Ferris said:

the bill is already all but passed at this point

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deadmeat986 said:

Dude 2005 ago mccain was on a bill to stop short selling that lead to this.

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But Obama’s relationship with the twins runs still deeper. The two Fannie CEOs who did the most to corrupt the company, Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, have close ties with Obama. Raines is one of Obama’s ranking economic advisors. Jim Johnson was actually in charge of vetting Obama’s potential running mates until Obama responded to public pressure and threw Johnson under the bus where he now resides comfortably with Tony Rezko.

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zappaisgod said:
until Obama responded to public pressure and threw Johnson under the bus where he now resides comfortably with Tony Rezko.

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zappaisgod said:

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But Obama’s relationship with the twins runs still deeper. The two Fannie CEOs who did the most to corrupt the company, Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, have close ties with Obama. Raines is one of Obama’s ranking economic advisors. Jim Johnson was actually in charge of vetting Obama’s potential running mates until Obama responded to public pressure and threw Johnson under the bus where he now resides comfortably with Tony Rezko.

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/fannie_freddie_and_barry.asp

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The two Fannie CEOs who did the most to corrupt the company, Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson

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layzdapipe said:

Heres a pretty good video on John Mccains ads lies.

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Prisoner#1 said:

layzdapipe said:

Heres a pretty good video on John Mccains ads lies.

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check into all those 'lies', you'll see that there's a great deal of truth to them

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It most likely wasnt mccain who made the ads anyways. Its pretty much what the video says. Obamas words being distorted to make one thing seem like another.


For example,
Watch this clip.

He says "They dont pose a serious threat to us like the soviet union once posed a threat to us, yet we were willing to talk to them."

He didnt say they dont pose a threat period as in the mccain ad. He said they dont pose a threat that is as big as what the soviet union once did, yet we still talked to them.


Now the mccain ad states, he says and means that  iran is not a threat.
That is not what he said, if you look at it in the context he used it in. 
Now he may have said pretty much those exact words "They dont pose a threat".
Its all about the context he used it in, its not just that phrase but what is surrounding it.
If you cut out that phrase alone it means something entirely different than the whole itself.

"They dont pose a serious threat to us like the soviet union posed a threat to us, yet we were willing to talk to them."

"They dont pose a threat."

See the difference?

This is just an example of one of the ways they are distorting the information.

And no im not pro obama, and im not pro mccain, I just watch some political videos from time to time, and im not the person to talk politics with. But I would like to have some information on the people who are running for the president (hence the reason i watch these vids sometimes). The only thing is seperating the bullshit from the good information, which is getting harder and harder each day. Also, il add in on another one of his speeches, he called iran a "grave threat".


Anyways with all that being said, Obama is willing to try to talk to iran (which in my opinion probably wouldn't work anyways, but its probably worth a shot atleast). Mccain from what I understand is only willing to talk to leaders of allied countries. I feel like ive gotten myself into some political arguement, that im not ready for.