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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: snapperhead]
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Azures contain up to 1.78% psilocybin, .38% psilocin, and .35 baeocystin.

Libs contain .2%-2.37% psilocybin, and .21 baeocystin.

Cyans contain up to .30%-1.69% psilocybin, .28%-.51% psilocin, and .02%-.03% baeocystin.

Weilii contain up to .61% psilocybin, .27% psilocin, .05% baeocystin, and .32% tryptophan.

With weilii there was only one test done on one collection so its not as accurate as the other two, hopefully more work will be done with this species, i would love to see how potent some of them can be. Also weilii contain tryptophan and that is the only species in the book i have that contains it, i wonder what the effects of it are on the human brain/body when having an experience.

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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: snapperhead]
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My book is correct its all the work done by Gaston guzman, Paul stamets, gartz, reid, smith, and eicker as well as a few other mycologist that specialize in the genus psilocybe.

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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
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There's a lot of data to suggest what you say is wrong.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info9.shtml

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: Echo7]
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he knows that i think he said libs are more potent than cyans


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
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ehtdaedlufetarg said:
he knows that i think he said libs are more potent than cyans


He did say that libs are more potent than cyans.  I've had libs once and cyans many times, and from that experience plus almost everything I've read (except what he just posted) they are significantly more potent.

I realize I probably seem intensely argumentative here, but really I'm just trying to sort this out.  If he's right then he's right, but I've never heard of semis outdoing woodlovers before.


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: Echo7]
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Im just stating what some of the best mycologists in the world have said;)

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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: Echo7]
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EchoEclipse71 said:
There's a lot of data to suggest what you say is wrong.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info9.shtml

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml

I like guzman, paul stamets info...guzman is the best in the world.

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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
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weiliiiiiii said:
Azures and libs are waaaay more potent than cyans, i have the charts in a book.


Lol. Cyans are by far the most potent psychoactive mushroom in the PNW. 1.5g dried = level 5 trip

This means like one or two caps wet, depending on substrate and size of mushroom.

And I can't freaking wait for the season, either. I've found a few lookalikes already but they didnt check out.

Also, whens the right time to look in and around woodchips? I thought cyans are first spotted in like grass at the beginning of their season, then they find their way into wood mulch?

I've tripped off cyans before, and cubensis. IMO, cyans are even more potent than cubes. I heard with libs you need to pick quite a bit more. Same with stunzii and azures..


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Edited by tyler_0_durden (09/05/08 12:27 AM)

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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: tyler_0_durden]
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sad


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: uriahchase]
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i dunno about having to eat alot of azures to trip. i ate about 2 grams of those things and had a level 3-4 trip:eek::eek:. most potent hallucinogenic mushroom in the world.:mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: notorius gib]
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I'll be up in the PNW the middle of October through the end.  :smile:  I might stay up there depending on if I can find a place to rent or a place to stay while looking.  I've got money saved up to move out of this place...


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
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weiliiiiiii said:
Azures contain up to 1.78% psilocybin, .38% psilocin, and .35 baeocystin.

Libs contain .2%-2.37% psilocybin, and .21 baeocystin.

Cyans contain up to .30%-1.69% psilocybin, .28%-.51% psilocin, and .02%-.03% baeocystin.

Weilii contain up to .61% psilocybin, .27% psilocin, .05% baeocystin, and .32% tryptophan.

With weilii there was only one test done on one collection so its not as accurate as the other two, hopefully more work will be done with this species, i would love to see how potent some of them can be. Also weilii contain tryptophan and that is the only species in the book i have that contains it, i wonder what the effects of it are on the human brain/body when having an experience.


Guzman rocks but you have to read the statistics carefully.  Libs are pretty small and the percentage may vary with specimens/populations.  As someone pointed out, you have to pick a lot more libs than Azures to get to the same place.  If it comes down to my gun is bigger than your gun, the PNW knocks Georgia's dick in the dirt.  Way more many actives species and far more mushrooms.  I suppose that upsets some people who have some kind of pride in their region, but really, does it matter?  Coming from an area that has very few actives I appreciate every mushroom I find, even the small non-active ones.


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Senor_Hongos said:
weiliiiiiii said:
Azures contain up to 1.78% psilocybin, .38% psilocin, and .35 baeocystin.

Libs contain .2%-2.37% psilocybin, and .21 baeocystin.

Cyans contain up to .30%-1.69% psilocybin, .28%-.51% psilocin, and .02%-.03% baeocystin.

Weilii contain up to .61% psilocybin, .27% psilocin, .05% baeocystin, and .32% tryptophan.

With weilii there was only one test done on one collection so its not as accurate as the other two, hopefully more work will be done with this species, i would love to see how potent some of them can be. Also weilii contain tryptophan and that is the only species in the book i have that contains it, i wonder what the effects of it are on the human brain/body when having an experience.


Guzman rocks but you have to read the statistics carefully.  Libs are pretty small and the percentage may vary with specimens/populations.  As someone pointed out, you have to pick a lot more libs than Azures to get to the same place.  If it comes down to my gun is bigger than your gun, the PNW knocks Georgia's dick in the dirt.  Way more many actives species and far more mushrooms.  I suppose that upsets some people who have some kind of pride in their region, but really, does it matter?  Coming from an area that has very few actives I appreciate every mushroom I find, even the small non-active ones.


I never said GEORGIA PRIDE cuz i know PNW has way more potent species than GA so to assume i said that is lame:smirk:

But what you said senor goes both ways, all wild mushrooms vary in potency due to exposure to the elements. One patch could send you into space another patch might not.

Being that libs are small doesnt matter, a gram is a gram doesnt matter how many mushrooms it takes to make it a gram only if it weighs correctly.

But still Libs have a higher average percentage of psilocybin.

...And yes senor i love all mushrooms i would have figured you would have known this about me by now.

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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
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weiliiiiiii said:
Im just stating what some of the best mycologists in the world have said;)


yes i believe that info is corect aswell. Azures are insanley potent when fresh. I am not sayin cyans are weak by anymeans they are very strong aswell

Edited by fliped (09/05/08 09:07 AM)

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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
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:lol:

Woah, big fella.  When I said "if" it comes down to Georgia pride and I wasn't meaning you.  You know why. :wink:  I also know you revere all mushrooms.  My comment about myself was referring to something you and I have in common.  I was just giving my reasons for it.

The rest of it is obvious to anyone that knows mushrooms.  Yes, libs, on average, have more bang for the buck.  You just have to pick more of them and they grow singly.  Sometimes a only a single specimen is found.  Azures grow cespitose to gregarious, so finding them usually means finding more.


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Hell yes, I can't wait for this season. Hopefully it's a good one. Pray to the mushroom god's! :mushroomgrow::mushroomgrow::mushroomgrow::slomo:


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: PsilocybinMind]
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Has anyone else  in the NW oregon area noticed the significant temp drop in the past like week or two. i dont ever remember it being quite this dramatic.(imagination??)  plus more mushies seem to pop up every day! not very wet yet though so i always go out at 8 am after the dew has fallen overnight and some sprinklers are on.


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: Echo7]
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I'm new here on the boards, but I'm from the PNW myself. I live close by to a 3000-acre logging area that has plenty of alders everywhere. I've never gone cyan hunting and I'm excited to go check out the logging area. Hopefully my first season hunting these mushrooms is a good one.

Also is there anything else that would be worth remembering to look for when I'm out in an environment like that?


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: Chronick]
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i felt the temp drop. it was overnight too. i woke up and went outside and it was definately not that summer warmth i was feeling two or three weeks ago. that fall cold used to remind  me of school when i was younger. so i hated fall naturally. but since i've become interested in mushrooms, i welcome the fall cold. it gives me butterflies in my tummy:grin:
oh and by the way has anyone found baeos in the portland area?? i've heard rumors some people say they're poppin and others say you gotta be closer to the coast.  no matter what i'll be huntin like a madman this season.


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Re: PNW Cyan season right around the corner! [Re: notorius gib]
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when you're talking dry weight i was always under the impression that Azures were king.

I've only tried Libs and Cubes, and Liberty caps ALWAYS blow the cubes away, they're like double the strength.


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