whos to say that psychological affects of a 'more potent' shroom can't increase the trip? ONly way this thing will ever be proven is in a lab.

On another more serious note, I saw a lot of suggestions of use of MAOI uses like syrian rue. This is an advisory to anyone who is even considering using syrian rue. RESEARCH the use and effects of syrian rue before you attempt to use it. Without respect, the use of Syrian Rue can lead potentially to fatal experiences. If you are looking for 'kickass visuals man' go take some acid. Shrooms aren't for the restless druggie looking for a new high. :smile:


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Re: Boost up potency!
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Syrian rue doesn't work by increasing absorption. It works by blocking the enzyme monoamine oxidase which breaks down psilocin (among other things).

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Re: Boost up potency!
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Correct on the mechanism of the Rue. My hasty mistake: I should have not said "similar". I concur, people should not just "mix" chemicals without understanding what's going on. I've taken the Syrian Rue (crude extraction done myself) followed by shrooms in a "prayer and fasting" weekend and the effects were quite profound.

Be smart, be safe.


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Re: Boost up potency!
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Correct on the mechanism of the Rue. My hasty mistake: I should have not said "similar". I concur, people should not just "mix" chemicals without understanding what's going on. I've taken the Syrian Rue (crude extraction done myself) followed by shrooms in a "prayer and fasting" weekend and the effects were quite profound.

Be smart, be safe.


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