sam420 said:

I know nothing of either candidate but if I were American I sure as hell wouldn't vote for someone with a creationist VP.

Sure science is all well and good if Palin need life-saving surgery, or when she uses her phone or computer, but facts such as relativity, the speed of light, evolution, dinosaur fossils, these are all FALSE because the Universe is less than 10,000 years old and was created in 6 days.

What a fruitloop!  She literally has to be completely fucking INSANE or record-breakingly stupid.  It's mind-shattering how somebody with these 'beliefs' can make it so far in your country as to be running for VICE PRESIDENT over MILLIONS of people.  If it weren't so fucking tragic I'd laugh.

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leftysurprise said:

honestly i dont want either to win, but out of the two i would rather obama. but im still voting for ron paul if he runs.

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blissedout said:

That's a wasted vote, imo. He's a good candidate, but make a real difference by voting for someone that might actually win and is the better of the 2.

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Quote:

"I believe that there is some possibility that quote 'medical marijuana' could spread into other areas and that the definition of medical could expand rather dramatically. You've seen that in other cases." (July 14, 2007, town hall meeting in New Hampshire)




"I don't think marijuana is healthy, I don't think that it is good for people, and I also, there is a large body of medical opinion that says there is plenty of other medications that are more effective and better and less damaging to one's health to use to relieve pain." (July 14, 2007, town hall meeting in New Hampshire)




"I think there's other ways to relieve pain ... I do not believe in legalizing it because I think there's other ways of relieving pain and applying medical help than that, and that’s my position." (August 9, 2007, town hall meeting in Merrimack, New Hampshire)




"I believe that marijuana is a gateway drug. That is my view and that's the view of the federal drug czar and other experts, although that is also a debatable question. I think that there is much more effective ways of relieving pain and suffering than the use of marijuana, and so therefore I view it as something that I do not support. That's just my considered opinion, I'd be glad to receive additional information." (August 11, 2007, house party in Milton, New Hampshire)




"No town hall meeting in New Hampshire is complete without some young man who has been sent here to talk to me about medical marijuana ... The fact is I do not approve of the medical use of marijuana, I never have and I never will, and you all keep coming to the town hall meetings. I'm always glad to see you, it helps with the attendance." (September 29, 2007, house party in Exeter, New Hampshire)




"Every medical expert I know of, including the AMA, says that there are much more effective and much better treatments for pain than medical marijuana ... I still would not support medical marijuana because I don't think that the preponderance of medical opinion in America agrees ... that it's the most effective way of treating pain." (September 30, 2007, town hall meeting in Derry, New Hampshire)




"The law is the law, and I do not believe it's going to be changed, and it's not going to be changed by me." (October 23, 2007, town hall meeting in Exeter, New Hampshire)




"The will of the people, my friend, is that medical marijuana is not something that the quote 'people' want. Certain people feel strongly about this issue, and they show up at most town hall meetings, obviously feel very strongly about it. There is no convincing evidence ... there’s evidence, but no convincing evidence to me that medical marijuana relief of pain and suffering cannot be accomplished by prescriptions from doctors." (Nov. 14, 2007, McCain blogger conference call)




"There may be times when the will of the people, for example Iraq, the will of the people, unfortunately is that we withdraw from Iraq immediately or very very soon. I don't share that view of the will of the people. And I think the will of the people was that we get out of Korea when Harry Truman was president of the United States, but then he decided to do what he thought was best for the will of the country. Now, I don't compare this issue with Iraq or Korea, but, look, I'll be glad to continue this discussion, and read the stuff about it, but I am not changing my position on quote 'medical marijuana,' okay?" (Nov. 14, 2007, McCain blogger conference call, said upon being reminded that the will of the people in California was to make medical marijuana legal)

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leftysurprise said:

mccain quotes on medical marijuana:

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leftysurprise said:

here is obamas stance on it.

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Quote:

During a debate in the Democratic presidential primaries campaign, MSNBC moderator Tim Russert, the claymation journalist, asked the candidates who opposed
decriminalization of marijuana to raise their hands.

Barack Obama hesitantly raised his hand halfway before quickly lowering it again. However, in January 2004, when Obama was running for the Senate, he told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession. "I think the war on drugs has been a failure, and I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws," he said during a debate at Northwestern University. "But I'm not somebody who believes in legalization of marijuana."

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Prisoner#1 said:

leftysurprise said:

mccain quotes on medical marijuana:

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that's McCain, not Palin, Ron Paul was eyeing her for the VP
slot in his campaign, why do you think McCain snatched her up

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Prisoner#1 said:

leftysurprise said:

here is obamas stance on it.

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that's just one of many stances on medical marijuana
it changes every day to pander to the group he's talking to,
just like every other part of his platform

Quote:

During a debate in the Democratic presidential primaries campaign, MSNBC moderator Tim Russert, the claymation journalist, asked the candidates who opposed
decriminalization of marijuana to raise their hands.

Barack Obama hesitantly raised his hand halfway before quickly lowering it again. However, in January 2004, when Obama was running for the Senate, he told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession. "I think the war on drugs has been a failure, and I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws," he said during a debate at Northwestern University. "But I'm not somebody who believes in legalization of marijuana."

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http://prorev.com/2008/02/obamas-many-views-on-marijuana.html

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Prisoner#1 said:

blissedout said:

That's a wasted vote, imo. He's a good candidate, but make a real difference by voting for someone that might actually win and is the better of the 2.

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you waste your vote by giving to to a party whom you dont
suppport, the real objective of voting is to vote your ideals
or the party that mostly aligns with them, in voting 3rd party
this election you could give enough votes to make a difference
in future elections either through party reform or getting
matching campaign funds and equal air time for the 3rd parties

but hey, if you want to piss away your vote, vote McBama

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leftysurprise said:

Prisoner#1 said:

leftysurprise said:

mccain quotes on medical marijuana:

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that's McCain, not Palin, Ron Paul was eyeing her for the VP
slot in his campaign, why do you think McCain snatched her up

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did he really? i didnt know that.  i dont see why......

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leftysurprise said:

well if youve seen or read any other contradictions to that id like to see it myself.

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blissedout said:

That's a wasted vote, imo. He's a good candidate, but make a real difference by voting for someone that might actually win and is the better of the 2.

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leftysurprise said:

well if youve seen or read any other contradictions to that id like to see it myself.

and that just sounds like he may have misunderstood the question?  he did drop his hand didnt he?  i mean that link you just provided only strengthens what he said in the video i posted. i think he was just a little confused by it, he does not want to decriminalize it for the average person, he is however all for regulated medical use.

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blissedout said:

Like I said, my opinion doesn't really matter anyway, because I can't vote. I should have just stayed out of this discussion altogether

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