Home | Community | Message Board


Zamnesia.com
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Seeds Store Buy CBD, Cannabis Seeds, Compare CBD   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Vermiculite

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
OfflineMsPacMan
Stranger

Registered: 10/05/02
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Florida, USA
Last seen: 10 years, 3 months
Mycelium Potency
    #1062952 - 11/18/02 04:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Looking at the Psilocybin Production Extract Guide

Here

People have debated the potency of mycelium through their flushes. I was wondering if anyone Actually knew if the potency of mycelium was comparable to the potency of carpophores (fruits)
If so, This process COULD work. But then the debate still stands about the potency comparison of the two.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineshroomologist
member
Registered: 09/29/02
Posts: 161
Loc: SouthEastern US
Last seen: 11 years, 11 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1063147 - 11/18/02 05:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thats been discussed here and on other boards. No one has actually seen good results out of it. The amount you would have to produce would have to be so astronimically high, that it wouldnt't be worth the effort.

just grow fruits.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1063304 - 11/18/02 06:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

anyone too impatient to wait for shrooms has issues. eating mycellum is a waste.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: ]
    #1063380 - 11/18/02 06:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

you know, the mycelium is still there after the mushrooms grow from cakes.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblemycofile
Pooh-Bah
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/19/99
Posts: 2,336
Loc: Uranus
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: ]
    #1063447 - 11/18/02 06:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

There is also the problem of potency varrying at different ages of the mycelium. Exhaustive studies would need to be done to determine when exactly peak potency of mycelium is. Some guy name something/zen/something posted a lot of details he said he worked out. Search for it. If you are interested.

I recently saw something I thought was interesting. A friend had a quart of wheat grain that had been forgotten about. It sat for about 2 months. The jar was full of mycelium piss and generally nasty lookin. I said it was toast, and worthless. Friend didn't listen and used it to do a Grain to grain transfer. When he broke it up, it stained into a dark blue mush, absolutely no white at all. I said, damn, see it's worthless. Well, the jar actually recovered fine and the 2nd generation grew out quickly, but the point is that the 2 month old mycelium was definitely more potent than fresh mycelium. But that timetable may bear no resemblence to a liquid culture. And what parameters are really at play there? Does it have to do with excessive nutrients, lack of nutrients, simple age of mycelium, rate of growth etc.

I say for now, far too many variables for the average home cultivator to consider. If somebody were retired and devoted a year or two to do the experiments and work out the paramaters, it'd be a great method. Until then, why bother?


--------------------
"From a certain point of view"
-Jedi Master Obi Wan Kenobi

PM me with any cultivation questions.

I just looked at my profile and realized I had a website at one point in time on geocities, it's not there anymore and I have no idea what I had on it. Anybody remember my website from several years aga? PM if so please.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: ]
    #1063507 - 11/18/02 07:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I would just throw the cake away. old mycellum smells musty and may have bacteria. besides if you innoculate new jars every week, youll trip weekly


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleCow Shit Collector
Patty Poacher

Registered: 02/15/01
Posts: 1,959
Loc: Random Field
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: ]
    #1063516 - 11/18/02 07:24 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

If somebody were retired and devoted a year or two to do the experiments and work out the paramaters, it'd be a great method



I'm working out my millionaire scheme.  When I'm done i'll post a tek on that and i'll start the abovementioned research  :smile:


--------------------
_______________________________________
CSC


Life's a garden, Dig it!
~Joe Dirt

Off Topic Website


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinerhizo
herb eater

Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 598
Loc: Asia
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1065130 - 11/19/02 04:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

My cakes seem to bruise faster after they've had a flush. So I would say post flush myc is more potent, but I don't know. Anyway, it'd be nice if there was an easy and clean method for getting the goods from spent substrate, but now it just seems like too much hassle for a small yield.


--------------------
An optimist is never pleasantly surprised.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleCow Shit Collector
Patty Poacher

Registered: 02/15/01
Posts: 1,959
Loc: Random Field
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: rhizo]
    #1068659 - 11/20/02 04:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This experiment is underway.
The potency of 3rd flush mycelium extract.


--------------------
_______________________________________
CSC


Life's a garden, Dig it!
~Joe Dirt

Off Topic Website


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMsPacMan
Stranger

Registered: 10/05/02
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Florida, USA
Last seen: 10 years, 3 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: ]
    #1068663 - 11/20/02 04:46 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

have you ever tried old mycelium shrooms44??? eat an old cake. im telling you. you'll trip for days.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehappygrins
addict

Registered: 12/30/01
Posts: 588
Loc: Shroomery
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: ]
    #1069231 - 11/20/02 11:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)


((Psssst..)) Just remember, If the trip is too intense you have to eat another cake to bring you down.  :crazy:





Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleCow Shit Collector
Patty Poacher

Registered: 02/15/01
Posts: 1,959
Loc: Random Field
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: happygrins]
    #1069504 - 11/20/02 01:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

along with an maoi


--------------------
_______________________________________
CSC


Life's a garden, Dig it!
~Joe Dirt

Off Topic Website


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinebravar
a.k.a John Doe

Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 84
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 14 years, 6 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1070453 - 11/20/02 04:45 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

eat an old cake. im telling you. you'll trip for days.




Your telling me you actually have ate an old cake? and tripped?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMsPacMan
Stranger

Registered: 10/05/02
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Florida, USA
Last seen: 10 years, 3 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: bravar]
    #1070996 - 11/20/02 06:41 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

bravar- are you related to LSA?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDrJoseph
Wendy shot thegun.

Registered: 10/03/01
Posts: 211
Loc: intermolecular travel
Last seen: 14 years, 3 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1071451 - 11/20/02 09:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

eating old cakes... especially verm brf... just seem like eating a piece of sponge-ass. Fruits are much more impressive, porbably taste better, and are alot more fun to grow than just white mold. I think extensive research should be done on the potency of actual fruits grown on different substrates, different casing layers, and of different strains. This information would be much more useful to people who actually are gonna make an effort at this hobby.. and not just stop half way without finishing the job. Plus, why eat a spent cake when you can just grow mushrooms or smoke some bud. Unless you got some kinda fixation where u gotta get buzzed off mushrooms every night, im sure you can hold off before you can actually have a full trip off actual shrooms.
-the doc


--------------------
"cus it aint gonna be like you think it is - thats the one thing you can take to the bank." - Terance mckenna


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinedets
higher mind andeducation
Registered: 11/12/02
Posts: 91
Last seen: 12 years, 4 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: DrJoseph]
    #1072775 - 11/21/02 05:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

hahaha. i can't believe he actually fell for that one. wow.


--------------------
"patriotism is the virtue of the vicious"


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleServator
Viral Agent

Registered: 08/30/02
Posts: 4,893
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: dets]
    #1076082 - 11/22/02 09:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It's why every time I start feeling down on myself, I just come here and take a look at some of these people....
:smirk:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMsPacMan
Stranger

Registered: 10/05/02
Posts: 1,054
Loc: Florida, USA
Last seen: 10 years, 3 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: Servator]
    #1076113 - 11/22/02 09:31 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

it really does make you appreciate yourself a lot more.  :smirk:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinetrainboy55
Stranger
Registered: 05/22/02
Posts: 22
Last seen: 12 years, 4 months
Re: Mycelium Potency [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1097875 - 11/30/02 06:03 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

a friend tried a methanol extraction from mycelium but the resulting paste had no psychedelic effect...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Shop: Original Seeds Store Buy CBD, Cannabis Seeds, Compare CBD   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Vermiculite

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Mycelium Potency safeway 1,536 7 10/02/03 04:40 PM
by NTTG_Hunter
* Re: Boost up potency!
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Anonymous 7,365 73 12/19/99 11:27 PM
by TriGuy
* Spawn Ratios-What matters more: mycelium or more nutrients ? ThE_JafF 3,648 18 07/25/03 06:47 PM
by mycofile
* Increasing potency using natural DMT defcheck 2,679 10 03/05/06 08:20 PM
by Glasshopper
* A theory on potency
( 1 2 3 all )
SoopaX 6,088 42 06/17/05 11:32 AM
by kjb1891
* Eating Azure mycelium: The results.
( 1 2 all )
Baby_Hitler 3,613 32 08/16/03 01:26 AM
by DanKnugget
* Increasing potency through species sequencing... LynxRufus 2,140 11 11/20/05 02:10 AM
by Zen Peddler
* Increasing potency with tryptamines hawksapprentice 1,599 19 06/13/03 06:43 PM
by buckwheat

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: RogerRabbit, bodhisatta
1,785 topic views. 0 members, 3 guests and 2 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Kratom Eye
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.03 seconds spending 0.003 seconds on 16 queries.